Tyson Fury vs. Oleksandr Usyk | PPV - May 18, 2024

[Ruthless-RKO]

Looks like Feb 2024

[Ruthless-RKO]

[Redback Rasta]

Looks like Feb 2024

Looking forward to it :TU:

[Redback Rasta]

A friend who likes a bet tells me the betting agencies have Fury favourite to beat Usyk.

[margaret thatcher]

chance for usyk to upset the odds just like he's done before

[SendoTakeshi97]

Makes sense. Tyson Fury is such a strange guy (both in and outside the ring).
He can look like shit when you expect him to deliver and put on a great performance on the next fight when you don't expect anything from him.

There is a good chance this is one of those cases. I can see the comments shitting on Usyk and telling him he is worse then a mma fighter.

That being said, my money is on Usyk.

[Ruthless-RKO]

Queensberry stream.

DAZN have a stream too but it’s Bellend

[Ruthless-RKO]

Will anyone go watch this?

[Bard of Boxrec]

Clearly the best fight to be made but the worst style matchup out there. I expect Usyk to win a decision in a horrifically ugly encounter

[tonyevs]

Clearly the best fight to be made but the worst style matchup out there. I expect Usyk to win a decision in a horrifically ugly encounter

Yes its going to be a very ugly fight for sure. Fury will try/do every dirty trick he knows until the referee deducts points .. as we seen against Ngannou, Fury will go as far as using blatantly using the elbows and unashamedly grabbing.

Usyk has been doing the rounds lately wooing the Saudis and the WBC ... will that give him favour to who referees the contest? the referee will decide how the fight is allowed to be fought - and ultimately the winner.

Allowed to spoil and foul Fury will win a very ugly boring contest.
Not-allowed to spoil and foul Fury will very likely get stopped late on .. or more likely disqualified to save himself the embarrassment.

[Redback Rasta]

I don't think anybody expects this fight to be pretty but at this level you stack the odds in your favour. It's all about winning the fight not trying to meet the crowd's expectations.

[apollo creed]

Rooting for Usyk to fight at the very high pace and swarm Fury with punches from uncomfortable angles.

[Thomastearns]

Clearly the best fight to be made but the worst style matchup out there. I expect Usyk to win a decision in a horrifically ugly encounter

Yes its going to be a very ugly fight for sure. Fury will try/do every dirty trick he knows until the referee deducts points .. as we seen against Ngannou, Fury will go as far as using blatantly using the elbows and unashamedly grabbing.

Usyk has been doing the rounds lately wooing the Saudis and the WBC ... will that give him favour to who referees the contest? the referee will decide how the fight is allowed to be fought - and ultimately the winner.

Allowed to spoil and foul Fury will win a very ugly boring contest.
Not-allowed to spoil and foul Fury will very likely get stopped late on .. or more likely disqualified to save himself the embarrassment.

Absolutely he will.

Only Fury could make a fight with someone like Francis Ngannou look dull at times.

Usyk absolutely needs a ref that will penalise all of that lunging, holding, pushing and who will dock points for use of the elbow.

It's no good being wise after the event.

This fight will go down in HW history whatever happens on the night.

[Evander]

What weights do you think they'll come in at ?
Low to high

Usyk ... 220-228
Fury ... 263-270

[Lackeos]

Will anyone go watch this?

Why would any boxing fan skip this fight? Other than Crawford - Spence 1, Fury - Usyk is pretty much THE fight. Whether entertaining or not, this match-up is pretty much the ultimate culmination of the past 8 years of the heavyweight scene. Fury, Usyk, Joshua, and Wilder were the 4 guys of the era. Usyk beat Joshua twice, Fury beat Wilder twice, and this is the finals.

[joshj909]

Will anyone go watch this?

Why would any boxing fan skip this fight? Other than Crawford - Spence 1, Fury - Usyk is pretty much THE fight. Whether entertaining or not, this match-up is pretty much the ultimate culmination of the past 8 years of the heavyweight scene. Fury, Usyk, Joshua, and Wilder were the 4 guys of the era. Usyk beat Joshua twice, Fury beat Wilder twice, and this is the finals.

Are you going to Saudi Arabia then?

[Ruthless-RKO]

Will anyone go watch this?

Why would any boxing fan skip this fight? Other than Crawford - Spence 1, Fury - Usyk is pretty much THE fight. Whether entertaining or not, this match-up is pretty much the ultimate culmination of the past 8 years of the heavyweight scene. Fury, Usyk, Joshua, and Wilder were the 4 guys of the era. Usyk beat Joshua twice, Fury beat Wilder twice, and this is the finals.

