Tony Bellew

[maverick23]

I like Bellew.

Met him a couple of times and he’s been really nice.

Re: his career, he maximised his potential which is all anyone can do. He won vacant titles but he beat some reasonable opponents. Ovil McKenzie to win the British and defend the commonwealth. Beat Masternak for the European title which is good win and beat Makabu for the world title who went on to hold the title himself for a couple of years.

Went on to make his money against Haye (it wasn’t his fault Haye was way past his best) and then gave it a good go against Usyk.

[tonyevs]

Famous sports people are often in a difficult position of having to live up to the fans of their particular sports unrealistic expectations.

I think it's worth remembering that in boxing they are just very good at punching someone.
Good at kicking a ball if they are a footballer .. able ride a bike fast if they are a cyclist .. or throw darts very accurately if they are dart players. Not exactly significant things in the bigger picture of things ..
They rarely excel at anything outside of their chosen sport .. I can't think of any former professional top class boxer having become a doctor or something similar which had a positive impact on human kind.

As any professional sportsperson Bellew ultimately had talent and a huge amount of luck which enabled him to become very rich. Best of luck to him for achieving it too.

[Ezzard]

People seem to forget that before the first Haye fight that Bellew was telling everyone who would listen that Haye was not the same fighter.

There was no luck involved. He knew he would win. He knew Haye's days were numbered. He made an informed gamble that paid off.

[a force]

People seem to forget that before the first Haye fight that Bellew was telling everyone who would listen that Haye was not the same fighter.

There was no luck involved. He knew he would win. He knew Haye's days were numbered. He made an informed gamble that paid off.

Bang on. They knew Haye’s body was knackered. Coldwell knows people close to Haye from his days at Hayemaker & they knew about Haye flying to Germany to see an injury specialist on fight week.

[Controversial]

People seem to forget that before the first Haye fight that Bellew was telling everyone who would listen that Haye was not the same fighter.

There was no luck involved. He knew he would win. He knew Haye's days were numbered. He made an informed gamble that paid off.

Bang on. They knew Haye’s body was knackered. Coldwell knows people close to Haye from his days at Hayemaker & they knew about Haye flying to Germany to see an injury specialist on fight week.

Absolutely, I recall Bellew saying before the first fight that Haye wasn't fit so I think in boxing circles it was well known. Haye also disappeared off to Miami and stayed on a boat, I think he wanted to be away from cameras and reporters as he couldn't train properly and didn't want it in the press.

[Nightmare Roy]

Scummy blue nose, hope he gets cancer

You fence sitting bastard......

[Controversial]

Famous sports people are often in a difficult position of having to live up to the fans of their particular sports unrealistic expectations.

I think it's worth remembering that in boxing they are just very good at punching someone.
Good at kicking a ball if they are a footballer .. able ride a bike fast if they are a cyclist .. or throw darts very accurately if they are dart players. Not exactly significant things in the bigger picture of things ..
They rarely excel at anything outside of their chosen sport .. I can't think of any former professional top class boxer having become a doctor or something similar which had a positive impact on human kind.

As any professional sportsperson Bellew ultimately had talent and a huge amount of luck which enabled him to become very rich. Best of luck to him for achieving it too.

I agree with this. The saying ‘don’t meet your heroes’ is bang on as many aren’t nice/clever/polite etc etc. They may just be a good actor, singer, athlete or whatever. I can imagine someone like Bellew going down the wrong path if it wasn’t for boxing and not being a nice bloke to be on the wrong side of. As a fighter I think he had a decent career.

[Ruthless-RKO]

[wrighty]

Famous sports people are often in a difficult position of having to live up to the fans of their particular sports unrealistic expectations.

I think it's worth remembering that in boxing they are just very good at punching someone.
Good at kicking a ball if they are a footballer .. able ride a bike fast if they are a cyclist .. or throw darts very accurately if they are dart players. Not exactly significant things in the bigger picture of things ..
They rarely excel at anything outside of their chosen sport .. I can't think of any former professional top class boxer having become a doctor or something similar which had a positive impact on human kind.

As any professional sportsperson Bellew ultimately had talent and a huge amount of luck which enabled him to become very rich. Best of luck to him for achieving it too.

I agree with this. The saying ‘don’t meet your heroes’ is bang on as many aren’t nice/clever/polite etc etc. They may just be a good actor, singer, athlete or whatever. I can imagine someone like Bellew going down the wrong path if it wasn’t for boxing and not being a nice bloke to be on the wrong side of. As a fighter I think he had a decent career.

Kendal Holt became a radiographer which I thought was quite cool

[tonyevs]

Not sure how accurate it is he became a radiographer - last I read Holt was employed taking bloods at a medical centre for cholesterol .. I think their similarily called phlebotomist in the UK.

Still a very positive direction from his earlier bad boy days.

[SAPFO]

I like how honest he is regarding the David Haye he beat. Somebody asked him in the jungle, and he said no, no David Haye was a much better fighter than me. He is coming across very well.

