Is Saudi Arabia about to become the place to host boxing's biggest fights ?

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Is Saudi Arabia about to become the place to host boxing's biggest fights ?

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In the past it's always been about Las Vegas hosting the worlds biggest boxing matches.
Yes there are a number of other places that hold them from time to time too, but Las Vegas has almost always been the epicenter of boxing when it came to the real big events.

Is Saudi Arabia about to take that role from Las Vegas ?
What say you ?
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Hopefully. The big fights don't have to be in the USA all the time.
The UFC also extended their contract with the saudis to host an event every year.
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It's beginning to look that way.
That seems to be where the big money is.
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Saudi Arabia certainly makes the most promises for the least return.
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Saudi desperately needs credibility in these rapidly changing times and they have a vast amount of money to burn to buy some.

Saudi is also a big ally of the globalists glove puppet USA and therefore has to keep its image up, and global sporting attention is always a good way to do it.

Meanwhile the ban on Russia is in reality little more than an exercise in propaganda, a small part in the much larger ongoing war.

As they say, money talks.
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Saudi Arabia. The place that sheltered the 9/11 bombers and kidnapped and butchered a journalist? Great place to showcase your sport. :stop:
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Cap wrote: 29 Oct 2023, 09:58 Saudi Arabia. The place that sheltered the 9/11 bombers and kidnapped and butchered a journalist? Great place to showcase your sport. :stop:
Money over everything
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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 29 Oct 2023, 17:08
Cap wrote: 29 Oct 2023, 09:58 Saudi Arabia. The place that sheltered the 9/11 bombers and kidnapped and butchered a journalist? Great place to showcase your sport. :stop:
Money over everything
Sad but true. Also I might add is that the insane money being offered by Saudi is really bad for boxing.
Fights that should be made are now being delayed more often waiting on unrealistic paydays.
Getting tired of waiting on competitive fights to be made. The sport keeps dying. Eventually no one will care
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Hope not the crowds are shit. Bigger pop for the president than there was for Fury :OhYes:
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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 29 Oct 2023, 17:08
Cap wrote: 29 Oct 2023, 09:58 Saudi Arabia. The place that sheltered the 9/11 bombers and kidnapped and butchered a journalist? Great place to showcase your sport. :stop:
Money over everything

Absolutely, and that's what money does.

Did you see the celebrity guest list?
Christiano Ronaldo and Eminem were not there just to watch that endless prefight show, were they?

Imagine being so well off you can hire Evander Holyfield and Lennox Lewis as 'doormen'.
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I can write about this for days, but Vegas became the place for the biggest fights because casinos paid up and above the valuation of the fight because they could recoup expenses from whales (ultra high limit gamblers) they'd bring in using the fight as a marketing/development expense. Casinos don't see the the return anymore and have largely abandoned boxing, leaving it to its own devices. As is the case when revenue is substantially less than expenses with boxing, promoters have turned to sportswashing with sometimes tyrannical regimes. Don King is the most successful individual sportswasher in human history, essentially being a one man IOC from the late 1960s to when the funds stopped flowing in the early 2010s.

In any case, boxing has been chasing big checks from someone who sees the value of the event being more in terms of hearts and minds than $ and 0s for a very, very long time now and Saudi Arabia just represents the terminus of that plan or lack thereof.
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tiny_acres wrote: 29 Oct 2023, 18:40
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 29 Oct 2023, 17:08
Cap wrote: 29 Oct 2023, 09:58 Saudi Arabia. The place that sheltered the 9/11 bombers and kidnapped and butchered a journalist? Great place to showcase your sport. :stop:
Money over everything
Sad but true. Also I might add is that the insane money being offered by Saudi is really bad for boxing.
Fights that should be made are now being delayed more often waiting on unrealistic paydays.
Getting tired of waiting on competitive fights to be made. The sport keeps dying. Eventually no one will care
The general public only ever cares about 1 fight at a time. They don't follow Most guys careers or anything like that. The big fights get the attention of most sports fans or casual fans.
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Early days yet.
The Saudis spent and arm and a leg on Fury v Ngannou.
Not money well spent for what they got.
They know how to do a show but are not investing their money wisely in boxing unless their main goal is the heavyweight division which it looks like it is.
They have little interest in the lighter divisions because it make less coin.
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Have you seen the quality of the Saudi Card on 23rd December ?
Wow, look at the line up and records.
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The Saudis have money to burn and these early cards will probably be loss leaders. It is all about getting themselves on the map and in the spotlight at this stage.

