Anthony Joshua vs. Deontay Wilder - Who wins?

[jamesmcdonnell]

I think this forum needs a full time counsellor, there's some right old nutjobs on here.

[quickeyg]

Anthony Joshua gets nervous when other people ask him tough questions

[BigDoofus]

I think this forum needs a full time counsellor, there's some right old nutjobs on here.

Says the fella who made up a story that Joshua had a fight signed when he ducked Fury last year.

[margaret thatcher]

f@ckin ell

[The Gratest]

John, Joe Egan's called you out. Are you going to accept or duck him like you ducked Dominic Negus?
Lot of ducking around in that family.

https://www.sportbible.com/boxing/boxin ... 5-20240117



https://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/boxin ... g-31344587

[quickeyg]

Eddie paying people to call out John is sad. Dom is a broke f**k moron clown.


It's what we call a distraction technique folks if you didn't know and ya slow.

[The Gratest]

Ooh, Dev's in a rage, he's done bold letters!
Changing the thread title as well! OMG!

[quickeyg]

Agents on this forum can't leave me alone - I'm so good at revealing the truth and pointing out the obvious.

[The Gratest]

Aye, I bet you do quite a lot of revealing, especially to your new BFF Jarrell Miller

[Coco]

I'd prefer to see Negus or Egan fight Fury than watch the YouTubers fight.

Both nice guys who never earned off boxing, I'd be happy to see them paid.

[The Gratest]

John will probably continue to pursue the Iron Mike cash spinner fantasy. Egan and Negus too dangerous to risk losing any hope of that against.
2 fights in a matter of months he'll be turning down.

[SeanBrennan]

I'd prefer to see Negus or Egan fight Fury than watch the YouTubers fight.

Both nice guys who never earned off boxing, I'd be happy to see them paid.

me too. they and Matt Legg would batter him, would love to see it.

[Ruthless-RKO]

Bob Arum: Anthony Joshua, Deontay Wilder are done, should fight each other

Legendary promoter Bob Arum believes it might be the end of Anthony Joshua following his defeat to Daniel Dubois last Saturday - unless he fights Deontay Wilder.

Joshua, 34, was knocked out in five by the 27-year-old Dubois in an all British affair at Wembley Stadium for the IBF heavyweight championship. In a thrilling encounter, Dubois dominated and recorded a deserved one-sided win over Joshua to end the latter’s dream of becoming a three-time champ.

In an interview with Fight Hub TV, the Hall of Fame promoter Arum said the defeat could sound the final bell on Joshua’s career.

“No, you don't have an off night getting out of you that way,” said Arum. “I just think AJ has been through a lot of wars. I think it's over for him as well as over for [Deontay] Wilder.”

Wilder, a former WBC heavyweight titlist, has managed just one win in his last five fights which include losses to Joseph Parker, Zhilei Zhang and two to Tyson Fury.

After losing twice to Oleksandr Usyk, Joshua recorded a four-fight winning streak before the defeat to Dubois. A showdown with Wilder would still do big business.

“Maybe they can fight each other,” Arum said, “that'd be good.”

[jamesmcdonnell]

If AJ fights the way he fought Dubois - a good chance he gets sparked, but worth remembering, Wilder's not looked at all good himself, and there were signs he couldn't pull the trigger against Parker.

[NazNaci1]

AJ would still spark Wilder and would do it quick. At their peaks, would still have picked AJ to win by KO.

Wilder, at his peak, was not all that good and now, he has regressed a lot, lot more.

AJ KO and fairly quickly.

[keithmoonhangover]

f@ckin ell

At least he's consistent.

[Ruthless-RKO]

Deontay Wilder is set to continue fighting

Wilder, 39, has lost four out of his last five fights dating back to 2020, but the knockout artist still has some fight left in him.

“He definitely wants to fight again, for sure,” Wilder’s trainer Malik Scott told BS at the Brickhouse Boxing Club, where Scott coaches. “Some good things should be coming up in 2025. For now, Deontay has just been resting and focusing on family and his businesses. When you are in the second half of your career and in high-level fights against bigger guys, rest is just as important as ripping and running.”

In his last fight in June, the “Bronze Bomber” Wilder (43-4-1, 42 KOs) was knocked out by Zhilei Zhang in five rounds. In December, the Tuscaloosa, Alabama native suffered a unanimous decision loss to Joseph Parker. In both fights, Wilder was reluctant to unleash his devastating right hand.

