Boxing myths

[Steveh583]

you can ask me anything, of course. 39, 40 in May. I don't do heavy compounds anymore, I deadlift sporadically but never go above 220kg. I use machines. The biggest legacy strain in terms of wear and tear is my rotator cuff, did not have the surgery for it just physio, so it's something I do prehab with now, lots of stretches and little exercises to keep on top of it. Also had an imbalance in terms of pressing so much when I started training, so shoulders were rounded and that caused rear delt and upper back pain, so do a lot of face pulls and rear delt work. I stretch my hips a lot and also do a lot of hamstring work too for my back health. I've never done ice baths or cryotherapy, I do take hot bath every day for my hips (I sound ancient), and take various medications for pain management and the nerve damage - amitriptyline for the nerve damage, naproxen and tramadol for the back, and citalopram for the old noggin (been on the latter or similar for 2 decades, hence an interest in mental health). I take nothing pain med-wise for a week every 4 weeks though, and miss Sat/Sun, as I worry with the tramadol being an opioid and know it's less than ideal taking medication permanently. Also take an embarrassing spray for the heart where you have to sit or preferably lay down when you've taken it, which is comedy gold when you're at work. I have a super supportive company I work for though so feel very lucky. They know I work long hours (60+) so if I need to take time or work from home it's never an issue. If I was on a shop floor or the like I'd struggle.

I can have a spinal fusion but nobody I know who has had one, seems to have fared well and it seems to have degraded their spinal health further, so I've stuck with 2 discectomy and laminectomy surgeries and just plod on. I feel very lucky as my mate has MS so I have zero to whinge about, especially when my ailments are self inflicted from chasing a placcy trophy.

I drone on I know... :)

Fukk me that’s some strong pain medication. amitriptyline turned me into a zombie, horrible stuff. The other 2 are nice tho lol. Mate that sounds a harsh deal for so little in return. Do you feel it was worth it? What would you have done differently if you could go back? It’s fascinating hearing the ‘life after’ side of things. I watch Eddie halls channel, and he seems relatively free of injury. It that down to still being on PEDs do you think? Or is it all an act?

Hi Steve. I'm lucky enough to have done a comp where Eddie was guest star slash ref. He was lovely, had time for everyone. I would say Eddie is a genetic phenom and athlete, his body could handle the does for a period. He is still huge but a lot healthier than when he was doing WSM. Read his writings though, he talks openly how he knew after winning 1 WSM he was to retire, he knew the impact it was having on his body. He gave up natural size to others so literally pushed it to the bone to win one. And I don't just mean PEDS. I think Eddie has the mindset and ability to be brilliant at any sport or endeavour he did, I tip my hat.

Was it worth it for me? I could do the cliche "I regret nothing as it made me who I am" - but I'd be lying. I massively regret ever taking anything, it ruined my health, contributed towards end of first marriage (a gram of tren a week is not conducive to empathy). I wish I had never taken anything other than protein powder mate. I live with pain and would happily go back and do it differently. The only good thing is I am massively grateful to be alive and have very good perspective. I am always positive and am known as someone who will help anyone. And I think going through some of the physical and mental health issues from my time using and competing, has helped me to get to that.

I read in his autobiography that he'd lift until he threw up, shit himself or passed out. that cannot be good. And the sleep apnea.... did you ever experience anything like that? Do you think his swimming background was a benefit in that regard IE prepping the body? It certainly takes dedication just to eat that quantity.

Mate thats horrible that you are in pain. Glad you have such a positive outlook tho. There is a "natural" strongman who owns a gym near me who is a gorilla of a man who competed and won after breaking his neck in the army. Makes me think you guys are just built differently. I wonder if hes natural or just natural by strong man standards, What are your main concerns as you age in regard to the effects? If you stopped lifting how would it effect you physically?

[SeanBrennan]

Fukk me that’s some strong pain medication. amitriptyline turned me into a zombie, horrible stuff. The other 2 are nice tho lol. Mate that sounds a harsh deal for so little in return. Do you feel it was worth it? What would you have done differently if you could go back? It’s fascinating hearing the ‘life after’ side of things. I watch Eddie halls channel, and he seems relatively free of injury. It that down to still being on PEDs do you think? Or is it all an act?

