Beterbiev and the Atypical VADA result

[omalley]

In athletics, cycling, soccer and triathlon probably the Beterbiev result would be more serious

... or probably not. Because we don't know anything specific about the Beterbiev result. It's a mere speculation, nothing more.

Boxing and UFC are more obviously in the cowboy zone and people get away with a lot more.

The NBA, NFL, NHL... are obviously in their own very comfortable zones.

[tonyevs]

watched the interview with dom ingle about this , he seems to know about this stuff so i'll go by what he says , he said them readings were a narural hormone that can be incresed by diet and or excercise where was he tested don;t think they gave him 24 hyrs to show at thyere office , could of been the gym after excercise , whatever does'nt matter apparantly its a natural thing ,,, But he said something else excatly what i've been trying to say here ,, BB did'nt turn into a monster overnight , he's been one for the last 20 fights ,so i wil add , its just that this was a real easy fight for him

I like Dom Ingle, and he often has good level opinions. However, lets not forget what he is, and more importantly what he isn`t.

Dom is a very well respected boxing coach with bags and bags of fight game knowledge. Yes he knows a bit too about lifting weights and healthy eating, and additionally he can also knock a half acceptable tune out on his guitar too.
But he has not done a single day of higher education that would make him some sort of authority on the topic on physiology that would give his opinion on Beterbievs test result more than anyone here.

Your correct - Beterbiev has been a monster for over 20 years. That he remains one whilst knocking 40 years old raises an eyebrow with this VADA result being flagged.

[cormack]

Off topic but why is AB so inactive? The bloke hardly fights, he's been a pro 11 years and only had 20 fights. If you take it from 2017 he's had 9 fights in 8 years! Has he had injuries, I can't say I know too much about him.

2024 = 1 fight (so far)
2023 = 1 fight
2022 = 1 fight
2021 = 2 fights
2020 = 0
2019 = 2 fights
2018 = 1 fight
2017 = 1 fight
2016 = 2 fights
2015 = 2 fights
2014 = 4 fights
2013 = 3 fights

plenty time to go pedalling

[margaret thatcher]

over the last 5 years a lot of inactivity for many top rated lhws, not just bert. he's actually been more active than callum


callum
2024 = 1
2023 = 0
2022 = 1
2021 =1
2020 = 1

bivol
2024 = 0
2023 = 1
2022 =2
2021 =2
2020 = 0

buatsi
2024 = 0
2023 = 1
2022 =1
2021 = 2
2020 = 1

gvodzyk
2024 = 0
2023 = 3
retired 2020-22

ramirez (now cruiser)
2024 = 0
2023 = 1
2022 =2
2021 = 2
2020 = 1
2019 = 1

joe smith (now cruiser)
2024 = 0
2023 = 1
2022 =2
2021 = 2
2017-2020 = 1 fight a year

[coneye]

well if he is , I suppose he's shown how to do it , if he is'nt its all the same , with or without , he's too skillful , so if were gonna hang him for being guilty based on the assumption there all at it , well we must assume the same for Smith , so therefore if him and Smith are at it ,, Smith still was a far far lower level , thats wether they both did or did'nt . like i said if your guilty by assumption there all guilty

[rhino222]

watched the interview with dom ingle about this , he seems to know about this stuff so i'll go by what he says , he said them readings were a narural hormone that can be incresed by diet and or excercise where was he tested don;t think they gave him 24 hyrs to show at thyere office , could of been the gym after excercise , whatever does'nt matter apparantly its a natural thing ,,, But he said something else excatly what i've been trying to say here ,, BB did'nt turn into a monster overnight , he's been one for the last 20 fights ,so i wil add , its just that this was a real easy fight for him

I like Dom Ingle, and he often has good level opinions. However, lets not forget what he is, and more importantly what he isn`t.

Dom is a very well respected boxing coach with bags and bags of fight game knowledge. Yes he knows a bit too about lifting weights and healthy eating, and additionally he can also knock a half acceptable tune out on his guitar too.
But he has not done a single day of higher education that would make him some sort of authority on the topic on physiology that would give his opinion on Beterbievs test result more than anyone here.

Your correct - Beterbiev has been a monster for over 20 years. That he remains one whilst knocking 40 years old raises an eyebrow with this VADA result being flagged.

Some people mature more academically as they get older. I feel Dom is one of these guys. At school you have to learn multiple subjects, in life, after school, you can specialise, and Dom does this.

he is very knowledgeable with health, nutrition, anatomy and physiology and associated science. he can hold a conversation in a high level of company on the subjects. His opinions are based on sound knowledge, so its up to you if you want to listen.

The BBBC could well do with having 'advisors' on board to help them unscramble the PED jigsaws.

[omalley]

over the last 5 years a lot of inactivity for many top rated lhws, not just bert. he's actually been more active than callum

From your list:
Oleksandr Gvozdyk have not done anything significant at LHW since 2018.
Callum Smith and Gilberto Ramirez have not done anything significant at LHW ever.
Joshua Buatsi... We'll find out in less than 2 weeks if he is really top boxer at LHW.

[SeanBrennan]

over the last 5 years a lot of inactivity for many top rated lhws, not just bert. he's actually been more active than callum

From your list:
Oleksandr Gvozdyk have not done anything significant at LHW since 2018.
Callum Smith and Gilberto Ramirez have not done anything significant at LHW ever.
Joshua Buatsi... We'll find out in less than 2 weeks if he is really top boxer at LHW.

I think Buatsi is despite the slow career to date. But time will tell....

[margaret thatcher]

1 fight a year is pretty common these days among world rated guys. see above and also wilder, fury, usyk,, crawford, etc. it's like dudes are becoming gary russell

[omalley]

1 fight a year is pretty common these days among world rated guys. see above and also wilder, fury, usyk,, crawford, etc. it's like dudes are becoming gary russell

It cost Crawford FOTY award. Big respect to Joseph Parker though.

[SeanBrennan]

dya mean fighting once a year will cost him the FOTY award?