Tyson Fury vs. Oleksandr Usyk | PPV - 18 May 2024

[Redback Rasta]

That they are the only differences you can identify says a lot :lol:

Particularly in the context of the immediate discussion you just bought into regarding Fury's weight :OhYes:

Did I say those were the only differences?

If you've actually watched Usyk fight, he doesn't get involved with clinching on the inside fights, the type that Fury tried but failed against Ngannou because of his upper body strength. So if it's not a clinching inside fight, it's a moot point.

You appear to be as triggered as Fury nowadays. Calm down kid. :maybe:

Fury was unsuccessful wrestling Ngannou because he is built like a tank and trains and fights that sort of stuff. Fury's size will be important against Usyk because when he wrestles and leans on Usyk it will drain Usyk and help Fury dominate him.

Your need to continually try and turn it personal only amplifies the weakness of your arguments :OhYes:

[margaret thatcher]

it wasn't fran's wrestling that scored the kd and busted fury's face up

[The Gratest]

That they are the only differences you can identify says a lot

Particularly in the context of the immediate discussion you just bought into regarding Fury's weight

Did I say those were the only differences?

If you've actually watched Usyk fight, he doesn't get involved with clinching on the inside fights, the type that Fury tried but failed against Ngannou because of his upper body strength. So if it's not a clinching inside fight, it's a moot point.

You appear to be as triggered as Fury nowadays. Calm down kid.

Fury was unsuccessful wrestling Ngannou because he is built like a tank and trains and fights that sort of stuff. Fury's size will be important against Usyk because when he wrestles and leans on Usyk it will drain Usyk and help Fury dominate him.

Your need to continually try and turn it personal only amplifies the weakness of your arguments

You apparently missed the part (perhaps intentionally) about Usyk not being a fighter who gets involved in clinches. If there's no clinching, there's no wrestling, there's no leaning, there's no dominating in that aspect. There are plenty of Usyk fights on Youtube, feel free to show me one where the basis of the fight is clinching and wrestling. What's Fury going to do, chase him around the ring with his arms outstretched?

Personal? What you on about? I just stated you appear to be triggered an awful lot lately. Your sarky 'If that's the only differences' comment being an example.
The overuse of emojis as well doesn't hide it either, rather amplifies it instead.
Just calm down, that's all.

[Coco]

I doubt Usyk will go looking for a clinchfest

[Grilling Machine]

Fury trying to intimidate him was embarrassing, Usyk is more scared of his Mrs.

Usyk's, or the fearsome Paris?

[margaret thatcher]

6'3 220 pound paris , right homi

[Redback Rasta]

it wasn't fran's wrestling that scored the kd and busted fury's face up

Busted his face up? Careful, you are working against the 'why isn't Fury right to fight in December' narrative :lol:

The point that seems beyond your comprehension is Fury's size and strength were not the assets against Ngannou that they will be against Usyk.

[Redback Rasta]

I doubt Usyk will go looking for a clinchfest

That doesn't mean he won't be forced into one.

[margaret thatcher]

it wasn't fran's wrestling that scored the kd and busted fury's face up

Busted his face up? Careful, you are working against the 'why isn't Fury right to fight in December' narrative

The point that seems beyond your comprehension is Fury's size and strength were not the assets against Ngannou that they will be against Usyk.

I understand your point just fine, you are so sensitive these days

the great boxer ngannou had plenty of success vs fury that had nothing to do with wrestling, and usyk has far more boxing skill at his disposal to exploit fury's weaknesses. it is not as easy as just going in there and leaning on a guy, you have to catch them too, and usyk is a very good mover with high fitness levels to maintain it. he may make the up close physical game a moot point and nullify it, using a different approach than nganou did. the tools are there.

[Redback Rasta]

Sensitive :lol:

I come here for a laugh :lol:

[margaret thatcher]

you say you want adult discussion, but instead you call people retarded and don't respond to any of the comment about how styles and attributes match up

[TBA]

Wonder if Ngannou gets on the undercard.

[Ezzard]

I doubt Usyk will go looking for a clinchfest

That doesn't mean he won't be forced into one.

This debate is sort of the fight in a nutshell. Can Usyk evade Fury for 12 rounds? Can Fury force him to grapple early on?

[jwfg]

I think he should do what he and his trainer think will win him the fight.

That's what they did last time out and that didn't work out too well, now did it.

It has worked very nicely for him across a 15 year long career in which he has logged 34-0-1 and won numerous world titles. Fury is not going to suddenly turn up looking like Rudolf Nureyev for Usyk when size and strength will be amongst his major advantages.

You're right of course, it worked unbelievably well last time out.

[big lennox]

I note that TNT Sports still haven't uploaded the full Fury vs Ngannou fight. That's quite telling in itself.

[Twinkle Toes]

If Fury can't get in and use his weight advantage he loses the fight - Usyk has the better footwork.

Frankly it's who has the most left. Both are on the slide imo.

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[jwfg]

If Fury can't get in and use his weight advantage he loses the fight - Usyk has the better footwork.

Frankly it's who has the most left. Both are on the slide imo.

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What do you see Fury weighing in at?

[SeanBrennan]

i logged out and logged back in and it was me again - has anyone else experienced this? bit worried re data security on this site.

It's a semi-regular thing, that Sendo guy seems to be the default account which displays when it happens, has happened to quite a few posters now.

cheers mate. will be vigilant to make sure I don't post in his name if it happens again. Nobody needs linking to my waffling views on boxing.

[Twinkle Toes]

What do you see Fury weighing in at?

I doubt Fury even knows mate, he fluctuates such a lot. Most people laud the second Wilder fight where he came in at 273 so somewhere around that for a guess - Which isn't far off what he was for his last fight.

[jwfg]

What do you see Fury weighing in at?

I doubt Fury even knows mate, he fluctuates such a lot. Most people laud the second Wilder fight where he came in at 273 so somewhere around that for a guess - Which isn't far off what he was for his last fight.

My gut tells me career heaviest. We shall see.

[SeanBrennan]

What do you see Fury weighing in at?

I doubt Fury even knows mate, he fluctuates such a lot. Most people laud the second Wilder fight where he came in at 273 so somewhere around that for a guess - Which isn't far off what he was for his last fight.

My gut tells me career heaviest. We shall see.

he was eating in the interviews I've seen since so I doubt he's dieting well.

[polecateddy]

It should be that Usyk is far too professional and well prepared. That he wins every round and stops Fury late. If Fury’s only chance is that he somehow hangs his fat off Usyk and tires him out, it’s a bit odd the bookies are still favouring Fury. This generation of heavies generally seems to live in the twilight zone. It’s amazing how quickly the casuals will get sucked in again by Fury’s hyper-confident interviews. It used to be that fight fans could spot a shot fighter a mile off!

[Ruthless-RKO]

[margaret thatcher]

like much of team fury, fwank is so sensitive. i wonder if that dude will catch a lawsuit

[coneye]

I doubt Usyk will go looking for a clinchfest

That doesn't mean he won't be forced into one.

Hard to catch someone , quicker and smarter