A what if scenario
A what if scenario
Right we got a round robin of 8 PEAK 90s British Midfleweights/Super Middleweights.
1. Herol Graham v Steve Collins
2. Nigel Benn v Joe Calzaghe
3. Chris Eubank v Robin Reid
4. Ritchie Woodall v Howard Eastman
1 v 2
3 v 4
Winner meets The Cobra
Who’s the Champ?
1. Herol Graham v Steve Collins
2. Nigel Benn v Joe Calzaghe
3. Chris Eubank v Robin Reid
4. Ritchie Woodall v Howard Eastman
1 v 2
3 v 4
Winner meets The Cobra
Who’s the Champ?
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SeanBrennan
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1. Herol Graham v Steve Collins - GRAHAM KO
2. Nigel Benn v Joe Calzaghe - CALZAGHE KO
3. Chris Eubank v Robin Reid - EUBANK KO
4. Ritchie Woodall v Howard Eastman - WOODALL PTS
1 v 2 - GRAHAM V CALZAGHE - CALZAGHE KO
3 v 4 - EUBANK V WOODALL - EUBANK KO
Winner meets The Cobra - CALZAGHE KO EUBANK
Who’s the Champ? CALZAGHE SCHOOLS PUNISHES AND STOPS FROCH
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CaptainSpacerod
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Re: A what if scenario
All at their peak, Herol dazzles em all
Herol v Collins ……. Herol pts
Benn v Joe ……. Joe pts
Eubank v Reid …….. Eubank KO
Woodall v Eastman ……. Woodall pts
Herol v Joe …….. split decision Herol
Eubank v Woodall ….. split decision Richie
Herol v Woodall ….. UD Herol
Herol v Froch ……. UD Herol
Herol v Collins ……. Herol pts
Benn v Joe ……. Joe pts
Eubank v Reid …….. Eubank KO
Woodall v Eastman ……. Woodall pts
Herol v Joe …….. split decision Herol
Eubank v Woodall ….. split decision Richie
Herol v Woodall ….. UD Herol
Herol v Froch ……. UD Herol
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Collins
Joe
Eubank
Richie
Joe
Richie
Joe
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Interesting ...
Herol
Joe
Chris
Richie
Joe
Chris
Joe goes on to meet Froch and wins a UD.
Herol
Joe
Chris
Richie
Joe
Chris
Joe goes on to meet Froch and wins a UD.
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Graham UD
Calzaghe Close Decision
Eubank UD
Woodhall UD
Graham over Calzaghe
Eubank UD
Graham Decisions Eubank, close, again.
Graham Decisions Froch
Calzaghe Close Decision
Eubank UD
Woodhall UD
Graham over Calzaghe
Eubank UD
Graham Decisions Eubank, close, again.
Graham Decisions Froch
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[/quote]SeanBrennan wrote: ↑15 Feb 2024, 19:22
1. Herol Graham v Steve Collins - GRAHAM KO
2. Nigel Benn v Joe Calzaghe - CALZAGHE KO
3. Chris Eubank v Robin Reid - EUBANK KO
4. Ritchie Woodall v Howard Eastman - WOODALL PTS
1 v 2 - GRAHAM V CALZAGHE - CALZAGHE KO
3 v 4 - EUBANK V WOODALL - EUBANK KO
Winner meets The Cobra - CALZAGHE KO EUBANK
Who’s the Champ? CALZAGHE SCHOOLS PUNISHES AND STOPS FROCH
About right
I could make a case for Woodhall though
Graham PTS v Collins
Eubank pts v Reid
Woodhall PTS v Eastman
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Grilling Machine
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Herol Graham v Steve Collins
Collins mixed with elite company in his middleweight prime, and I'd fancy McCallum to beat everyone on this list. I think he'd manage to sneak it by a nose as Graham tired in the final third. Collins MD/SD.
Nigel Benn v Joe Calzaghe
Calzaghe UD. Benn might've knocked him down and dominated for a spell, but none of Joe's opponents ever kept him from coming back. For all Benn's power and menace there was a gulf in footwork.
Chris Eubank v Robin Reid
Tightish MD/SD affair, but Eubank wins for commercial reasons.
Ritchie Woodall v Howard Eastman
Eastman was always a bit of a mystery to me, so dunno. I'll take a punt on him living his best life and edging it with sporadic moments of quality.
Steve Collins v Joe Calzaghe
Close fight full of heart and content, but I think Calzaghe's footwork is the difference. Again! Calzaghe narrow UD.
Chris Eubank v Howard Eastman
Maybe suits Eubank for one of his classically mercurial SDs.
Chris Eubank v Joe Calzaghe
Well we've seen it, but Eubank was coming down the hill as Calzaghe was climbing. A younger Eubank could've beaten that greener Calzaghe, the same as Calzaghe in his prime was a match for any Eubank. Calzaghe SD/UD more often than not.
Carl Froch v Joe Calzaghe
Froch might've scared Calzaghe once or twice (think Reid's best moment), but cards ranging 115 to 117 Calzaghe by UD.
Collins mixed with elite company in his middleweight prime, and I'd fancy McCallum to beat everyone on this list. I think he'd manage to sneak it by a nose as Graham tired in the final third. Collins MD/SD.
