Ben Davison - Should AJ keep him in the corner?

Should AJ keep Ben Davison in the corner?

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SAPFO
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Ben Davison - Should AJ keep him in the corner?

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After the positive performance, considering the opposition on Saturday night, simply, should AJ continue as it is with Ben Davison in the corner?
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Yes, I rated Davison before he joined Josh and I still rate him.
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I think he should, they seem to be working very well together, and Ben said he has fit in so well. Davison's clearly making AJ a happy fighter.
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Ben seems an unbelievable motivator
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Definitely.

I'm glad to see those idiot posters who called him Boxersize Ben have changed their tune.
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We make fun of his cocky interviews but he certainly has reason to be cocky given his record.
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Impossible to say for me.

I don’t know if he’s improved him or if Joshua knew Wallin was completely made for him & couldn’t hurt him after having him in for sparring & beating him as an amateur.

There were a couple of times where Wallin landed counters & I just thought if that’s someone with a bit of power he’s in trouble there.
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Haven't rated him as a trainer but if it ain't broke, why fix it?
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Steveh583 wrote: 25 Dec 2023, 12:16 Ben seems an unbelievable motivator
And sometimes that's all what's needed.

Boxercise-Ben isn't able to teach Joshua new skills, or give him a masterful game plan. But giving him the confidence to just put it on an opponent may just be enough if it's limited opposition like Wallin in front of him.

But he'll need someone more tactically astute for Hrg or he loses widely again
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Boxercise and Tesco will always be that
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Coco wrote: 25 Dec 2023, 17:03 Boxercise and Tesco will always be that
Honestly did'nt see any great improvement in AJ , he was a bit more aggressive , but heh , has pointed out by someone else , he's beat him in he ameteurs and sparred him , he knew excatly what Wallin was like perfect opponent . Ben can't each AJ anything they may has well carry on together , next fight there coming off a win , opponent will not be great , confidence will be hgh and if AJ loses Ben will find himself carrying the blame and up the road
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coneye wrote: 25 Dec 2023, 17:10
Coco wrote: 25 Dec 2023, 17:03 Boxercise and Tesco will always be that
Honestly did'nt see any great improvement in AJ , he was a bit more aggressive , but heh , has pointed out by someone else , he's beat him in he ameteurs and sparred him , he knew excatly what Wallin was like perfect opponent . Ben can't each AJ anything they may has well carry on together , next fight there coming off a win , opponent will not be great , confidence will be hgh and if AJ loses Ben will find himself carrying the blame and up the road
AJ, Fury, BJS and Taylor had him for a reason, his resume stacks up better than McGuigan.

But I'll always call him boxercise :yay:
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Maybe he won't be able to teach him much more than he knows, but if he can help instill self belief and confidence he should definitely stick with him becuase that's all he needs.
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882440 wrote: 25 Dec 2023, 16:03
Steveh583 wrote: 25 Dec 2023, 12:16 Ben seems an unbelievable motivator
And sometimes that's all what's needed.

Boxercise-Ben isn't able to teach Joshua new skills, or give him a masterful game plan. But giving him the confidence to just put it on an opponent may just be enough if it's limited opposition like Wallin in front of him.

But he'll need someone more tactically astute for Hrg or he loses widely again
And yet Ben was hired by master boxer Haney to devise strategies for world title fights.

I think there’s a bit more to him than just motivating and instilling confidence in fighters.
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Best he's looked for 5 years so yes definitely.
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Unless he’s going back to Rob McCracken, why would he?
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jwfg wrote: 25 Dec 2023, 12:20 Definitely.

I'm glad to see those idiot posters who called him Boxersize Ben have changed their tune.
I disagree. One of the reasons boxing is a minority sport now is because we just do not have experienced and knowledgeable trainers any more imo. Trainers nowadays are more like personal trainers,we have to be honest here. No disrespect to the Davidson's and Shane McGuigans of this world but they are no Manny Stewards or Eddie Futches. And there are just not enough quality fighters around to continually test each and improve each other.
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Bercli wrote: 26 Dec 2023, 13:39
jwfg wrote: 25 Dec 2023, 12:20 Definitely.

I'm glad to see those idiot posters who called him Boxersize Ben have changed their tune.
I disagree. One of the reasons boxing is a minority sport now is because we just do not have experienced and knowledgeable trainers any more imo. Trainers nowadays are more like personal trainers,we have to be honest here. No disrespect to the Davidson's and Shane McGuigans of this world but they are no Manny Stewards or Eddie Futches. And there are just not enough quality fighters around to continually test each and improve each other.
All the Hall of Fame trainers were young once. If you can't see what a great job Ben's done for various fighters over the years, you're either biased or in need of new glasses.
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Davison's cv speaks for itself, he's a bit cringe but so is Joshua, you have to be into all that inspirational quotes stuff to buy into it but AJ definitely the type to embrace it, whatever floats your boat I suppose, it's like when Teddy Atlas gets all Rocky in the corner spouting garbage about firemen, the sort of stuff gees people up, I'd prefer some clear instructions personally but horses for courses
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jwfg wrote: 26 Dec 2023, 14:17
Bercli wrote: 26 Dec 2023, 13:39
jwfg wrote: 25 Dec 2023, 12:20 Definitely.

