CaptainSpacerod wrote: ↑21 Dec 2023, 19:21
Saudi Arabia gets a bad press but credit where it's due .... their stance on lady drivers was admirable until the recent change in the law
they are ignorant pudenda woman drivers, never let you out or say thanks when you get them out.
CaptainSpacerod wrote: ↑21 Dec 2023, 19:21
Saudi Arabia gets a bad press but credit where it's due .... their stance on lady drivers was admirable until the recent change in the law
they are ignorant pudenda woman drivers, never let you out or say thanks when you get them out.
CaptainSpacerod wrote: ↑21 Dec 2023, 19:21
Saudi Arabia gets a bad press but credit where it's due .... their stance on lady drivers was admirable until the recent change in the law
they are ignorant pudenda woman drivers, never let you out or say thanks when you get them out.
SeanBrennan wrote: ↑22 Dec 2023, 07:31
bit nauseating isn't it, like he's some mastermind - he just has lots of money.
It's the same as Man City winning the league. How on earth could they have achieved this?
There’s a bit more to it than money. City have spent less than Utd, why haven’t they won the league ?
United are a shit show and would be bankrupt if they weren't too big to fail. The difference between them is net spending within their means. City have cheated the system to spend way beyond their legitimate means and made it look legitimate while United have brought in legitimate top level revenue for decades.
It's the same as Man City winning the league. How on earth could they have achieved this?
There’s a bit more to it than money. City have spent less than Utd, why haven’t they won the league ?
United are a shit show and would be bankrupt if they weren't too big to fail. The difference between them is net spending within their means. City have cheated the system to spend way beyond their legitimate means and made it look legitimate while United have brought in legitimate top level revenue for decades.
They haven't cheated the system. If City have cheated then so have the prestigious firms of accountants and auditors hired by City, it's unrealistic to assume that firms with unblemished reputations worldwide have decided to risk their reputation by conspiring with City to fiddle the books.
The old guard don't like it up em but it's a changed world and their FFP nonsense will soon fall by the wayside, essentially it's restraint of trade
Steveh583 wrote: ↑21 Dec 2023, 14:33
I think Saudi will wipe out the premiership as the leading force in football within a decade. Predicting it now.
Well if they can convince pride marching, rainbow wearing friend of the Gay's Jordan Henderson to go out there to help "grow the game". You are probably right.
Amazing how quickly outspoken, pandering pillocks's ideals go out the window when some cash is waggled in front of their face.
It's why i thought the kneeling was a bunch of bollocks. Kneeling one day, playing in a country where hundreds of people in slavery died building football stadiums the next.
CaptainSpacerod wrote: ↑22 Dec 2023, 19:23
There’s a bit more to it than money. City have spent less than Utd, why haven’t they won the league ?
United are a shit show and would be bankrupt if they weren't too big to fail. The difference between them is net spending within their means. City have cheated the system to spend way beyond their legitimate means and made it look legitimate while United have brought in legitimate top level revenue for decades.
They haven't cheated the system. If City have cheated then so have the prestigious firms of accountants and auditors hired by City, it's unrealistic to assume that firms with unblemished reputations worldwide have decided to risk their reputation by conspiring with City to fiddle the books.
The old guard don't like it up em but it's a changed world and their FFP nonsense will soon fall by the wayside, essentially it's restraint of trade
They've been charged with 115 beaches of the rules by the FA. UEFA also charged them and found them to have broken a number of rules also despite them getting away with a number of those on a technicality. They have also had a number of sponsors that do not operate as a business. In addition, the top accountants and sometimes auditors have been found to be showing a wilful blind eye to cooking of the books or helping commit crimes, it's nothing new. PWC helped Russian oligarchs move their money to avoid sanctions, all four signed off on cooked books for Carillion, EY covered up money laundering in Dubai, all the big regulated banks have facilitated money laundering and terrorist financing, law firms will facilitate the lot. Accountants help people evade tax on a daily basis, that's nothing new. Juventus got caught, City have been caught... Also, bear in mind that not all of the charges will be criminal, just against the FA rules so it won't be criminal to assist on circumnavigating those rules. You're deluded if you thi K City have acted legitimately over the past 15 years.
CaptainSpacerod wrote: ↑22 Dec 2023, 19:23
There’s a bit more to it than money. City have spent less than Utd, why haven’t they won the league ?
United are a shit show and would be bankrupt if they weren't too big to fail. The difference between them is net spending within their means. City have cheated the system to spend way beyond their legitimate means and made it look legitimate while United have brought in legitimate top level revenue for decades.
