John L Sullivan - his story

[Caractacus]

yeah, saw his image on a jar of pickles in the grocery store the other week .
(his name wasn't on it but it was from an old illustration)
asked the cashier if they knew who it was, they didnt'
so I told em it was that of the first World Heavyweight Boxing Champion..

[Ambling Alp II]

-Tale of the Tape-
(1892 at age 34 y just before fighting Jim J. Corbett)

John L. Sullivan

height 5 ft 10.5 "
weight 209 lbs or 216 lbs
chest-44.5 (normal) 46.5 (expanded)
bicep 15 and seven-tenths contracted)
forearm -(left)-12 and two-tenths inches
(right)-13 inches

neck 16.5 inches
waist 38.2 inches
thigh 25 inches
calf 15 and 7/8 inches

Caractacus - Thanks for posting this.
A couple of things - Did you remember where you got all this information (including his age)?
The reason I ask is that in several places I have read that Sullivan was 34 for the Corbett fight. However, if you look at his birthday (October 15, 1858) you can see that he was only 33 when the Corbett fight took place on September 7, 1892.

Obviously not a big deal, but I have always found it interesting.
Probably more important, if the tale of the tapes are correct, then Sullivan's waist went from 34 to 38 from the Kilrain fight to the Corbett fight; indicating that he was in better shaper for Kilrain, which dos support what I have read.

[margaret thatcher]

what's the measurement on big j's cameltoe?

[Caractacus]

to quote the great Jawnel himself
"It's 12 inches long,
but I never use it as a Rule !"

[bwu]

what's the measurement on big j's cameltoe?

Dude...now I can never unsee this.

[margaret thatcher]

[Caractacus]

check out who the "Mystery Fighter" is at 23:00 of this clip.

[adislav123]

to quote the great Jawnel himself
"It's 12 inches long,
but I never use it as a Rule !"

ruler?

[1108788]

-Tale of the Tape-

Jake Kilrain

height 5 ft 10 "
weight 210 lbs
chest 41 inches

biceps 16 inches
forearm 14 inches

waist 34 inches
thigh 25 inches
calf 16.5 inches

shoe size-size 9
glove size no.9
coller size 17 "

I found this other Tale of the Tape of Sullivan from 1979 Ring Record Book:

Height......... 5'10¼"
Weight.........196 lbs
Reach..........74 in.
Chest, Nor... 43 in
Chest, Exp.. 48 in.
Waist.......... 36 in.
Biceps.........16¼ in.
Neck............18 in.
Wrist............ 8 in.
Calf..............16 in.
Ankle........... 9 in.
Thigh........... 24 in.
Fist...............14 in.
Forearm.......13 in.

His fist size seems to have changed drastically, I wonder when these were taken. What's the source for those measurements?

[Caractacus]

John Sullivan's or Jake Kilrains fist ?
I think the source I got that from was
John L. Sullivan's autobiography
AMERICAN GLADIATOR
which was published just before his fight with Corbett..

[Caractacus]

-Tale of the Tape-
(1892 at age 34 y just before fighting Jim J. Corbett)

John L. Sullivan

height 5 ft 10.5 "
weight 209 lbs or 216 lbs
chest-44.5 (normal) 46.5 (expanded)
bicep 15 and seven-tenths contracted)
forearm -(left)-12 and two-tenths inches
(right)-13 inches

neck 16.5 inches
waist 38.2 inches
thigh 25 inches
calf 15 and 7/8 inches