I'm glad to see those idiot posters who called him Boxersize Ben have changed their tune.
I disagree. One of the reasons boxing is a minority sport now is because we just do not have experienced and knowledgeable trainers any more imo. Trainers nowadays are more like personal trainers,we have to be honest here. No disrespect to the Davidson's and Shane McGuigans of this world but they are no Manny Stewards or Eddie Futches. And there are just not enough quality fighters around to continually test each and improve each other.
All the Hall of Fame trainers were young once. If you can't see what a great job Ben's done for various fighters over the years, you're either biased or in need of new glasses.
I agree, you can't win with the being young thing really. Shane Mcguigan gets the same. Both excellent trainers.

What Ben has in his favour too is that he has not fallen out with anyone too and is never bitter when anyone changes trainers. A good trait.
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SeanBrennan wrote: 26 Dec 2023, 14:28
jwfg wrote: 26 Dec 2023, 14:17
Bercli wrote: 26 Dec 2023, 13:39

I disagree. One of the reasons boxing is a minority sport now is because we just do not have experienced and knowledgeable trainers any more imo. Trainers nowadays are more like personal trainers,we have to be honest here. No disrespect to the Davidson's and Shane McGuigans of this world but they are no Manny Stewards or Eddie Futches. And there are just not enough quality fighters around to continually test each and improve each other.
All the Hall of Fame trainers were young once. If you can't see what a great job Ben's done for various fighters over the years, you're either biased or in need of new glasses.
I agree, you can't win with the being young thing really. Shane Mcguigan gets the same. Both excellent trainers.

What Ben has in his favour too is that he has not fallen out with anyone too and is never bitter when anyone changes trainers. A good trait.
Yeah great observation. He always leaves on good terms and seems grateful for the opportunity. Never considers himself bigger than the fighter.
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Bercli wrote: 26 Dec 2023, 13:39
jwfg wrote: 25 Dec 2023, 12:20 Definitely.

I'm glad to see those idiot posters who called him Boxersize Ben have changed their tune.
I disagree. One of the reasons boxing is a minority sport now is because we just do not have experienced and knowledgeable trainers any more imo. Trainers nowadays are more like personal trainers,we have to be honest here. No disrespect to the Davidson's and Shane McGuigans of this world but they are no Manny Stewards or Eddie Futches. And there are just not enough quality fighters around to continually test each and improve each other.
I agree with you , personal trainers is what they are especielly Davidson , OK Ok he's trained Fury , BJS , Taylor , now AJ and thats great on his resume , BUT whats he taught any of them , whats he changed in any of them for the better , Fury well he could'nt get it right against the ltd Wilder , , and would'nt listen to experienced trainers like Roach on how to aproach it , guys a personality like you say a personal trainer , my father in law would of described him well , he would off just said Bullshit baffles Brains ,, And i think importantly , who stayed with him
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Steveh583 wrote: 26 Dec 2023, 16:22
SeanBrennan wrote: 26 Dec 2023, 14:28
jwfg wrote: 26 Dec 2023, 14:17

All the Hall of Fame trainers were young once. If you can't see what a great job Ben's done for various fighters over the years, you're either biased or in need of new glasses.
I agree, you can't win with the being young thing really. Shane Mcguigan gets the same. Both excellent trainers.

What Ben has in his favour too is that he has not fallen out with anyone too and is never bitter when anyone changes trainers. A good trait.
Yeah great observation. He always leaves on good terms and seems grateful for the opportunity. Never considers himself bigger than the fighter.
definitely. And good to see, when BJS and Fury left in the past he gave thanks to then and talked up their next trainers. So refreshing to see.
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coneye wrote: 26 Dec 2023, 16:24
Bercli wrote: 26 Dec 2023, 13:39
jwfg wrote: 25 Dec 2023, 12:20 Definitely.

I'm glad to see those idiot posters who called him Boxersize Ben have changed their tune.
I disagree. One of the reasons boxing is a minority sport now is because we just do not have experienced and knowledgeable trainers any more imo. Trainers nowadays are more like personal trainers,we have to be honest here. No disrespect to the Davidson's and Shane McGuigans of this world but they are no Manny Stewards or Eddie Futches. And there are just not enough quality fighters around to continually test each and improve each other.
I agree with you , personal trainers is what they are especielly Davidson , OK Ok he's trained Fury , BJS , Taylor , now AJ and thats great on his resume , BUT whats he taught any of them , whats he changed in any of them for the better , Fury well he could'nt get it right against the ltd Wilder , , and would'nt listen to experienced trainers like Roach on how to aproach it , guys a personality like you say a personal trainer , my father in law would of described him well , he would off just said Bullshit baffles Brains ,, And i think importantly , who stayed with him
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coneye wrote: 26 Dec 2023, 16:24
Bercli wrote: 26 Dec 2023, 13:39
jwfg wrote: 25 Dec 2023, 12:20 Definitely.

I'm glad to see those idiot posters who called him Boxersize Ben have changed their tune.
I disagree. One of the reasons boxing is a minority sport now is because we just do not have experienced and knowledgeable trainers any more imo. Trainers nowadays are more like personal trainers,we have to be honest here. No disrespect to the Davidson's and Shane McGuigans of this world but they are no Manny Stewards or Eddie Futches. And there are just not enough quality fighters around to continually test each and improve each other.
I agree with you , personal trainers is what they are especielly Davidson , OK Ok he's trained Fury , BJS , Taylor , now AJ and thats great on his resume , BUT whats he taught any of them , whats he changed in any of them for the better , Fury well he could'nt get it right against the ltd Wilder , , and would'nt listen to experienced trainers like Roach on how to aproach it , guys a personality like you say a personal trainer , my father in law would of described him well , he would off just said Bullshit baffles Brains ,, And i think importantly , who stayed with him
What did Angelo Dundee teach Ali?
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