Joshua vs Ngannou - 9th March 2024

[Les Norton]

fornicate this must feel good for nganu. Pretty huge balls to walk away from UFC, and to get 2 mega fights in boxing strait away is crazy.

100%.
Is there any word on the purses for this one?

[joshj909]

fornicate this must feel good for nganu. Pretty huge balls to walk away from UFC, and to get 2 mega fights in boxing strait away is crazy.

If he puts up a good enough showing against Joshua, he might even get a third fight against someone like Wilder as well.

[skanksta]

Good for Nag - he deserves it.

This fight is genius for all concerned.

[gregregegg]

fornicate this must feel good for nganu. Pretty huge balls to walk away from UFC, and to get 2 mega fights in boxing strait away is crazy.

If he puts up a good enough showing against Joshua, he might even get a third fight against someone like Wilder as well.

Fury, AJ, Wilder, char, king pin, martz… just keep going down the line till he gets a Win…

[Lackeos]

fornicate this must feel good for nganu. Pretty huge balls to walk away from UFC, and to get 2 mega fights in boxing strait away is crazy.

If he puts up a good enough showing against Joshua, he might even get a third fight against someone like Wilder as well.

If he puts up a good showing against Fury and Joshua, then he DESERVES another big fight. Because someone like Parker or Whyte would just get dominated against that level of competition. Go check on how Joshua - Parker went. That's what the average Boxrec poster is not getting, is that Ngannou performed better than most top 15 contenders would have. Ngannou literally performed better than Wilder and Klitschko did.

[Finkel]

It's almost like Fury isn't the same fighter in 2015 and 2023

[The Asleep Lamps]

If Ngannou could beat Joshua then doesn't he become the frontrunner to face the winner of Fury vs Usyk? Assuming there's no rematch. Because taking out Joshua would be like taking out the number one contender.

[SportsRatings]

fornicate this must feel good for nganu. Pretty huge balls to walk away from UFC, and to get 2 mega fights in boxing strait away is crazy.

If he puts up a good enough showing against Joshua, he might even get a third fight against someone like Wilder as well.

If he puts up a good showing against Fury and Joshua, then he DESERVES another big fight. Because someone like Parker or Whyte would just get dominated against that level of competition. Go check on how Joshua - Parker went. That's what the average Boxrec poster is not getting, is that Ngannou performed better than most top 15 contenders would have. Ngannou literally performed better than Wilder and Klitschko did.

And I'm still stunned by the people calling this "easy KO" for Joshua. Ngannou is an easy KO for nobody. His chin is pretty solid. Not saying he can't be knocked out but it never happened in the UFC with lighter gloves and even Fury's elbow didn't put him down.

He might lose a wide decision to Joshua but I'm betting he doesn't get stopped. Same thing I said before the Fury fight, while everyone was saying "Fury ends this any time he wants to"

[big lennox]

If he puts up a good enough showing against Joshua, he might even get a third fight against someone like Wilder as well.

If he puts up a good showing against Fury and Joshua, then he DESERVES another big fight. Because someone like Parker or Whyte would just get dominated against that level of competition. Go check on how Joshua - Parker went. That's what the average Boxrec poster is not getting, is that Ngannou performed better than most top 15 contenders would have. Ngannou literally performed better than Wilder and Klitschko did.

And I'm still stunned by the people calling this "easy KO" for Joshua. Ngannou is an easy KO for nobody. His chin is pretty solid. Not saying he can't be knocked out but it never happened in the UFC with lighter gloves and even Fury's elbow didn't put him down.

He might lose a wide decision to Joshua but I'm betting he doesn't get stopped. Same thing I said before the Fury fight, while everyone was saying "Fury ends this any time he wants to"

I agree. Ngannou looked tough as old boots in the Fury fight. Plus he looked very calm in there, certainly not overwhelmed by the occasion. I actually don't think Fury was as bad as people say. He threw some good shots in there, it was Ngannou's strength, durability, punch power and timing that was the problem.

