So does Joe Parker?

[si7dog7]

Completely dispel the Wilder nonsense?
Fury beating this so called “biggest puncher”?
Fury got tagged a few times. And downed.
Joe was a bit more wise..

Is it that easy?

Me thinks a master boxer like Uysk has a few game plans.

Fury is now outta my top 40 all time.

Great salesman though

[Delta Jay]

Wilders highlight reel proves he’s at least got something. He may have got old overnight and Parker may have had the perfect camp for him and had a perfect gameplan.

Fury is obviously very very very good at boxing and has been quite dominant for a few years now.


No need to start reconsidering whole careers

[omalley]

If Fury becomes an undisputed champion, nobody will talk about Wilder-Parker fight.

[leejonesjnr]

Fury is obviously very very very good at boxing and has been quite dominant for a few years now.

It’s fqing mad that people say things like this and mean it.

[joshj909]

Wilders highlight reel proves he’s at least got something. He may have got old overnight and Parker may have had the perfect camp for him and had a perfect gameplan.

Fury is obviously very very very good at boxing and has been quite dominant for a few years now.


No need to start reconsidering whole careers

Against who? Even Mark De Mori has KO'd 36 bums.

[SeanBrennan]

Wilders highlight reel proves he’s at least got something. He may have got old overnight and Parker may have had the perfect camp for him and had a perfect gameplan.

Fury is obviously very very very good at boxing and has been quite dominant for a few years now.


No need to start reconsidering whole careers

Against who? Even Mark De Mori has KO'd 36 bums.

all the greats learned their craft from watching YouTube.

[a force]

Wilder’s 38 & inactive. I don’t think him looking terrible recently has any bearing on the Fury fights

[SeanBrennan]

Wilder’s 38 & inactive. I don’t think him looking terrible recently has any bearing on the Fury fights

it will be interesting to see how he responds indeed if he fights at all. Do you think he is done? I've no idea, I hope he fights on tho, would love to see him vs AJ.

[Delta Jay]

Wilders highlight reel proves he’s at least got something. He may have got old overnight and Parker may have had the perfect camp for him and had a perfect gameplan.

Fury is obviously very very very good at boxing and has been quite dominant for a few years now.


No need to start reconsidering whole careers

Against who? Even Mark De Mori has KO'd 36 bums.

all the greats learned their craft from watching YouTube.

[Delta Jay]

Wilders highlight reel proves he’s at least got something. He may have got old overnight and Parker may have had the perfect camp for him and had a perfect gameplan.

Fury is obviously very very very good at boxing and has been quite dominant for a few years now.


No need to start reconsidering whole careers

Against who? Even Mark De Mori has KO'd 36 bums.

Come on man, his power is undeniable. Absolutely snoozed many tough man

Wilder hits hard and Fury is tough. No need to reevaluate

[SeanBrennan]

Wilder is indeed a proper champ and foe, no need to revise him so much.

[margaret thatcher]

the best 3 guys wilder's beat are ortiz (major struggle), stiverne, and dom breazeale. in his prime he lost loads of rounds to mediocre opponents like art szpilka and was hurt by eric molina. it's not reinventing things to say he's got a record built on quantity and not quality. not much hard evidence he was ever much better than joe parker

del chisora wouldve beat pretty much every wilder title challenger that wilder did. knocked out his trainer too

[SeanBrennan]

the best 3 guys wilder's beat are ortiz (major struggle), stiverne, and dom breazeale. in his prime he lost loads of rounds to mediocre opponents like art szpilka. it's not revisiting to say he's got a record built on quantity and not quality. not much hard evidence he was ever much better than joe parker

del chisora wouldve beat pretty much every wilder title challenger that wilder did. knocked out his trainer too

nobody can say that with any certainty. And claiming Dereck would beat people is mythical, he has been beaten 13 times and utterly sparked 4 times, and allowed himself to quit against Fury. Wilder never did so.

Levels.

[margaret thatcher]

the best 3 guys wilder's beat are ortiz (major struggle), stiverne, and dom breazeale. in his prime he lost loads of rounds to mediocre opponents like art szpilka. it's not revisiting to say he's got a record built on quantity and not quality. not much hard evidence he was ever much better than joe parker

del chisora wouldve beat pretty much every wilder title challenger that wilder did. knocked out his trainer too

nobody can say that with any certainty. And claiming Dereck would beat people is mythical, he has been beaten 13 times and utterly sparked 4 times, and allowed himself to quit against Fury. Wilder never did so.

Levels.

nobody can claim what with any certainty? that wilder's record is built on quantity rather than quality? please tell me about all these top guys wilder beat......

chisora easily ko'd wilder challenger szpilka, ud's wilder challenger gerry washington, ko'd wilder opponent and trainer malik scott, and clowned wilder opponent rob helenius in a robbery of the year. these fights actually happened and chisora was the better man.

who are these wilder victims that would show the 'levels'

[margaret thatcher]

3 fights vs fury and not off his feet once baby

maybe if del got dropped 5-6 times as well people would talk about how tough and durable he is

[margaret thatcher]

oh and del did better against parker too. really, if you compare common opponents chizzy matches up well vs deontay

[SeanBrennan]

the best 3 guys wilder's beat are ortiz (major struggle), stiverne, and dom breazeale. in his prime he lost loads of rounds to mediocre opponents like art szpilka. it's not revisiting to say he's got a record built on quantity and not quality. not much hard evidence he was ever much better than joe parker

del chisora wouldve beat pretty much every wilder title challenger that wilder did. knocked out his trainer too

nobody can say that with any certainty. And claiming Dereck would beat people is mythical, he has been beaten 13 times and utterly sparked 4 times, and allowed himself to quit against Fury. Wilder never did so.