Hi Steve. I'm lucky enough to have done a comp where Eddie was guest star slash ref. He was lovely, had time for everyone. I would say Eddie is a genetic phenom and athlete, his body could handle the does for a period. He is still huge but a lot healthier than when he was doing WSM. Read his writings though, he talks openly how he knew after winning 1 WSM he was to retire, he knew the impact it was having on his body. He gave up natural size to others so literally pushed it to the bone to win one. And I don't just mean PEDS. I think Eddie has the mindset and ability to be brilliant at any sport or endeavour he did, I tip my hat.

Was it worth it for me? I could do the cliche "I regret nothing as it made me who I am" - but I'd be lying. I massively regret ever taking anything, it ruined my health, contributed towards end of first marriage (a gram of tren a week is not conducive to empathy). I wish I had never taken anything other than protein powder mate. I live with pain and would happily go back and do it differently. The only good thing is I am massively grateful to be alive and have very good perspective. I am always positive and am known as someone who will help anyone. And I think going through some of the physical and mental health issues from my time using and competing, has helped me to get to that.

I read in his autobiography that he'd lift until he threw up, shit himself or passed out. that cannot be good. And the sleep apnea.... did you ever experience anything like that? Do you think his swimming background was a benefit in that regard IE prepping the body? It certainly takes dedication just to eat that quantity.

Mate thats horrible that you are in pain. Glad you have such a positive outlook tho. There is a "natural" strongman who owns a gym near me who is a gorilla of a man who competed and won after breaking his neck in the army. Makes me think you guys are just built differently. I wonder if hes natural or just natural by strong man standards, What are your main concerns as you age in regard to the effects? If you stopped lifting how would it effect you physically?

Evening Steve

Ah, sleep apnoea, my old friend. I knew I snored, knew I was always tired, but it was not until I met my second (and current, thankfully) wife that I knew what sleep apnoea was. She explained I woke up repeatedly choking. I was aware I was sometimes sick during the night (due to reflux from choking) but just passed it off as a side from gear (moronic I know but I had so many sides they just became another one). I went and got a referral, did the Epworth sleep assessment, then the trial they do, then got diagnosed with sleep apnoea. Got a CPAP in 2018 and it changed my life. Was weird wearing it at first but could not sleep without it now. Only bad thing is one of my cats (we have 5, we are animal bonkers) Blue knows it is my sleep thing and if he is hungry, he jabs the buttons til it it presses the one that switches it off and makes you stop breathing and wake up. The evil furbag :)

We used to train til we threw up, it was part of our training regime. I was lucky that my training partner's dad rented a unit that he kitted out as a dedicated strongman gym, a few doors down from the gym his father ran (which I still go to to this day). My training partner won England's Strongest Man Junior, 2nd at UK's Strongest Junior, 7th at World's Strongest Junior (beating current WSM Tom Stoltman on the first event) and went on to compete at a high level in Opens, so I ended up matching them for dosage if not results (deffo not results). You will not believe the dosage some of them (and I) use/d. 20 mil of gear a week, £500 a month on HGH and insulin. I also did the suicidal drop down to 105kg class after not making it in Opens so used to crash 25 kg for comps and used so many thermogenic and diuretics.

Regarding natural strongman, there are some who are genuinely natural, but most are not. I say this as a scumbag who did a few natural comps and compared piss test passing regimes.

My main concerns are not concerns per se more acknowledgements of my likely demise. I am 39. My aim is to see 50 so I can see my daughter graduate uni. She is 12 now. I can't afford her to flunk her AS or A Levels time-wise :) I have caused every single one of my ailments. I am lucky to have a well paid career and work super long hours and take consultancy work on top as I know I am not there to support them into old age. I have insurance policies that are super expensive but worth it. I'd say knowing I have limited my life expectancy considerably is the one sad thing. But I could be run over tomorrow, so embrace every single day. I do not do sad, down or moany. I don't have time or inclination mate.

[SeanBrennan]

and sorry for the morbidly melancholic post. Please move it to the "whiney man" section :)

[polecateddy]

I guess if you made a top ten of dirty sports, powerlifting and strongman would be equal 1st, followed by things like Brazilian jujitsu, presumably arm wrestling, UFC. Boxing must make the top ten. Plenty of negative press for messing around with human growth hormone in the press this week. If nothing else it should put people off playing chemistry sets with their own bodies; https://uk.news.yahoo.com/growth-hormon ... 00875.html

[SeanBrennan]

I guess if you made a top ten of dirty sports, powerlifting and strongman would be equal 1st, followed by things like Brazilian jujitsu, presumably arm wrestling, UFC. Boxing must make the top ten. Plenty of negative press for messing around with human growth hormone in the press this week. If nothing else it should put people off playing chemistry sets with their own bodies; https://uk.news.yahoo.com/growth-hormon ... 00875.html

it's the insulin use that goes along with HGH which makes it scary for me. Mess up a slin dosage you can be a goner.