I had completely written Ngannou off in the build up to the fight but got nervous for Fury when I saw Ngannou warming up in the changing room on fight night: he looked like he knew what he was doing.

[pound per pound]

Anthony Joshua does NOT care about the IBF belt nor Filip Hrgovic, that's just BS talk by Ed and co. A lot of you guys fell for the narrative AGAIN LOL.


I personally think Hrgovic and Zhang can both KO Joshua (Eddie knows it)

^^^ This.

[omalley]

Anthony Joshua does NOT care about the IBF belt nor Filip Hrgovic, that's just BS talk by Ed and co. A lot of you guys fell for the narrative AGAIN LOL.

I personally think Hrgovic and Zhang can both KO Joshua (Eddie knows it)

^^^ This.

I think Joshua cares A LOT about the belts. He might prefer to take some easy route, but he really wants to be champion again, that's for sure.
And I think that very slow Hrgovic is tailor made for Joshua.

[jamesmcdonnell]

If he puts up a good enough showing against Joshua, he might even get a third fight against someone like Wilder as well.

If he puts up a good showing against Fury and Joshua, then he DESERVES another big fight. Because someone like Parker or Whyte would just get dominated against that level of competition. Go check on how Joshua - Parker went. That's what the average Boxrec poster is not getting, is that Ngannou performed better than most top 15 contenders would have. Ngannou literally performed better than Wilder and Klitschko did.

And I'm still stunned by the people calling this "easy KO" for Joshua. Ngannou is an easy KO for nobody. His chin is pretty solid. Not saying he can't be knocked out but it never happened in the UFC with lighter gloves and even Fury's elbow didn't put him down.

He might lose a wide decision to Joshua but I'm betting he doesn't get stopped. Same thing I said before the Fury fight, while everyone was saying "Fury ends this any time he wants to"

Lighter gloves don't make KO's more likely.

More padded gloves allow fighters to punch with greater force, the gloves are there to protect the fighters hands. The reason there's so many KO's from strikes in MMA is mainly because they are often terrible defensively, with their heads left hanging out to dry.

[joshj909]

If he puts up a good showing against Fury and Joshua, then he DESERVES another big fight. Because someone like Parker or Whyte would just get dominated against that level of competition. Go check on how Joshua - Parker went. That's what the average Boxrec poster is not getting, is that Ngannou performed better than most top 15 contenders would have. Ngannou literally performed better than Wilder and Klitschko did.

And I'm still stunned by the people calling this "easy KO" for Joshua. Ngannou is an easy KO for nobody. His chin is pretty solid. Not saying he can't be knocked out but it never happened in the UFC with lighter gloves and even Fury's elbow didn't put him down.

He might lose a wide decision to Joshua but I'm betting he doesn't get stopped. Same thing I said before the Fury fight, while everyone was saying "Fury ends this any time he wants to"

Lighter gloves don't make KO's more likely.

More padded gloves allow fighters to punch with greater force, the gloves are there to protect the fighters hands. The reason there's so many KO's from strikes in MMA is mainly because they are often terrible defensively, with their heads left hanging out to dry.

And it's much more difficult to block punches with MMA gloves as well as they don't cover anywhere near the amount of the target as boxing gloves do. The extra padding and slight increased weight of the gloves probably roughly averages out the impact, it's the ability to block while also trying to prevent a takedown while being wary of kicks added to the fact that they're just less skilled boxers which will make the biggest difference.

[The Asleep Lamps]

"'Lighter gloves don't make KO's more likely."
That is laughably incorrect.

[jamesmcdonnell]

"'Lighter gloves don't make KO's more likely."
That is laughably incorrect.

No, it isn't

[joshj909]

"'Lighter gloves don't make KO's more likely."
That is laughably incorrect.

Maybe with boxing gloves and obviously it depends on the wide differences in weight but it's no way as much as you think it is compared to MMA gloves.

https://www.fightmatrix.com/ufc-records ... ght-class/

Average percentage of knockouts in the UFC is probably around 30% (I'm not counting it up but the numbers are there).

https://shortboxing.com/what-percentage ... -knockout/

Average percentage of boxing match which ends in a KO is about 60+%.

