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[Ruthless-RKO]

Parker and Sanchez both have same votes are tied.

I have posted a poll.

Pick one please so we can settle this.

VOTES
14. Dubois 12 of 25 (48%)
15. Ngannou 6 of 25 (24%)
16. Wardley 13 of 25 (52%)


When is Wardley's next fight? He's been hard done by there.

Yeh. Cus people have ranked Ngannou quite high up

[Finkel]

Parker and Sanchez both have same votes are tied.

I have posted a poll.

Pick one please so we can settle this.

VOTES
14. Dubois 12 of 25 (48%)
15. Ngannou 6 of 25 (24%)
16. Wardley 13 of 25 (52%)


When is Wardley's next fight? He's been hard done by there.

Yeh. Cus people have ranked Ngannou quite high up

6 hardcore Fury fans.

[Finkel]

Fabio Wardley (17-0-0) who is British, Commonwealth, WBA International, and WBO European Champion.

Or

Francis Ngannou (0-1-0) who has completed 10 rounds of boxing

[joshj909]

Fabio Wardley (17-0-0) who is British, Commonwealth, WBA International, and WBO European Champion.

Or

Francis Ngannou (0-1-0) who has completed 10 rounds of boxing

Rather than drop Fury down they have massively boosted Ngannou up. If Ngannou won on the cards, I wonder how people would have voted because surely none of them would have voted him at 1.

[gregregegg]

Fabio Wardley (17-0-0) who is British, Commonwealth, WBA International, and WBO European Champion.

Or

Francis Ngannou (0-1-0) who has completed 10 rounds of boxing

Wardlys career best performance knocking out a guy who’s English level.

Nganu career best performance going approximately Evan with the number 1 guy (my number 2, but at the time I would say he was considered number 1 by most)

You can break things down many ways…

[margaret thatcher]

parker should defo be above sanchez

[Finkel]

Fabio Wardley (17-0-0) who is British, Commonwealth, WBA International, and WBO European Champion.

Or

Francis Ngannou (0-1-0) who has completed 10 rounds of boxing

Wardlys career best performance knocking out a guy who’s English level.

Nganu career best performance going approximately Evan with the number 1 guy (my number 2, but at the time I would say he was considered number 1 by most)

You can break things down many ways…

Yeah, sure, but the sensible way to break it down is you realise that the number 2 guy is now shot to bits after following the Ricky Hatton guide to boxing longeivity. And not that, you know, a debutant MMA fighter is actually just a diamond in the rough world class boxer.

I agree with you on Wardley, though. He wasn't in my top 15. But, similarly, many still claim Gorman is Dubois' best win... And Wardley got more than double the votes of Ngannou, so...

As for Ngannou and Fury, here is my actual break down on that

I don't get this excuse of waving away Fury's troubles because of Ngannou size and power.

The whole purpose of martial arts is that a skilled practitioner can overcome an unskilled one even if they are significantly larger.

So if we run this argument of novice Ngannou's size and strength causing problems for a 6'9" world champion boxer, fighting under boxing rules, to its obvious conclusion... Then we are saying Boxing is the most pathetic and pointless martial art in existence.

It kind seems like the more obvious conclusion to draw is not that boxing is a complete waste of time, but that Fury is on a very steep decline

Personally, I think this should have been pretty obvious to anyone with Mixed Martial Arts and Boxing experience.

[Finkel]

Fabio Wardley (17-0-0) who is British, Commonwealth, WBA International, and WBO European Champion.

Or

Francis Ngannou (0-1-0) who has completed 10 rounds of boxing

Rather than drop Fury down they have massively boosted Ngannou up. If Ngannou won on the cards, I wonder how people would have voted because surely none of them would have voted him at 1.

Looks that way. But some of the "Lineal" bros would have definitely had it
1. Ngannou
2. Fury
3. Usyk

[gregregegg]

Fabio Wardley (17-0-0) who is British, Commonwealth, WBA International, and WBO European Champion.

Or

Francis Ngannou (0-1-0) who has completed 10 rounds of boxing

Wardlys career best performance knocking out a guy who’s English level.

Nganu career best performance going approximately Evan with the number 1 guy (my number 2, but at the time I would say he was considered number 1 by most)

You can break things down many ways…

Yeah, sure, but the sensible way to break it down is you realise that the number 2 guy is now shot to bits after following the Ricky Hatton guide to boxing longeivity. And not that, you know, a debutant MMA fighter is actually just a diamond in the rough world class boxer.