[si7dog7]

and sorry for the morbidly melancholic post. Please move it to the "whiney man" section :)

Don’t apologise Sean. Just hope that your honesty is heard by others potentially on that path. If it helps just one you’ve done a good thing by telling parts of your story.
My best wishes to you.

[SeanBrennan]

and sorry for the morbidly melancholic post. Please move it to the "whiney man" section :)

Don’t apologise Sean. Just hope that your honesty is heard by others potentially on that path. If it helps just one you’ve done a good thing by telling parts of your story.
My best wishes to you.

thanks a lot Si, that means a lot mate.

[girv]

Beterbiev beats RJJ at LH imo, not exactly a detailed analysis but he's too accurate and heavy handed for Jones to handle.

I’m starting a petition to get this person banned from posting.

[Steveh583]

Hi Steve. I'm lucky enough to have done a comp where Eddie was guest star slash ref. He was lovely, had time for everyone. I would say Eddie is a genetic phenom and athlete, his body could handle the does for a period. He is still huge but a lot healthier than when he was doing WSM. Read his writings though, he talks openly how he knew after winning 1 WSM he was to retire, he knew the impact it was having on his body. He gave up natural size to others so literally pushed it to the bone to win one. And I don't just mean PEDS. I think Eddie has the mindset and ability to be brilliant at any sport or endeavour he did, I tip my hat.

Was it worth it for me? I could do the cliche "I regret nothing as it made me who I am" - but I'd be lying. I massively regret ever taking anything, it ruined my health, contributed towards end of first marriage (a gram of tren a week is not conducive to empathy). I wish I had never taken anything other than protein powder mate. I live with pain and would happily go back and do it differently. The only good thing is I am massively grateful to be alive and have very good perspective. I am always positive and am known as someone who will help anyone. And I think going through some of the physical and mental health issues from my time using and competing, has helped me to get to that.

I read in his autobiography that he'd lift until he threw up, shit himself or passed out. that cannot be good. And the sleep apnea.... did you ever experience anything like that? Do you think his swimming background was a benefit in that regard IE prepping the body? It certainly takes dedication just to eat that quantity.

Mate thats horrible that you are in pain. Glad you have such a positive outlook tho. There is a "natural" strongman who owns a gym near me who is a gorilla of a man who competed and won after breaking his neck in the army. Makes me think you guys are just built differently. I wonder if hes natural or just natural by strong man standards, What are your main concerns as you age in regard to the effects? If you stopped lifting how would it effect you physically?

Evening Steve

Ah, sleep apnoea, my old friend. I knew I snored, knew I was always tired, but it was not until I met my second (and current, thankfully) wife that I knew what sleep apnoea was. She explained I woke up repeatedly choking. I was aware I was sometimes sick during the night (due to reflux from choking) but just passed it off as a side from gear (moronic I know but I had so many sides they just became another one). I went and got a referral, did the Epworth sleep assessment, then the trial they do, then got diagnosed with sleep apnoea. Got a CPAP in 2018 and it changed my life. Was weird wearing it at first but could not sleep without it now. Only bad thing is one of my cats (we have 5, we are animal bonkers) Blue knows it is my sleep thing and if he is hungry, he jabs the buttons til it it presses the one that switches it off and makes you stop breathing and wake up. The evil furbag :)

We used to train til we threw up, it was part of our training regime. I was lucky that my training partner's dad rented a unit that he kitted out as a dedicated strongman gym, a few doors down from the gym his father ran (which I still go to to this day). My training partner won England's Strongest Man Junior, 2nd at UK's Strongest Junior, 7th at World's Strongest Junior (beating current WSM Tom Stoltman on the first event) and went on to compete at a high level in Opens, so I ended up matching them for dosage if not results (deffo not results). You will not believe the dosage some of them (and I) use/d. 20 mil of gear a week, £500 a month on HGH and insulin. I also did the suicidal drop down to 105kg class after not making it in Opens so used to crash 25 kg for comps and used so many thermogenic and diuretics.

Regarding natural strongman, there are some who are genuinely natural, but most are not. I say this as a scumbag who did a few natural comps and compared piss test passing regimes.