On a positive note, it has demonstrated how quickly fights can really be made when both sides actually want them.
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Redback Rasta wrote: 22 Nov 2023, 04:17 The Saudis have money to burn and these early cards will probably be loss leaders. It is all about getting themselves on the map and in the spotlight at this stage.

On a positive note, it has demonstrated how quickly fights can really be made when both sides actually want them.
Looks like they are cornering the Heavyweight division.
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Evander wrote: 22 Nov 2023, 04:34
Redback Rasta wrote: 22 Nov 2023, 04:17 The Saudis have money to burn and these early cards will probably be loss leaders. It is all about getting themselves on the map and in the spotlight at this stage.

On a positive note, it has demonstrated how quickly fights can really be made when both sides actually want them.
Looks like they are cornering the Heavyweight division.
Hardly surprising. Plus it has been in hibernation. Which only adds interest to what they are scheduling.
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Should wash some of the blood and guts off the hands of the Saudis and their murderous leader the Prince.
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Thomastearns wrote: 30 Oct 2023, 10:05
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 29 Oct 2023, 17:08
Cap wrote: 29 Oct 2023, 09:58 Saudi Arabia. The place that sheltered the 9/11 bombers and kidnapped and butchered a journalist? Great place to showcase your sport. :stop:
Money over everything

Absolutely, and that's what money does.

Did you see the celebrity guest list?
Christiano Ronaldo and Eminem were not there just to watch that endless prefight show, were they?

Imagine being so well off you can hire Evander Holyfield and Lennox Lewis as 'doormen'.
Yeah that's the thing that gets me. The way they'll pay these Celebrities I'm assuming Millions of dollars just to come and BE at your event. Just to be seen there.

I can't imagine the amount of money that you'd have to offer me to go to Saudi Arabia. They're surely spending Millions just on that.

Seems insane that they could afford such extravagant money losing endeavors.
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Who travels to these shows I wonder. Vegas is one thing, but Riyadh?
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Sad.
Zero atmosphere. Vile regime.

Can we blame the fighters ? Footballers, golfers, tennisers… etc etc ?
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Probably not. Some take a stand though

https://www.sportskeeda.com/tennis/news ... rabia-2017
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Evander wrote: 22 Oct 2023, 00:45 In the past it's always been about Las Vegas hosting the worlds biggest boxing matches.
Yes there are a number of other places that hold them from time to time too, but Las Vegas has almost always been the epicenter of boxing when it came to the real big events.

Is Saudi Arabia about to take that role from Las Vegas ?
What say you ?

Yes.
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Redback Rasta wrote: 22 Nov 2023, 04:17 The Saudis have money to burn and these early cards will probably be loss leaders. It is all about getting themselves on the map and in the spotlight at this stage.

On a positive note, it has demonstrated how quickly fights can really be made when both sides actually want them.
As we have seen in football (Manchester City/PSG) the middle eastern countries have an unlimited amount of money. These sport ventures are nothing more than a plaything/hobby to them. They aren't involved to make money - which is a good sign for Boxing. We will likely get all the fights we have dreamed of over the next few years and for the foreseeable future. It's a good thing in my eyes but the downside is, there will be virtually zero atmosphere at any of these huge events.
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Is anyone else sad that it's coming to this? Top boxers are fighting in nowhere Saudi Arabia while YouTubers are still fighting in front of big crowds in America? I'm sure these guys are getting paid, but I'm for growing boxing. I don't see how fighting in Saudi Arabia is good for this sport. I mean my enthusiasm is at an all time low, and I used to watch odd Polish, Japanese, and Russian cards a few years ago because I loved the sport so much.
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