I agree with you on Wardley, though. He wasn't in my top 15. But, similarly, many still claim Gorman is Dubois' best win...

As for Ngannou and Fury, here is my actual break down on that

I don't get this excuse of waving away Fury's troubles because of Ngannou size and power.

The whole purpose of martial arts is that a skilled practitioner can overcome an unskilled one even if they are significantly larger.

So if we run this argument of novice Ngannou's size and strength causing problems for a 6'9" world champion boxer, fighting under boxing rules, to its obvious conclusion... Then we are saying Boxing is the most pathetic and pointless martial art in existence.

It kind seems like the more obvious conclusion to draw is not that boxing is a complete waste of time, but that Fury is on a very steep decline

I get your stance, but it’s hard to just bet on the “fury is shot to bits” card with no pattern. I’d say it’s more likely he just didn’t train much… either way he was still the top guy.

All the top crew are a bad performance away from being called “shot to bits” given there carrers. They are still the top guys.


As for your stance on boxing skill should trump athleticism… this is true for weigh classed boxing… but honestly we have seen many times raw size and athleticism play a huggggge role in heavyweight success.

Wilder got an Olympic medal after 18 months boxing… and honestly never really learnt to “box”, just learnt to be effective with his attributes and was a world champ for years… if wilder had had Parker’s reach and power he wouldn’t be top 100…

AJ is stiff and basic, if you scaled him down to 135 and gave him mediocre power how do you think his “skills” would hold up.

Would Tyson fury’s skills hold up if he was 6”3 220lb?

Would vlads 1-2 grab have worked if he wasn’t an absolute unit…

Heavyweight is very unique, these giants are no Crawford or lomachencos or usyks they are just fairly good boxers in incredible body’s… (being a decent boxer in one of those body’s is much harder to begin with coordination wise)

Nganu dosent have time to convert to boxing, but if he tried to jump over at 32 not 37 then he would have had a decent chance to be a success through athleticism and toughness.

[Finkel]

Wardlys career best performance knocking out a guy who’s English level.

Nganu career best performance going approximately Evan with the number 1 guy (my number 2, but at the time I would say he was considered number 1 by most)

You can break things down many ways…

Yeah, sure, but the sensible way to break it down is you realise that the number 2 guy is now shot to bits after following the Ricky Hatton guide to boxing longeivity. And not that, you know, a debutant MMA fighter is actually just a diamond in the rough world class boxer.

I agree with you on Wardley, though. He wasn't in my top 15. But, similarly, many still claim Gorman is Dubois' best win...

As for Ngannou and Fury, here is my actual break down on that

I don't get this excuse of waving away Fury's troubles because of Ngannou size and power.

The whole purpose of martial arts is that a skilled practitioner can overcome an unskilled one even if they are significantly larger.

So if we run this argument of novice Ngannou's size and strength causing problems for a 6'9" world champion boxer, fighting under boxing rules, to its obvious conclusion... Then we are saying Boxing is the most pathetic and pointless martial art in existence.

It kind seems like the more obvious conclusion to draw is not that boxing is a complete waste of time, but that Fury is on a very steep decline

I get your stance, but it’s hard to just bet on the “fury is shot to bits” card with no pattern. I’d say it’s more likely he just didn’t train much… either way he was still the top guy.

All the top crew are a bad performance away from being called “shot to bits” given there carrers. They are still the top guys.


As for your stance on boxing skill should trump athleticism… this is true for weigh classed boxing… but honestly we have seen many times raw size and athleticism play a huggggge role in heavyweight success.

Wilder got an Olympic medal after 18 months boxing… and honestly never really learnt to “box”, just learnt to be effective with his attributes and was a world champ for years… if wilder had had Parker’s reach and power he wouldn’t be top 100…

AJ is stiff and basic, if you scaled him down to 135 and gave him mediocre power how do you think his “skills” would hold up.

Would Tyson fury’s skills hold up if he was 6”3 220lb?