My main concerns are not concerns per se more acknowledgements of my likely demise. I am 39. My aim is to see 50 so I can see my daughter graduate uni. She is 12 now. I can't afford her to flunk her AS or A Levels time-wise :) I have caused every single one of my ailments. I am lucky to have a well paid career and work super long hours and take consultancy work on top as I know I am not there to support them into old age. I have insurance policies that are super expensive but worth it. I'd say knowing I have limited my life expectancy considerably is the one sad thing. But I could be run over tomorrow, so embrace every single day. I do not do sad, down or moany. I don't have time or inclination mate.

You never know mate, if you live right and keep on keeping on you may beat the system

[SeanBrennan]

I read in his autobiography that he'd lift until he threw up, shit himself or passed out. that cannot be good. And the sleep apnea.... did you ever experience anything like that? Do you think his swimming background was a benefit in that regard IE prepping the body? It certainly takes dedication just to eat that quantity.

Mate thats horrible that you are in pain. Glad you have such a positive outlook tho. There is a "natural" strongman who owns a gym near me who is a gorilla of a man who competed and won after breaking his neck in the army. Makes me think you guys are just built differently. I wonder if hes natural or just natural by strong man standards, What are your main concerns as you age in regard to the effects? If you stopped lifting how would it effect you physically?

Evening Steve

Ah, sleep apnoea, my old friend. I knew I snored, knew I was always tired, but it was not until I met my second (and current, thankfully) wife that I knew what sleep apnoea was. She explained I woke up repeatedly choking. I was aware I was sometimes sick during the night (due to reflux from choking) but just passed it off as a side from gear (moronic I know but I had so many sides they just became another one). I went and got a referral, did the Epworth sleep assessment, then the trial they do, then got diagnosed with sleep apnoea. Got a CPAP in 2018 and it changed my life. Was weird wearing it at first but could not sleep without it now. Only bad thing is one of my cats (we have 5, we are animal bonkers) Blue knows it is my sleep thing and if he is hungry, he jabs the buttons til it it presses the one that switches it off and makes you stop breathing and wake up. The evil furbag :)

We used to train til we threw up, it was part of our training regime. I was lucky that my training partner's dad rented a unit that he kitted out as a dedicated strongman gym, a few doors down from the gym his father ran (which I still go to to this day). My training partner won England's Strongest Man Junior, 2nd at UK's Strongest Junior, 7th at World's Strongest Junior (beating current WSM Tom Stoltman on the first event) and went on to compete at a high level in Opens, so I ended up matching them for dosage if not results (deffo not results). You will not believe the dosage some of them (and I) use/d. 20 mil of gear a week, £500 a month on HGH and insulin. I also did the suicidal drop down to 105kg class after not making it in Opens so used to crash 25 kg for comps and used so many thermogenic and diuretics.

Regarding natural strongman, there are some who are genuinely natural, but most are not. I say this as a scumbag who did a few natural comps and compared piss test passing regimes.

My main concerns are not concerns per se more acknowledgements of my likely demise. I am 39. My aim is to see 50 so I can see my daughter graduate uni. She is 12 now. I can't afford her to flunk her AS or A Levels time-wise :) I have caused every single one of my ailments. I am lucky to have a well paid career and work super long hours and take consultancy work on top as I know I am not there to support them into old age. I have insurance policies that are super expensive but worth it. I'd say knowing I have limited my life expectancy considerably is the one sad thing. But I could be run over tomorrow, so embrace every single day. I do not do sad, down or moany. I don't have time or inclination mate.

You never know mate, if you live right and keep on keeping on you may beat the system

thanks mate

[The Gratest]

I've enjoyed reading your frank and very open self confessed truths Sean. I've not enjoyed reading how messed up your body has become, but you appear to have reached beyond that point of denial that some have and taken responsibility for it all; perhaps a catharic release as well as now being able to help/advise others? I wish you well and hope you reach that goal of 50 years and well beyond.

[coneye]

Knew a guy was about 6' 1" maybe 2 ish , built like a beanpole , but a fit sort of fella , , did'nt see him for about 10 years , walked in a pub he was on the door and massive , think the Hulk , was told he was into and suposed some champion at power lifting , He dies not long after at 42 , i was told it was defo the roids that done it

[Fray Bentos]

Hi Steve. I'm lucky enough to have done a comp where Eddie was guest star slash ref. He was lovely, had time for everyone. I would say Eddie is a genetic phenom and athlete, his body could handle the does for a period. He is still huge but a lot healthier than when he was doing WSM. Read his writings though, he talks openly how he knew after winning 1 WSM he was to retire, he knew the impact it was having on his body. He gave up natural size to others so literally pushed it to the bone to win one. And I don't just mean PEDS. I think Eddie has the mindset and ability to be brilliant at any sport or endeavour he did, I tip my hat.