Obviously those numbers don't provide all the context but it's evident there that boxing provides a higher T/KO rate, even including kicks etc. How could this be possible if boxers are both more skilled offensively and defensively yet their gloves make it so much more difficult to knock an opponent out?

[gregregegg]

Too many factors to untangle in mma vs boxing ko rates….

UFC is 90% even fights boxing is 90% miss matches.

Plus ufc has to split results of stopped fights between sub and KO, many fighters submitted would have been KOd had submissions not existed.

Smaller gloves probably help KO someone, but so does grippy shoes…

Also it’s the shot you don’t see that sparks you, a lot easier to be surprised by a punch in MMA when your trying not to get your head/leg kicked off, or picked up and folded …

Manny many factors.

[Yuzo]

when something imparts its energy to something, like, say, a billiard ball hitting a billiard ball, some of that energy is yielded to its surroundings as heat or sound and some of that energy is absorbed through deformation. but since a billiard ball does not deform a whole lot more of that energy can be conserved because its not being absorbed through deformation. so since theres not a lot of deformation a billiard ball hitting a billiard ball will exchange energy better than a chunk of putty hitting a chunk of putty. thats why your car has crumple zones that are built into its frame that are designed to deform and absorb some of that kinetic energy thats being imparted to it during a car crash. more deformation consumes more kinetic energy. when you throw a punch, more padding means more deformation.

[funso banjo baby]

I thought Fury looked pretty sloppy and tired against ngannou.
As for ngannou, he was pretty slow and didn't do much at all. He just looked ok, didn't trip over his feet....but didn't really commit to anything that would win the fight.

No doubt others thought it was a thrilling fight?

On paper it was a decent performance....but the reality is that it was yet another in a long line of main events that were rubbish

I'm all about the undercards

[joshj909]

I thought Fury looked pretty sloppy and tired against ngannou.
As for ngannou, he was pretty slow and didn't do much at all. He just looked ok, didn't trip over his feet....but didn't really commit to anything that would win the fight.

No doubt others thought it was a thrilling fight?

On paper it was a decent performance....but the reality is that it was yet another in a long line of main events that were rubbish

I'm all about the undercards

It was a mostly pretty boring fight, the thing that made it great to watch and kept me hooked was the absolute surprise of Ngannou leading the fight and the "no way is he about to do it" feeling as it went on. One of those which was great to watch from a drama perspective but I will never rewatch.

[p4p1]

"'Lighter gloves don't make KO's more likely."
That is laughably incorrect.

No, it isn't

It is though.

[p4p1]

I think Ngannou is a live dog in this fight. AJ’s chin isn’t as good as Fury’s, he’s not as slick as Fury and for perhaps the first time in his career he won’t be the bigger and stronger man. We don’t know how valuable the 10 rounds against Fury was for Ngannou. Not just because Fury is class but he now knows what it takes to go 10 full rounds in boxing. It probably requires less fitness than 5 MMA rounds but it’s a huge adjustment mentally.

I didn’t expect Ngannou to go as well as he did against Fury, I thought it was an easy gimmick win for Fury. If Ngannou wasn’t for real, Fury taking him seriously and training or not would’ve embarrassed him.

Edit to add: Having said all of that I can’t forget Ngannous fight with Derrick Lewis where neither man wanted to engage because they didn’t want to risk getting knocked out. It was 5 1/2 years ago but he could do the same thing against Joshua, who also will be unwilling to take risks and give us a snooze fest.

[Sendo Takeshi]

Joe is on fire.

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Joe is on fire.

There's a reason why Joseph Parker is one of my favourite fighters.

He's a nice bloke, he fights regularly and he doesn't duck anybody.

Credit to Zhang too if this comes off, because it's a dangerous fight for both men.

[joshj909]

What a poster