They haven't cheated the system. If City have cheated then so have the prestigious firms of accountants and auditors hired by City, it's unrealistic to assume that firms with unblemished reputations worldwide have decided to risk their reputation by conspiring with City to fiddle the books
you don't know much about the accounting trade mate
the top accountancy firms get hammered with fines by the regulator on such a regular basis, it's clear to anyone who knows what they are looking at that the fines are just treated by them as an inevitable cost of doing business.
the fines are basically for doing exactly what you outline- fiddling the books to get the 'right' result for the clients- they get hammered with multimillion £ fines on a regular basis.
The UK’s Financial Reporting Council (FRC) fined auditors a record £33.3m in the year running up to 30 September 2022, new figures from Thomson Reuters Confirmation shows. The record high sum marks a 77 per cent increase on the £18.7m fines – after discounts and adjustments – handed out in the previous year.
United are a shit show and would be bankrupt if they weren't too big to fail. The difference between them is net spending within their means. City have cheated the system to spend way beyond their legitimate means and made it look legitimate while United have brought in legitimate top level revenue for decades.
They haven't cheated the system. If City have cheated then so have the prestigious firms of accountants and auditors hired by City, it's unrealistic to assume that firms with unblemished reputations worldwide have decided to risk their reputation by conspiring with City to fiddle the books
you don't know much about the accounting trade mate
the top accountancy firms get hammered with fines by the regulator on such a regular basis, it's clear to anyone who knows what they are looking at that the fines are just treated by them as an inevitable cost of doing business.
the fines are basically for doing exactly what you outline- fiddling the books to get the 'right' result for the clients- they get hammered with multimillion £ fines on a regular basis.
The UK’s Financial Reporting Council (FRC) fined auditors a record £33.3m in the year running up to 30 September 2022, new figures from Thomson Reuters Confirmation shows. The record high sum marks a 77 per cent increase on the £18.7m fines – after discounts and adjustments – handed out in the previous year.
Glad someone else knows what they're talking about. The top regulated firms, financial and accounting, all have huge pots set away for the fines because they know they'll make more money from their clients to cover that in the long run.
the exact reason 'prestigious' organisations use these firms is the expectation of getting a bit of, uh, 'understanding' from the accountant.
They are big enough that they can afford the massive increases in professional indemnity insurance that go along with sanctions from the regulators.
Below a certain level firms have to play straight because they literally couldn't afford to do otherwise, PI-wise.
again, the very biggest firms can treat the extra costs of PI just like the fines from the regulators, as just the cost of doing business- which they pass on to their very rich clients, who know and accept that they pay over the odds, and why.
CaptainSpacerod wrote: ↑22 Dec 2023, 23:29
They haven't cheated the system. If City have cheated then so have the prestigious firms of accountants and auditors hired by City, it's unrealistic to assume that firms with unblemished reputations worldwide have decided to risk their reputation by conspiring with City to fiddle the books
you don't know much about the accounting trade mate
the top accountancy firms get hammered with fines by the regulator on such a regular basis, it's clear to anyone who knows what they are looking at that the fines are just treated by them as an inevitable cost of doing business.
the fines are basically for doing exactly what you outline- fiddling the books to get the 'right' result for the clients- they get hammered with multimillion £ fines on a regular basis.
The UK’s Financial Reporting Council (FRC) fined auditors a record £33.3m in the year running up to 30 September 2022, new figures from Thomson Reuters Confirmation shows. The record high sum marks a 77 per cent increase on the £18.7m fines – after discounts and adjustments – handed out in the previous year.
Glad someone else knows what they're talking about. The top regulated firms, financial and accounting, all have huge pots set away for the fines because they know they'll make more money from their clients to cover that in the long run.
exactly
the idea that the figures must be correct because some big accountant was involved is hilarious.
the fees they charge and the ways they find to bump the fee up are insane, and the fees aren't created by paying their people *that* much more than industry standard, it's all the built-in costs of 'being a big firm'. Its a fvcking game, the client knows they are being overcharged but they pay for it anyway, for the 'other benefits' that the 'prestigious' accountants bring to the table.
MightyWarrior wrote: ↑23 Dec 2023, 13:14
I’d definitely be calling him your Excellency, as opposed to getting strangled to death by his attaché and chainsawed into small pieces by his doctor.
I'd be loudest cheerleader, bet they're getting paid so well
they are ignorant pudenda woman drivers, never let you out or say thanks when you get them out.