Would vlads 1-2 grab have worked if he wasn’t an absolute unit…

Heavyweight is very unique, these giants are no Crawford or lomachencos or usyks they are just fairly good boxers in incredible body’s… (being a decent boxer in one of those body’s is much harder to begin with coordination wise)

Nganu dosent have time to convert to boxing, but if he tried to jump over at 32 not 37 then he would have had a decent chance to be a success through athleticism and toughness.

I think the pattern might be within what Fury chose to do the last few years. His (second) peak was Wilder 2. A year of inactivity later (and some issues in his private life) resulted in the Wilder 3 performance. He then chose to fight Whyte who was a perfect style match up for him instead of fighting Usyk. He looked decent against Whyte (who himself many said was on a steep decline), but didn't look great. He then cherry picks Chisora with a little help from the WBC, and another perfect stylistic match up for him. Then instead of again fighting Usyk or, barring that, fighting anyone in the WBC top 15, he cherry picks an MMA guy (albeit for a truck load of money) and after nearly another year of innactivity proceeds to shit the bed.

Btw, I completely agree that the current heavyweight division is more about attributes than purely skill based. However the old adage that a good big guy beats a good small guy still holds true.

Yes, Wilder might well be an unskilled big guy, but he was extremely carefully matched to get him first a title shot and then keep him there for so many defences. He wasn't fighting the best of the division, quite the opposite.
But whilst I'm not Wilder's biggest fan, I would say he showed decent enough boxing skills against Stiverne when he won the title. Having said that he then fell in love with the right hand and didn't really progress. His other two best wins, being against Ortiz, both have asterisks against them.
And in my eyes, he went zero for three against Fury, who he is far smaller than.

Joshua was defeated by Usyk and Ruiz Jr. Where to varying degrees the size gap was overcome through their skill.

Fury and Ngannou flips the tables in regards to all that.
Fury is a skilled boxer. Just look at his offensive display in Chisora 2 or his defensive display when he was completely out of shape in Wilder 1.

Fury has height, reach, and stamina over Ngannou. So whilst Ngannou clearly has a good chin, is stronger, and more athletic, he was very basic when it came to actual boxing. And yet he pushed a guy whose whole life has been boxing to the brink. That doesn't happen unless the timing and athleticism have completely left the experienced more skilled guy.

I agree with you that if Ngannou came into boxing years earlier, he would have a decent shot at climbing the rankings. But I'm not sure Ngannou being old, inactive, and having been coming off a surgey is a good argument for him to be ranked and one against Fury being shot.

[Finkel]

If wilder had had Parker’s reach and power he wouldn’t be top 100…

AJ is stiff and basic, if you scaled him down to 135 and gave him mediocre power how do you think his “skills” would hold up.

Would Tyson fury’s skills hold up if he was 6”3 220lb?

Would vlads 1-2 grab have worked if he wasn’t an absolute unit…

Heavyweight is very unique, these giants are no Crawford or lomachencos or usyks they are just fairly good boxers in incredible body’s… (being a decent boxer in one of those body’s is much harder to begin with coordination wise).

You raise an interest point here, so I'll respond more directly here.

I would say if you scale down fighters who rely heavily on their attributes over skill then yes, they would likely not be as successful.

However I think Fury is an actually skilled fighter (and Wlad too). So if you scale Fury down it isn't only about what physical traits he loses but also what does he gain when he is scaled down.

I think a scaled down Fury would have always been successful. How successful is impossible to predict. It's similar to what would Ali be like with a modern diet and sports science. Would he have been taller, stronger, faster, and maintained the same skill set?
I have no idea really.

[gregregegg]

If wilder had had Parker’s reach and power he wouldn’t be top 100…

AJ is stiff and basic, if you scaled him down to 135 and gave him mediocre power how do you think his “skills” would hold up.

Would Tyson fury’s skills hold up if he was 6”3 220lb?

Would vlads 1-2 grab have worked if he wasn’t an absolute unit…

Heavyweight is very unique, these giants are no Crawford or lomachencos or usyks they are just fairly good boxers in incredible body’s… (being a decent boxer in one of those body’s is much harder to begin with coordination wise).

You raise an interest point here, so I'll respond more directly here.

I would say if you scale down fighters who rely heavily on their attributes over skill then yes, they would likely not be as successful.

However I think Fury is an actually skilled fighter (and Wlad too). So if you scale Fury down it isn't only about what physical traits he loses but also what does he gain when he is scaled down.

