Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑30 Oct 2023, 05:33
I’m back from my holidays.. give me a week or so..
Will do a complete do over.
Everyone get your top 15 ready.
Gonna collate all the rankings together using a points system, like Dag once did. Then we’ll have a new list.
Won’t be including Ruiz, Ortiz, Wilder and anyone who hasn’t fought in 12 months, so don’t vote them in.
Might be worth waiting until after the Efe/Goodall fight this weekend. No big heavyweight fights planned for a while after that so should give you plenty of time.
joshj909 wrote: ↑05 Nov 2023, 06:42
Efe won comfortably. There is now nothing at all scheduled for any top 35 heavyweights. Nothing relevant scheduled inside the top 100.
joshj909 wrote: ↑05 Nov 2023, 06:42
Efe won comfortably. There is now nothing at all scheduled for any top 35 heavyweights. Nothing relevant scheduled inside the top 100.
We’ll get a new thread sorted in the next week.
Get ur top 15’s ready.
I currently have a top 17 the last three are tough to separate. Also not sure what to do with Chisora, vite him in where he deserves to be or not include him because he's just an old man who will be sitting on a ranking.
joshj909 wrote: ↑05 Nov 2023, 06:42
Efe won comfortably. There is now nothing at all scheduled for any top 35 heavyweights. Nothing relevant scheduled inside the top 100.
We’ll get a new thread sorted in the next week.
Get ur top 15’s ready.
I currently have a top 17 the last three are tough to separate. Also not sure what to do with Chisora, vite him in where he deserves to be or not include him because he's just an old man who will be sitting on a ranking.
I've knocked up a top 20, as similarly I wasn't sure what the plan is with
Ruiz
Wilder
Whyte
Ortiz
@Ruthless-RKO, do you want inactive fighters included or excluded?
I currently have a top 17 the last three are tough to separate. Also not sure what to do with Chisora, vite him in where he deserves to be or not include him because he's just an old man who will be sitting on a ranking.
I've knocked up a top 20, as similarly I wasn't sure what the plan is with
Ruiz
Wilder
Whyte
Ortiz
@Ruthless-RKO, do you want inactive fighters included or excluded?
They have to have fought in the last 12 months to be included and I think there was an agreement to kick Whyte out for the time being.
I currently have a top 17 the last three are tough to separate. Also not sure what to do with Chisora, vite him in where he deserves to be or not include him because he's just an old man who will be sitting on a ranking.
I've knocked up a top 20, as similarly I wasn't sure what the plan is with
Ruiz
Wilder
Whyte
Ortiz
@Ruthless-RKO, do you want inactive fighters included or excluded?
I'm having one hell of a time finding 15 fighters deserving of being rated.
joshj909 wrote: ↑05 Nov 2023, 19:17
They have to have fought in the last 12 months to be included and I think there was an agreement to kick Whyte out for the time being.
Yeah, I remember. But I look at my top 20 and it's an ugly mess.
tiny_acres wrote: ↑05 Nov 2023, 19:18
I'm having one hell of a time finding 15 fighters deserving of being rated.
Finding 15 isn't the hard part for me: I have Usyk at the top, but then I might as well be pulling numbers out of a hat.
It's like how do we even assess a top 15? It's all pockets of fighters who may have fought one or two of their peers but no one else.
Finkel wrote: ↑05 Nov 2023, 23:37
It really is a disgraceful time for heavyweight boxing.
Let's take The Ring top 10. I'm excluding Wilder for inactivity (same as Ruiz Jr. and Ortiz):
well it was already thin to start with, then you take out the inactive guys and also whyte and it's maybe at the lowest point in a good few years in terms of top 15-20 depth
a guy like sanchez is climbing the rankings by default , even with an utter trash career since the efe fight
tbf to chisora, he constantly fights good opposition and either wins or loses credibly enough to get more opportunities. there's actually a lot to like about him amidst a division plagued with inactivity and guys not taking risks
ya it's stale to have a guy like him in the top 15 discussion, but that's not his fault, it's that so few other dudes wanna step up
margaret thatcher wrote: ↑06 Nov 2023, 01:21
tbf to chisora, he constantly fights good opposition and either wins or loses credibly enough to get more opportunities. there's actually a lot to like about him amidst a division plagued with inactivity and guys not taking risks
ya it's stale to have a guy like him in the top 15 discussion, but that's not his fault, it's that so few other dudes wanna step up
I'm leaning towards including him. His win over Pulev is still better than most others in the past year or two. He is also more likely to get an opponent before many of the others so we can drop him if we like. The only issue is if he doesn't get a fight for 6+ months, as we'll end up just voting all the top 15 newcomers above him and others below him will drop down first.
margaret thatcher wrote: ↑06 Nov 2023, 01:21
tbf to chisora, he constantly fights good opposition and either wins or loses credibly enough to get more opportunities. there's actually a lot to like about him amidst a division plagued with inactivity and guys not taking risks
ya it's stale to have a guy like him in the top 15 discussion, but that's not his fault, it's that so few other dudes wanna step up
I'm leaning towards including him. His win over Pulev is still better than most others in the past year or two. He is also more likely to get an opponent before many of the others so we can drop him if we like. The only issue is if he doesn't get a fight for 6+ months, as we'll end up just voting all the top 15 newcomers above him and others below him will drop down first.
I have been saying for a few years that Chisora should be out of the top 15.
But at this point he is borderline top 10.
This division is so sad
margaret thatcher wrote: ↑06 Nov 2023, 01:21
tbf to chisora, he constantly fights good opposition and either wins or loses credibly enough to get more opportunities. there's actually a lot to like about him amidst a division plagued with inactivity and guys not taking risks
ya it's stale to have a guy like him in the top 15 discussion, but that's not his fault, it's that so few other dudes wanna step up
I'm leaning towards including him. His win over Pulev is still better than most others in the past year or two. He is also more likely to get an opponent before many of the others so we can drop him if we like. The only issue is if he doesn't get a fight for 6+ months, as we'll end up just voting all the top 15 newcomers above him and others below him will drop down first.
I have been saying for a few years that Chisora should be out of the top 15.
But at this point he is borderline top 10.
This division is so sad
I'm leaning towards including him. His win over Pulev is still better than most others in the past year or two. He is also more likely to get an opponent before many of the others so we can drop him if we like. The only issue is if he doesn't get a fight for 6+ months, as we'll end up just voting all the top 15 newcomers above him and others below him will drop down first.
I have been saying for a few years that Chisora should be out of the top 15.
But at this point he is borderline top 10.
This division is so sad
I have been saying for a few years that Chisora should be out of the top 15.
But at this point he is borderline top 10.
This division is so sad
Damn Sendo that was me posting
I read his posts and can say that over the last few months he has flip flopped on every issue under the sun
The poor guy doesn't know if he is coming or going
I read his posts and can say that over the last few months he has flip flopped on every issue under the sun
The poor guy doesn't know if he is coming or going
The Tyson Fury of Boxrec forum posters. Arguing with himself half the time.
the last three are tough to separate. Also not sure what to do with Chisora, vite him in where he deserves to be or not include him because he's just an old man who will be sitting on a ranking.