Levels.

nobody can claim what with any certainty? that wilder's record is built on quantity rather than quality? please tell me about all these top guys wilder beat......

chisora easily ko'd wilder challenger szpilka, ud's wilder challenger gerry washington, ko'd wilder opponent and trainer malik scott, and clowned wilder opponent rob helenius in a robbery of the year. these fights actually happened and chisora was the better man.

who are these wilder victims that would show the 'levels'

Wilder won a WBC title

Chisora lost both of his attempts.

One is a winner, one a perennial loser. The latter is also a convicted sex offender. Wilder for me.

[SeanBrennan]

oh and del did better against parker too. really, if you compare common opponents chizzy matches up well vs deontay

Apart from the endless losses

[margaret thatcher]

nobody can say that with any certainty. And claiming Dereck would beat people is mythical, he has been beaten 13 times and utterly sparked 4 times, and allowed himself to quit against Fury. Wilder never did so.

Levels.

nobody can claim what with any certainty? that wilder's record is built on quantity rather than quality? please tell me about all these top guys wilder beat......

chisora easily ko'd wilder challenger szpilka, ud's wilder challenger gerry washington, ko'd wilder opponent and trainer malik scott, and clowned wilder opponent rob helenius in a robbery of the year. these fights actually happened and chisora was the better man.

who are these wilder victims that would show the 'levels'

Wilder won a WBC title

Chisora lost both of his attempts.

One is a winner, one a perennial loser. The latter is also a convicted sex offender. Wilder for me.

im not actually rating chisora over wilder, im just saying wilder's record is very padded and there's not much evidence he was ever much better than joe parker. the fact that chisora actually compares well vs common opponents to wilder is funny though

wilder won a wbc title vs blobby bermane stiverne, id have picked chisora to beat him too. much easier a champ to dethrone than vitali and fury.

not sure what the sex offender thing has to do with this, and didnt deontay strangle a prostitute btw

[margaret thatcher]

oh and del did better against parker too. really, if you compare common opponents chizzy matches up well vs deontay

Apart from the endless losses

he doesnt have endless losses vs common opponents with wilder, their records are actually quite similar

[SeanBrennan]

nobody can claim what with any certainty? that wilder's record is built on quantity rather than quality? please tell me about all these top guys wilder beat......

chisora easily ko'd wilder challenger szpilka, ud's wilder challenger gerry washington, ko'd wilder opponent and trainer malik scott, and clowned wilder opponent rob helenius in a robbery of the year. these fights actually happened and chisora was the better man.

who are these wilder victims that would show the 'levels'

Wilder won a WBC title

Chisora lost both of his attempts.

One is a winner, one a perennial loser. The latter is also a convicted sex offender. Wilder for me.

im not actually rating chisora over wilder, im just saying wilder's record is very padded and there's not much evidence he was ever much better than joe parker. the fact that chisora actually compares well vs common opponents to wilder is funny though

wilder won a wbc title vs blobby bermane stiverne, id have picked chisora to beat him too. much easier a champ to dethrone than vitali and fury.

not sure what the sex offender thing has to do with this, and didnt deontay strangle a prostitute btw

Only one of those has a criminal conviction for anything relating to such matters.

Dereck is a privileged upper class privately educated proud "Rhodesian". Wilder a common man who won an Olympic title and WBC and defended it countless times. Dereck's main achievement is being loud and articulating a worth way beyond his achievements. Dereck is a loser, Deontay is a legitimate world champion who deserves a lengthy wealthy retirement when he does. Dereck deserves CTE and Universal Credit.

[margaret thatcher]

not sure why either matters at all when discussing them as boxers? but yes wilder did strangle a prostitute since you brought up that stuff

ya, i know wilder has a bunch of wins and chisora has lots of losses, that wasnt really the point.....

[SeanBrennan]

not sure why either matters at all when discussing them as boxers? but yes wilder did strangle a prostitute since you brought up that stuff

ya, i know wilder has a bunch of wins and chisora has lots of losses, that wasnt really the point.....

send the link of a criminal conviction proving this and I will accede and apologise. Not being a smart arse.

[margaret thatcher]

i never said he had a criminal conviction. conveniently , him choking a prostitute was a 'misunderstanding' and the problem disappeared

none of this has to do with the topic anyway, i said del would beat most the challengers that wilder did, not that he was a sweetheart. wilder left himself open to these comparisons by feasting on weak opposition for so many years. molina, szpilka, washington, duhaupas, a version of arreola who couldnt even beat fred kassi, etc...

[SeanBrennan]

i never said he had a criminal conviction. conveniently , him choking a prostitute was a 'misunderstanding' and the problem disappeared

none of this has to do with the topic anyway, i said del would beat most the challengers that wilder did, not that he was a sweetheart

understood. we're creeping into the hypothetical, Dereck has lost plenty of fights he was meant to win so we can't posit that with any certainty or real substance. And Dereck was never a fighter who indicated substance to me.

And re lol'ing at an accusation disappearing, if it was one of validity, then it would have manifested itself in a charge and case. We cannot with any confidence convict or condemn people on hyperbole or rumour,

Sorry to be a stickler, but one guy has no convictions and 10 WBC title defences, as well as an Olympic belt, the other has sexual offence convictions against women, 2 defeats at world title level and a litany of pathetic losses typifying a career of excuses.