I think a scaled down Fury would have always been successful. How successful is impossible to predict. It's similar to what would Ali be like with a modern diet and sports science. Would he have been taller, stronger, faster, and maintained the same skill set?
I have no idea really.

I think fury has skills, and if you scaled him down he would develop more skills… but the fact he is basically a 50-50 vs usyk (a true skilled boxer) shows that his skills are very reliant on size…

Giving away 50lbs and 5 inches… and still being near 50-50…. It’s easy to see has the better skills.

Now being big is part of the game at heavy… usyk gets to fight cruiser if he wants. Fury gets to be big…. Fury is the most skilled giant… but my point is the giants have huge skill deficiency’s compared to little guys. (I think that’s evedent when fury although skilled can afford to go on 3 year benders and out on 150lb and still come back top level…)

[Finkel]

If wilder had had Parker’s reach and power he wouldn’t be top 100…

AJ is stiff and basic, if you scaled him down to 135 and gave him mediocre power how do you think his “skills” would hold up.

Would Tyson fury’s skills hold up if he was 6”3 220lb?

Would vlads 1-2 grab have worked if he wasn’t an absolute unit…

Heavyweight is very unique, these giants are no Crawford or lomachencos or usyks they are just fairly good boxers in incredible body’s… (being a decent boxer in one of those body’s is much harder to begin with coordination wise).

You raise an interest point here, so I'll respond more directly here.

I would say if you scale down fighters who rely heavily on their attributes over skill then yes, they would likely not be as successful.

However I think Fury is an actually skilled fighter (and Wlad too). So if you scale Fury down it isn't only about what physical traits he loses but also what does he gain when he is scaled down.

I think a scaled down Fury would have always been successful. How successful is impossible to predict. It's similar to what would Ali be like with a modern diet and sports science. Would he have been taller, stronger, faster, and maintained the same skill set?
I have no idea really.

I think fury has skills, and if you scaled him down he would develop more skills… but the fact he is basically a 50-50 vs usyk (a true skilled boxer) shows that his skills are very reliant on size…

Giving away 50lbs and 5 inches… and still being near 50-50…. It’s easy to see has the better skills.

Now being big is part of the game at heavy… usyk gets to fight cruiser if he wants. Fury gets to be big…. Fury is the most skilled giant… but my point is the giants have huge skill deficiency’s compared to little guys. (I think that’s evedent when fury although skilled can afford to go on 3 year benders and out on 150lb and still come back top level…)

[Finkel]

If wilder had had Parker’s reach and power he wouldn’t be top 100…

AJ is stiff and basic, if you scaled him down to 135 and gave him mediocre power how do you think his “skills” would hold up.

Would Tyson fury’s skills hold up if he was 6”3 220lb?

Would vlads 1-2 grab have worked if he wasn’t an absolute unit…

Heavyweight is very unique, these giants are no Crawford or lomachencos or usyks they are just fairly good boxers in incredible body’s… (being a decent boxer in one of those body’s is much harder to begin with coordination wise).

You raise an interest point here, so I'll respond more directly here.

I would say if you scale down fighters who rely heavily on their attributes over skill then yes, they would likely not be as successful.

However I think Fury is an actually skilled fighter (and Wlad too). So if you scale Fury down it isn't only about what physical traits he loses but also what does he gain when he is scaled down.

I think a scaled down Fury would have always been successful. How successful is impossible to predict. It's similar to what would Ali be like with a modern diet and sports science. Would he have been taller, stronger, faster, and maintained the same skill set?
I have no idea really.

I think fury has skills, and if you scaled him down he would develop more skills… but the fact he is basically a 50-50 vs usyk (a true skilled boxer) shows that his skills are very reliant on size…

Giving away 50lbs and 5 inches… and still being near 50-50…. It’s easy to see has the better skills.

Now being big is part of the game at heavy… usyk gets to fight cruiser if he wants. Fury gets to be big…. Fury is the most skilled giant… but my point is the giants have huge skill deficiency’s compared to little guys. (I think that’s evedent when fury although skilled can afford to go on 3 year benders and out on 150lb and still come back top level…)

We are kind of arguing over something that is unfalsifiable, but I think it is fairer to say the argument is that Fury's current style of fighting now takes advantage of his size more so than when he was younger and under Peter Fury. Similar to how Wlad developed his style under Steward.