Was it worth it for me? I could do the cliche "I regret nothing as it made me who I am" - but I'd be lying. I massively regret ever taking anything, it ruined my health, contributed towards end of first marriage (a gram of tren a week is not conducive to empathy). I wish I had never taken anything other than protein powder mate. I live with pain and would happily go back and do it differently. The only good thing is I am massively grateful to be alive and have very good perspective. I am always positive and am known as someone who will help anyone. And I think going through some of the physical and mental health issues from my time using and competing, has helped me to get to that.

I read in his autobiography that he'd lift until he threw up, shit himself or passed out. that cannot be good. And the sleep apnea.... did you ever experience anything like that? Do you think his swimming background was a benefit in that regard IE prepping the body? It certainly takes dedication just to eat that quantity.

Mate thats horrible that you are in pain. Glad you have such a positive outlook tho. There is a "natural" strongman who owns a gym near me who is a gorilla of a man who competed and won after breaking his neck in the army. Makes me think you guys are just built differently. I wonder if hes natural or just natural by strong man standards, What are your main concerns as you age in regard to the effects? If you stopped lifting how would it effect you physically?

Evening Steve

Ah, sleep apnoea, my old friend. I knew I snored, knew I was always tired, but it was not until I met my second (and current, thankfully) wife that I knew what sleep apnoea was. She explained I woke up repeatedly choking. I was aware I was sometimes sick during the night (due to reflux from choking) but just passed it off as a side from gear (moronic I know but I had so many sides they just became another one). I went and got a referral, did the Epworth sleep assessment, then the trial they do, then got diagnosed with sleep apnoea. Got a CPAP in 2018 and it changed my life. Was weird wearing it at first but could not sleep without it now. Only bad thing is one of my cats (we have 5, we are animal bonkers) Blue knows it is my sleep thing and if he is hungry, he jabs the buttons til it it presses the one that switches it off and makes you stop breathing and wake up. The evil furbag :)

We used to train til we threw up, it was part of our training regime. I was lucky that my training partner's dad rented a unit that he kitted out as a dedicated strongman gym, a few doors down from the gym his father ran (which I still go to to this day). My training partner won England's Strongest Man Junior, 2nd at UK's Strongest Junior, 7th at World's Strongest Junior (beating current WSM Tom Stoltman on the first event) and went on to compete at a high level in Opens, so I ended up matching them for dosage if not results (deffo not results). You will not believe the dosage some of them (and I) use/d. 20 mil of gear a week, £500 a month on HGH and insulin. I also did the suicidal drop down to 105kg class after not making it in Opens so used to crash 25 kg for comps and used so many thermogenic and diuretics.

Regarding natural strongman, there are some who are genuinely natural, but most are not. I say this as a scumbag who did a few natural comps and compared piss test passing regimes.

My main concerns are not concerns per se more acknowledgements of my likely demise. I am 39. My aim is to see 50 so I can see my daughter graduate uni. She is 12 now. I can't afford her to flunk her AS or A Levels time-wise :) I have caused every single one of my ailments. I am lucky to have a well paid career and work super long hours and take consultancy work on top as I know I am not there to support them into old age. I have insurance policies that are super expensive but worth it. I'd say knowing I have limited my life expectancy considerably is the one sad thing. But I could be run over tomorrow, so embrace every single day. I do not do sad, down or moany. I don't have time or inclination mate.

A massively interesting account and thanks for sharing! It's a sobering thought that you went to the well to live the dream - you can say that when many can't and I am hoping you make it well past 50 and see everything you want to see.

[SeanBrennan]

I read in his autobiography that he'd lift until he threw up, shit himself or passed out. that cannot be good. And the sleep apnea.... did you ever experience anything like that? Do you think his swimming background was a benefit in that regard IE prepping the body? It certainly takes dedication just to eat that quantity.

Mate thats horrible that you are in pain. Glad you have such a positive outlook tho. There is a "natural" strongman who owns a gym near me who is a gorilla of a man who competed and won after breaking his neck in the army. Makes me think you guys are just built differently. I wonder if hes natural or just natural by strong man standards, What are your main concerns as you age in regard to the effects? If you stopped lifting how would it effect you physically?