“I don't know, he just couldn't pull the trigger,” Scott said of Wilder’s performance against Zhang. “At the end of the day, he's human. He went in there and tried his best and lived to fight another day … Sometimes the actual opponents are the problem. People don't like to say that. They'd rather say everything Deontay or I didn't do. That takes away the credit from the opponent and their trainers and what they bring to the table. Was Deontay supposed to win those fights? Absolutely. But this is heavyweight boxing and things happen. That's boxing. That's life. Sometimes things don't go according to plan and you have to give credit to the opponent and come back better and stronger.”

Scott said comeback fights for Wilder against Anthony Joshua, Andy Ruiz Jnr and Jarrell Miller would all be ideal.

“People love seeing Deontay Wilder fight,” said Scott. “The AJ fight may not be as juicy as it once was when they were both undefeated but it's still a juicy fight.

“The heavyweight division is alive and breathing right now but it could be a lot better. There are just like five guys in the division that are in high demand right now. It’s about what Turki Alalshikh believes and what the fans want to see.”

Scott, a former heavyweight contender who tallied a record of 38-3-1 from 2000 to 2016, also relayed a message to those who insist Wilder and Joshua should retire following brutal knockout losses and rough wars in recent years.

“Just shut up and enjoy the show,” said Scott. “If you really want them to retire, don’t tune in when they fight. Don’t pay your hard-earned money and go to the fight. It’s just the hypocrisy of boxing fans, I guess you can say. I understand all aspects of it. I understand the fans, fighters, managers and promoters. We all have a perspective, but be respectful of the fighters.”

[keithmoonhangover]

I'd definitely still watch this one. Winner steps up, loser surely retires. Surely.

[quickeyg]

Poor Anthony Joshua, things are bad

[keithmoonhangover]

Poor Anthony Joshua, things are bad

quickeyg, do you ever engage in any discussions about boxing? How about we debate Kenshiro Teraji?

[Nightmare Roy]

Poor Anthony Joshua, things are bad

Hear he's down to his last £150 million.

[golden_labrador]

If AJ fights the way he fought Dubois - a good chance he gets sparked, but worth remembering, Wilder's not looked at all good himself, and there were signs he couldn't pull the trigger against Parker.

just AJ's luck Wilder accidentally remembers how to pull the trigger again and blam. but I see a replica of the AJ-Ngannou fight in all likelihood (i.e. Joshua knocking out someone who can't really box)

[coneye]

Think after watching both in the last couple years , its safe to say , The first one who landed

[golden_labrador]

what are the odds on this fight actually happening?

[Ruthless-RKO]

Matchroom target Deontay Wilder for Anthony Joshua

It feels like we've been here before, and many times, but Matchroom have again voiced their desire to match Anthony Joshua with Deontay Wilder.

The pair were linked with a fight to decide the undisputed champion when both men held all variations of the heavyweight titles in 2018-19. The failure to agree to what would have been one of the biggest fights in boxing history saw both take different routes. Wilder would ultimately lose his WBC belt to Tyson Fury and endured defeats to Andy Ruiz Jnr (avenged) and Oleksandr Usyk (not avenged).

Joshua and Wilder have not fought since knockout defeats last year to Daniel Dubois and Zhilei Zhang respectively.

Speculation over the return of Joshua started last week when the heavyweight’s promoter Eddie Hearn revealed to Boxing Scene that Joshua was in talks with Riyadh Season over a two-fight deal after having surgery on an injured elbow. The likes of Dillian Whyte and Jared Anderson were among the names discussed for a bout that would likely land in Autumn. Whyte was due to have a run out on this Saturday’s card in Ipswich, England - topped by Fabio Wardley and Justis Huni - but Whyte was pulled with a “major fight” announcement seemingly imminent.

“[It’s] not Anthony Joshua, but I hear they've got a big fight lined up for him,” Matchroom CEO, Frank Smith told BS. “Look, Dillian Whyte is a big name in the sport, we all know that and whatever it is, I’m excited to hear.”

So with Whyte seemingly out of the picture as an opponent for Joshua’s return, Smith was asked who would likely be in the opposing corner.

“I personally like the Deontay Wilder fight myself, I think there's so much narrative there,” Smith said. “He's got a comeback fight I think next month or this month and that's a massive fight. AJ's in a great position, he's still commercially the biggest draw in the sport I believe... but we've got to make the right decision and this is the biggest decision he'll make of his career. So, get back in the gym, get 100 per cent, and then we'll go for it.”