Also, Fury is only now 50-50 with Usyk directly because of the awful performance against Ngannou, pointing to signs of slippage in Fury. Fury has always been the clear favourite (for me anyway) in previous years.

Some may argue that we didn't get the Undisputed fight until now because Fury himself saw Usyk as more of a threat than his fans, and I think that is correct to an extent, but more so that the threat he was ducking was actually one to his bank balance. Basically, his whole come back for me has been about a money grab. He went for the easiest route to a belt, wasting his talent and potential, because he has wanted to maximise his earnings from the WBC strap for as long as possible by taking as few risks as possible. In other words, he wanted to be financially incentivised to risk his earnings on what was likely at worst 60-40 in his favour against Usyk, or perhaps he saw it as a 70-30.

Whilst I would never think it was going to be a cake walk for Fury, I think he would have been the clear favourite if he was still able to come in something close to the shape of Wilder 2.

For me, it's just another case of styles make fights:
Usyk is a bad match up for Joshua
Joshua is a bad match up for Fury
Fury is a bad match up Usyk

Saying that, if Usyk can't beat this version of Fury, then maybe Ngannou is a top 15 heavyweight. Though, I would like to see Ngannou actually beat a top 20 heavyweight first.

But as I said above, I think it is more likely Fury is a shot fighter and done at the top level. And on that, I don't think Usyk v Fury is even 50-50 anymore. I fully expect Usyk to now beat him, because I think you are right that Usyk is going to demonstrate his superior skills (and athleticism) will overcome Fury's size in February, because, sadly, I think Fury is so far past his best, that size is all he has left.

[Ruthless-RKO]

The vote is over.

Here is the new rankings!!

Current ranking:
Oleksandr Usyk - 21(14) 0 0 - next fight: 17.02.2024 vs. Tyson Fury - 34(24) 0 1 - (#2)

2. Tyson Fury - 34(24) 0 1 - next fight: 17.02.2024 vs. Oleksandr Usyk - 21(14) 0 0 - ()

3. Anthony Joshua - 26(23) 3(1) 0 - next fight: 23.12.2023 vs. Otto Wallin - 26(14) 1(0) 0 - (#7)

4. Zhilei Zhang - 24(21) 1(0) 1 - next fight: TBA

5. Filip Hrgovic - 16(13) 0 0 - next fight: 23.12.2023 vs. Mark De Mori - 41(36) 2(2) 2 - (Boxrec's #290)

6. Joe Joyce - 15(14) 2(2) 0 - next fight: TBA

7. Otto Wallin - 26(14) 1(0) 0 - next fight: 23.12.2023 vs. Anthony Joshua - 26(23) 3(1) 0 - (#3)

8. Martin Bakole - 20(15) 1(1) 0 - next fight: TBA

9. Joseph Parker - 33(23) 3(1) 0 - next fight: 23.12.2023 vs. Deontay Wilder - 43(42) 2(2) 1 - (unranked, inactive)

10. Frank Sanchez - 23(16) 0 0 - next fight: 23.12.2023 vs. Junior Fa - 20(11) 2(1) 0 - (unranked, inactive)

11. Arslanbek Makhmudov - 18(17) 0 0 - next fight: 23.12.2023 vs. Agit Kabayel - 23(15) 0(0) 0 - (Boxrec's #23)

12. Efe Ajagba - 19(14) 1(0) 0 - next fight: TBA

13. Jared Anderson - 16(15) 0 0 - next fight: TBA

14. Daniel Dubois - 19(18) 2(2) 0 - next fight: 23.12.2023 vs. Jarrell Miller - 26(22) 0 1 - (Boxrec's #18)

15. Francis Ngannou - 0 1(0) 0 - next fight: TBA

[Ruthless-RKO]

everyone happy?

Wardley been hard done.. but we due another shake up end of the year

[joshj909]

Think these ones will impact the shake up the most:
(3) Joshua vs (7) Wallin
(NR) Wilder vs (9) Parker
(14) Dubois vs (NR) Miller
(11) Makhmudov vs (NR) Kabayel

While these will likely only do more harm than good:
(10) Sanchez vs (NR) Fa
(5) Hrgovic vs (NR) De Mori

[Ruthless-RKO]

Think these ones will impact the shake up the most:
(3) Joshua vs (7) Wallin
(NR) Wilder vs (9) Parker
(14) Dubois vs (NR) Miller
(11) Makhmudov vs (NR) Kabayel

While these will likely only do more harm than good:
(10) Sanchez vs (NR) Fa
(5) Hrgovic vs (NR) De Mori

Yes.. Mak-Kab is an '0' that must go.