Evening Steve

Ah, sleep apnoea, my old friend. I knew I snored, knew I was always tired, but it was not until I met my second (and current, thankfully) wife that I knew what sleep apnoea was. She explained I woke up repeatedly choking. I was aware I was sometimes sick during the night (due to reflux from choking) but just passed it off as a side from gear (moronic I know but I had so many sides they just became another one). I went and got a referral, did the Epworth sleep assessment, then the trial they do, then got diagnosed with sleep apnoea. Got a CPAP in 2018 and it changed my life. Was weird wearing it at first but could not sleep without it now. Only bad thing is one of my cats (we have 5, we are animal bonkers) Blue knows it is my sleep thing and if he is hungry, he jabs the buttons til it it presses the one that switches it off and makes you stop breathing and wake up. The evil furbag :)

We used to train til we threw up, it was part of our training regime. I was lucky that my training partner's dad rented a unit that he kitted out as a dedicated strongman gym, a few doors down from the gym his father ran (which I still go to to this day). My training partner won England's Strongest Man Junior, 2nd at UK's Strongest Junior, 7th at World's Strongest Junior (beating current WSM Tom Stoltman on the first event) and went on to compete at a high level in Opens, so I ended up matching them for dosage if not results (deffo not results). You will not believe the dosage some of them (and I) use/d. 20 mil of gear a week, £500 a month on HGH and insulin. I also did the suicidal drop down to 105kg class after not making it in Opens so used to crash 25 kg for comps and used so many thermogenic and diuretics.

Regarding natural strongman, there are some who are genuinely natural, but most are not. I say this as a scumbag who did a few natural comps and compared piss test passing regimes.

My main concerns are not concerns per se more acknowledgements of my likely demise. I am 39. My aim is to see 50 so I can see my daughter graduate uni. She is 12 now. I can't afford her to flunk her AS or A Levels time-wise :) I have caused every single one of my ailments. I am lucky to have a well paid career and work super long hours and take consultancy work on top as I know I am not there to support them into old age. I have insurance policies that are super expensive but worth it. I'd say knowing I have limited my life expectancy considerably is the one sad thing. But I could be run over tomorrow, so embrace every single day. I do not do sad, down or moany. I don't have time or inclination mate.

A massively interesting account and thanks for sharing! It's a sobering thought that you went to the well to live the dream - you can say that when many can't and I am hoping you make it well past 50 and see everything you want to see.

thanks a lot mate, really appreciate it.

[margaret thatcher]

that a punch has to hit a guy in the nuts or richard to be a low blow - really only about 2/3 of the torso is legal area

[tonyevs]

and sorry for the morbidly melancholic post. Please move it to the "whiney man" section :)

A very sobering account of the folly of youth.

Whilst I don't know anything of the impacts of bodybuilding/powerlifting and the typical PEDs that typically go hand in hand with it. I do know of local roided up guys from the past who dropped dead with heart attacks before 50 .. they were still lifting and roiding at the time too.

40 is still young (take it from a guy in his mid 50s) if you quit the heavy lifts and PEDs, and take on the cardio, won't that safeguard you for the future?

60hr weeks aren't good for anyone, especially guys knocking 40 with a bit of premature wear & tear already.
I believe it's about putting things into perspective. Establishing the 'it or I' to an issue.

Look after yourself fella.

[SeanBrennan]

and sorry for the morbidly melancholic post. Please move it to the "whiney man" section :)

A very sobering account of the folly of youth.

Whilst I don't know anything of the impacts of bodybuilding/powerlifting and the typical PEDs that typically go hand in hand with it. I do know of local roided up guys from the past who dropped dead with heart attacks before 50 .. they were still lifting and roiding at the time too.

40 is still young (take it from a guy in his mid 50s) if you quit the heavy lifts and PEDs, and take on the cardio, won't that safeguard you for the future?

60hr weeks aren't good for anyone, especially guys knocking 40 with a bit of premature wear & tear already.
I believe it's about putting things into perspective. Establishing the 'it or I' to an issue.

Look after yourself fella.

Thanks Toney, appreciated.

The PED abuse impacts are largely irreparable mate. Karma in action. I took over 20 mil a week, grams and grams of heavy compounds, solely my own fault. Just a case of mitigating the stupidity these days.

[Perseus]

Ali is the greatest ever.

[Lightsoot]

Ian John-Lewis can add up.