I meant to actually go there and watch it in person.

[funso banjo baby]

Not that fussed. I hope it continues with the big heavyweight undercard

[Evander]

Way it looks ...
They're going to bloom the Heavyweight division in the next 2-5 years because it's too much of an effort to promote multiple lighter weight divisions.
It's just easier to manage and the payoffs are bigger.
That's what direction I think they're going in.

[gregregegg]

Way it looks ...
They're going to bloom the Heavyweight division in the next 2-5 years because it's too much of an effort to promote multiple lighter weight divisions.
It's just easier to manage and the payoffs are bigger.
That's what direction I think they're going in.

Need less weights and less belts. as soon as a division has a definitive champ they move up. meaning a division never has a definitive champ.... throw in controversial decisions and there is rarely a feeling of "The champ" in a division.

Honestly who s the top dog at..:

112? Dunno.
115? Dunno.
118? Dunno.
122? INOUE
126? Dunno
130? Dunno
135? Dunno
140? dunno
147? CRAW
154? Charlo? but still not sure but probably but is he going back? will he ever fight timmy tszyu? but probably.
160? Dunno
168? canelo
175? Dunno
200? Jai?
heavyweight? Dunno.

There are top dogs, but definitive top dog like inoue or craw at otherweights? not really.

I follow boxing fairly close, the fact that theres no proper proper champ in most divisions is pretty weird and makes it very unsatisfying to follow at times. So i think when that happens people (including myself) simplify. and the simplest thing is heavyweight.... cause they arnt moving up anywhere....

[Finkel]

Will anyone go watch this?

Why would any boxing fan skip this fight? Other than Crawford - Spence 1, Fury - Usyk is pretty much THE fight. Whether entertaining or not, this match-up is pretty much the ultimate culmination of the past 8 years of the heavyweight scene. Fury, Usyk, Joshua, and Wilder were the 4 guys of the era. Usyk beat Joshua twice, Fury beat Wilder twice, and this is the finals.

I kind of agree, but this final really needed to happen in 2022, beginning of this year at the latest. Heck Wilder isn't even ranked by TBRB and Boxrec anymore.

Personally, I think it is all a bit rough on Zhang, he was at the same Olympics as Joshua and Usyk, with some still considering the one loss on his record to be somewhat controversial, and he is older than the lot of them and probably won't get a chance at becoming the man of the division until 2025, if at all.

But I do agree, somewhat, that it the culmination of the past 8 years. But Zhang is the only fighter that made any real impact in the division. He beat a top contender not once but twice. In contrast, neither Fury or Usyk (for that matter) have had a fight of any real significance for over a year now.

Then throw in Fury's scare against Ngannou, and Usyk showing signs of vulnerability against Dubois, and this fight has definitely been over marinated.

[Finkel]

Way it looks ...
They're going to bloom the Heavyweight division in the next 2-5 years because it's too much of an effort to promote multiple lighter weight divisions.
It's just easier to manage and the payoffs are bigger.
That's what direction I think they're going in.

Need less weights and less belts. as soon as a division has a definitive champ they move up. meaning a division never has a definitive champ.... throw in controversial decisions and there is rarely a feeling of "The champ" in a division.

Honestly who s the top dog at..:

112? Dunno.
115? Dunno.
118? Dunno.
122? INOUE
126? Dunno
130? Dunno
135? Dunno
140? dunno
147? CRAW
154? Charlo? but still not sure but probably but is he going back? will he ever fight timmy tszyu? but probably.
160? Dunno
168? canelo
175? Dunno
200? Jai?
heavyweight? Dunno.

There are top dogs, but definitive top dog like inoue or craw at otherweights? not really.

I follow boxing fairly close, the fact that theres no proper proper champ in most divisions is pretty weird and makes it very unsatisfying to follow at times. So i think when that happens people (including myself) simplify. and the simplest thing is heavyweight.... cause they arnt moving up anywhere....

Is Haney no longer the proper champion at 135 (I know he is fighting at 140 next week)? On that, isn't Teo the man at 140 after beating Taylor?

[gregregegg]

Way it looks ...
They're going to bloom the Heavyweight division in the next 2-5 years because it's too much of an effort to promote multiple lighter weight divisions.
It's just easier to manage and the payoffs are bigger.
That's what direction I think they're going in.

Need less weights and less belts. as soon as a division has a definitive champ they move up. meaning a division never has a definitive champ.... throw in controversial decisions and there is rarely a feeling of "The champ" in a division.