Miller has chance to enter, he can just take Dubois place.

Wilder can re-enter whether he wins or loses.

[joshj909]

Think these ones will impact the shake up the most:
(3) Joshua vs (7) Wallin
(NR) Wilder vs (9) Parker
(14) Dubois vs (NR) Miller
(11) Makhmudov vs (NR) Kabayel

While these will likely only do more harm than good:
(10) Sanchez vs (NR) Fa
(5) Hrgovic vs (NR) De Mori

Yes.. Mak-Kab is an '0' that must go.

Miller has chance to enter, he can just take Dubois place.

Wilder can re-enter whether he wins or loses.

Are we re-voting from scratch again or just following on from this one? I imagine most people would change a number of their votes just as time has passed.

[Ruthless-RKO]

Think these ones will impact the shake up the most:
(3) Joshua vs (7) Wallin
(NR) Wilder vs (9) Parker
(14) Dubois vs (NR) Miller
(11) Makhmudov vs (NR) Kabayel

While these will likely only do more harm than good:
(10) Sanchez vs (NR) Fa
(5) Hrgovic vs (NR) De Mori

Yes.. Mak-Kab is an '0' that must go.

Miller has chance to enter, he can just take Dubois place.

Wilder can re-enter whether he wins or loses.

Are we re-voting from scratch again or just following on from this one? I imagine most people would change a number of their votes just as time has passed.

I’m considering a revote. We gotta vote on 9 boxers. Too much work.

Just based on the results. Re-do them.

[SportsRatings]

Yes.. Mak-Kab is an '0' that must go.

Miller has chance to enter, he can just take Dubois place.

Wilder can re-enter whether he wins or loses.

Are we re-voting from scratch again or just following on from this one? I imagine most people would change a number of their votes just as time has passed.

I’m considering a revote. We gotta vote on 9 boxers. Too much work.

Just based on the results. Re-do them.

I agree. Total re-votes should be rare, but a month like December comes along only once every several years. March of 2018 and this August were both really stacked months too.

[Finkel]

Yes.. Mak-Kab is an '0' that must go.

Miller has chance to enter, he can just take Dubois place.

Wilder can re-enter whether he wins or loses.

Are we re-voting from scratch again or just following on from this one? I imagine most people would change a number of their votes just as time has passed.

I’m considering a revote. We gotta vote on 9 boxers. Too much work.

Just based on the results. Re-do them.

Do whatever is easiest for you. It is a lot of work.

One positive thing to consider is all the revote did was basically fill in spots 14 and 15 with Dubois and Ngannou. There was also a little bit of movement with Parker and Joyce, but our new rankings probably aren't that different from what our old ones would have been through voting. (maybe Fury would have dropped to #3 or #4 )

Though, one downside is giving a full ranking again doesn't really open up discussion on the placement of individual fighters based on their latest win-loss-draw.

I think you are right: wait for the results to come in, decide which you think will be the least work, and then go with that option.

[Finkel]

Think these ones will impact the shake up the most:
(3) Joshua vs (7) Wallin
(NR) Wilder vs (9) Parker
(14) Dubois vs (NR) Miller
(11) Makhmudov vs (NR) Kabayel

While these will likely only do more harm than good:
(10) Sanchez vs (NR) Fa
(5) Hrgovic vs (NR) De Mori

Where do you predict the winner of each slotting in?
For me (with a clean win in each fight):
(3) Joshua vs (7) Wallin Winner to (2) loser to (7)
(NR) Wilder vs (9) Parker Winner to (5) loser to (12)
(11) Makhmudov vs (NR) Kabayel Winner to (8) loser out
(14) Dubois vs (NR) Miller Winner to (10) loser out
(10) Sanchez vs (NR) Fa Winner to (11) loser out
(5) Hrgovic vs (NR) De Mori yeah Hrgovic's getting bumped down by the winner of Wilder v Parker, so that's all good

[margaret thatcher]

dominator de mori for #1

[Ruthless-RKO]

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