Bloody hell, who remembers when he started a call of duty clan on here?

[Kilburn]

People seem to forget that before the first Haye fight that Bellew was telling everyone who would listen that Haye was not the same fighter.

There was no luck involved. He knew he would win. He knew Haye's days were numbered. He made an informed gamble that paid off.

I think when people talk about “luck” they are referring to Bellew still making a ton of money off the back of Haye’s name even though the threat level was greatly reduced. That’s regardless of what Bellew did or didn’t know beforehand.

[Ruthless-RKO]

I like how honest he is regarding the David Haye he beat. Somebody asked him in the jungle, and he said no, no David Haye was a much better fighter than me. He is coming across very well.

Then he got asked, if he beat him, hows Haye better.

He said style of fights, then gave a footy example.

If Exeter beat Man utd or Liverpool, does that make them better?

[Tarquin Tarpaulin IV]

Knobhead who got lucky at the end of his career by fighting a shot to shit Haye which made people think he was good.

Take a look at the 2017 Bellew v Haye 1 thread where nearly all 42 posts state that Bellew is going to get smashed to pieces!

[CaptainSpacerod]

I like how honest he is regarding the David Haye he beat. Somebody asked him in the jungle, and he said no, no David Haye was a much better fighter than me. He is coming across very well.

Then he got asked, if he beat him, hows Haye better.

He said style of fights, then gave a footy example.

If Exeter beat Man utd or Liverpool, does that make them better?

Fairplay to him for that, having beaten Haye twice he'd be perfectly entitled to brag about it.

It shows a degree of class that wasn't always evident in his younger days although tbf that's a charge that can be levelled at many of us

[polecateddy]

Knobhead who got lucky at the end of his career by fighting a shot to shit Haye which made people think he was good.

Take a look at the 2017 Bellew v Haye 1 thread where nearly all 42 posts state that Bellew is going to get smashed to pieces!

To be fair at the time Haye was still looking dangerous taking out self-trained Aussie imports. Bizarrely Mark De Mori is being rolled out for Filip Hrgovic on the 23rd December.

[SAPFO]

I like how honest he is regarding the David Haye he beat. Somebody asked him in the jungle, and he said no, no David Haye was a much better fighter than me. He is coming across very well.

Then he got asked, if he beat him, hows Haye better.

He said style of fights, then gave a footy example.

If Exeter beat Man utd or Liverpool, does that make them better?

Fairplay to him for that, having beaten Haye twice he'd be perfectly entitled to brag about it.

It shows a degree of class that wasn't always evident in his younger days although tbf that's a charge that can be levelled at many of us

He got himself noticed in the early days. I know Bellew posted, but didnt Cleverly also? Which resulted in the beef for the first fight? I might be imagining Clevelry posting and Bellew was maybe arguing with himself.


Some classic threads on here I tell ya.

[big lennox]

I respectfully disagree with Bellew on this point. It's not a case of styles make fights etc.

Bellew beat a Lame version of Haye who only had the full use of one leg.

Prime Haye would have got Bellew out of there inside a round, or two rounds worst case scenario.

[maverick23]

I respectfully disagree with Bellew on this point. It's not a case of styles make fights etc.

Bellew beat a Lame version of Haye who only had the full use of one leg.

Prime Haye would have got Bellew out of there inside a round, or two rounds worst case scenario.

I think Bellew has openly admitted in the past that he wouldn’t have lasted with peak Haye.

[Monzon83]

Can’t stand this bloke, he’s like every worst stereotype of the scouse gobshite.

Didn’t look that hard on the SAS show either..

[si7dog7]

Can’t stand this bloke, he’s like every worst stereotype of the scouse gobshite.

Didn’t look that hard on the SAS show either..

Seriously??

[Steveh583]

I respectfully disagree with Bellew on this point. It's not a case of styles make fights etc.

Bellew beat a Lame version of Haye who only had the full use of one leg.

Prime Haye would have got Bellew out of there inside a round, or two rounds worst case scenario.

thats not really what he said. it was more a "on any given night" kind of thing

[Steveh583]

i quite like how he pressed farage without being righteous. actually held a conversation.

[SeanBrennan]

i quite like how he pressed farage without being righteous. actually held a conversation.

missed this, what happened? not a Farage fan by any stretch so read the Michael Crick biography of him to understand him better, albeit via one lens (Crick's). How did the exchange play out?

[Steveh583]

i quite like how he pressed farage without being righteous. actually held a conversation.

missed this, what happened? not a Farage fan by any stretch so read the Michael Crick biography of him to understand him better, albeit via one lens (Crick's). How did the exchange play out?

bellew asked about brexit, farage defended his position and why he did what he did. bellew pointed out the knock on effects financially to the man on the street (food prices etc). Farage said that the rest of Europe faced the same rise. Bellew begged to differ citing a recent trip to Portugal. Very civil, no soapbox, just 2 adults having a conversation. refreshing. tonys coming off quite well, reasonable and able to laugh at himself.