Honestly who s the top dog at..:

112? Dunno.
115? Dunno.
118? Dunno.
122? INOUE
126? Dunno
130? Dunno
135? Dunno
140? dunno
147? CRAW
154? Charlo? but still not sure but probably but is he going back? will he ever fight timmy tszyu? but probably.
160? Dunno
168? canelo
175? Dunno
200? Jai?
heavyweight? Dunno.

There are top dogs, but definitive top dog like inoue or craw at otherweights? not really.

I follow boxing fairly close, the fact that theres no proper proper champ in most divisions is pretty weird and makes it very unsatisfying to follow at times. So i think when that happens people (including myself) simplify. and the simplest thing is heavyweight.... cause they arnt moving up anywhere....

Is Haney no longer the proper champion at 135 (I know he is fighting at 140 next week)? On that, isn't Teo the man at 140 after beating Taylor?

-Haney has the 135 belts, but is fighting 140 next week and will never go back to 135.... So its kinda semantics but i would not consider him a part of that division anymore...

Is Teo the man? he probably has the strongest argument. but was taylor really top dog when teo beat him? id say 90+% of people had catteral winning that fight... i dunno good win for haney and he might be top 140? my point is its not clear.

To be clear, im not talking about belts here... im talking about top dog. IF canelo vaccated all his 168 belts, he would still be top dog. Inoue has the same number of belts as tapas, but inoue is top dog. I just feel they move up the 2nd its established.

Mabey its semantics, mabey im over reading things, but i just feel like there is so rarely a real champ. multi belt and billion division kills it. look at the UFC, much different sport. but in the UFC if you are the champ, you just are the big dawg, and normaly you defend it till your in the GOAT conversation (at least of that weight class) befor moving up.

[Finkel]

Need less weights and less belts. as soon as a division has a definitive champ they move up. meaning a division never has a definitive champ.... throw in controversial decisions and there is rarely a feeling of "The champ" in a division.

Honestly who s the top dog at..:

112? Dunno.
115? Dunno.
118? Dunno.
122? INOUE
126? Dunno
130? Dunno
135? Dunno
140? dunno
147? CRAW
154? Charlo? but still not sure but probably but is he going back? will he ever fight timmy tszyu? but probably.
160? Dunno
168? canelo
175? Dunno
200? Jai?
heavyweight? Dunno.

There are top dogs, but definitive top dog like inoue or craw at otherweights? not really.

I follow boxing fairly close, the fact that theres no proper proper champ in most divisions is pretty weird and makes it very unsatisfying to follow at times. So i think when that happens people (including myself) simplify. and the simplest thing is heavyweight.... cause they arnt moving up anywhere....

Is Haney no longer the proper champion at 135 (I know he is fighting at 140 next week)? On that, isn't Teo the man at 140 after beating Taylor?

-Haney has the 135 belts, but is fighting 140 next week and will never go back to 135.... So its kinda semantics but i would not consider him a part of that division anymore...

Is Teo the man? he probably has the strongest argument. but was taylor really top dog when teo beat him? id say 90+% of people had catteral winning that fight... i dunno good win for haney and he might be top 140? my point is its not clear.

To be clear, im not talking about belts here... im talking about top dog. IF canelo vaccated all his 168 belts, he would still be top dog. Inoue has the same number of belts as tapas, but inoue is top dog. I just feel they move up the 2nd its established.

Mabey its semantics, mabey im over reading things, but i just feel like there is so rarely a real champ. multi belt and billion division kills it. look at the UFC, much different sport. but in the UFC if you are the champ, you just are the big dawg, and normaly you defend it till your in the GOAT conversation (at least of that weight class) befor moving up.

Likely Taylor wasn't what he was at the weight. And as you say, it's unlikely Haney goes back down. It's funny isn't it. It's kind of like a champion will stick around in a division until they absolutely can't make weight anymore. They really love to have the size advantage over their opponents. Whether we like him or not, I guess you have to respect Canelo for being willing to move up and down the weight classes as he does.

I kind of feel champions used to do that more often back in the day, to varying degrees of success.

I'm looking forward to Inoue Tapales actually. Many had Akhmadaliev being the biggest threat in that division. So, when Inoue beat Fulton, we kind of had a Wilder Fury situation where Fury was seen as the man of division almost by default when Joshua lost to Ruiz. But just like we need Undisputed at heavy, I think we need this Inoue-Tapales fight.
Maybe because I'm in Japan, I'm pretty hyped to see it.

[Ruthless-RKO]

Tyson Fury guarantees he won’t pull out of Usyk fight again



“All this talk of Tyson Fury is scared and he doesn’t want to fight. Yes, it’s happening. Unless your man pulls out, it’s not [sic, it is] happening.

“The only person who will pull out is you guys [Usyk and his team].”