Nigel Benn v Joe Calzaghe
Calzaghe UD. Benn might've knocked him down and dominated for a spell, but none of Joe's opponents ever kept him from coming back. For all Benn's power and menace there was a gulf in footwork.
Chris Eubank v Robin Reid
Tightish MD/SD affair, but Eubank wins for commercial reasons.
Ritchie Woodall v Howard Eastman
Eastman was always a bit of a mystery to me, so dunno. I'll take a punt on him living his best life and edging it with sporadic moments of quality.
Steve Collins v Joe Calzaghe
Close fight full of heart and content, but I think Calzaghe's footwork is the difference. Again! Calzaghe narrow UD.
Chris Eubank v Howard Eastman
Maybe suits Eubank for one of his classically mercurial SDs.
Chris Eubank v Joe Calzaghe
Well we've seen it, but Eubank was coming down the hill as Calzaghe was climbing. A younger Eubank could've beaten that greener Calzaghe, the same as Calzaghe in his prime was a match for any Eubank. Calzaghe SD/UD more often than not.
Carl Froch v Joe Calzaghe
Froch might've scared Calzaghe once or twice (think Reid's best moment), but cards ranging 115 to 117 Calzaghe by UD.
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Any computation with Calzaghe on it is easy - Calzaghe wins!
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That's a strange pick, mate. How would you see that playing out?
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SeanBrennan
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Don't see the KO, but at that level Collins could be outboxedSeanBrennan wrote: ↑16 Feb 2024, 06:21I selected it based on my massive bias towards Ingle fighters, despite Collins never being stopped :)
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SeanBrennan
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think I got over excited tbh. Please never follow any predictions from me even mythical onesCoco wrote: ↑16 Feb 2024, 13:31Don't see the KO, but at that level Collins could be outboxedSeanBrennan wrote: ↑16 Feb 2024, 06:21I selected it based on my massive bias towards Ingle fighters, despite Collins never being stopped :)
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Tbh I didn’t include Michael Watson. Who was my favourite amongst early 90s Middles/SuperMiddleweights.
Couldn’t. Never rewatched the Eubank fight. Never will. The
Surprised no-one has gone for The Cobra in the final battle. His resume is pretty much over the others tbf.
Couldn’t. Never rewatched the Eubank fight. Never will. The
Surprised no-one has gone for The Cobra in the final battle. His resume is pretty much over the others tbf.
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SeanBrennan
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good shout re Froch.si7dog7 wrote: ↑16 Feb 2024, 16:32 Tbh I didn’t include Michael Watson. Who was my favourite amongst early 90s Middles/SuperMiddleweights.
Couldn’t. Never rewatched the Eubank fight. Never will. The
Surprised no-one has gone for The Cobra in the final battle. His resume is pretty much over the others tbf.
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SeanBrennan
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Mate. It’s always a tragedy when something like this happens. Whatever the level. Michael was superb tho. Amongst my mates I picked him over Benn at Finsbury. I was laughed at. A smooth boxer with a dig. Loved watching him. The McCallum fight was great in defeat. Mind you. Body snatcher was one of the best.
Won’t watch the last one tho. Being a fellow Gooner don’t come in to it. Lovely boxer. Lovely man. Still is
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SeanBrennan
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Lovely words mate.si7dog7 wrote: ↑16 Feb 2024, 17:29Mate. It’s always a tragedy when something like this happens. Whatever the level. Michael was superb tho. Amongst my mates I picked him over Benn at Finsbury. I was laughed at. A smooth boxer with a dig. Loved watching him. The McCallum fight was great in defeat. Mind you. Body snatcher was one of the best.
Won’t watch the last one tho. Being a fellow Gooner don’t come in to it. Lovely boxer. Lovely man. Still is
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Never been a massive fan but Calazghe was different class. His match making was so poor we never got to see how great he was (maybe that's why I was never a fan).
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JamesPhilips
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Graham so overrated
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its not like he didnt get ample opportunity yet seems to get a pass for falling short
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I think people make too many excuses for him. He held the WBO belt hostage for a decade and was happy fighting Tocker Pudwills and Kabary Salems and various other nobodies. He didn’t want to fight outside the UK but then when it came to fighting past it legends he couldn’t get to Vegas quick enough. He squeezed past a 43 year old Hopkins and then fought a shot RJJ. Prime RJJ would have taken him apart, something he’s admitted himself. The Lacy win is massively overrated and really it’s one narrow win against Kessler that’s his best win.
Froch’s CV wipes the floor with his all day long.
I’m not denying he was a good fighter but his reputation vastly exceeds his actual achievements IMO. There are people who have him on their ATG list which amazes me.
Last edited by Monzon83 on 16 Feb 2024, 21:56, edited 1 time in total.
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I’m totally with you on thisMonzon83 wrote: ↑16 Feb 2024, 21:47I think people make too many excuses for him. He held the WBO belt hostage for a decade and was happy fighting Tocker Pudwills and Kabary Salems and various other nobodies. He didn’t want to fight outside the UK but then when it came to fighting past it legends he couldn’t get to Vegas quick enough. He squeezed past a 43 year old Hopkins and then fought a shot RJJ. Prime RJJ would have taken him apart, something he’s admitted himself. The Lacy win is massively overrated and really it’s a very close call against Kessler that’s his best win.
Froch’s CV wipes the floor with his all day long.
I’m not denying he was a good fighter but his reputation vastly exceeds his actual achievements IMO. There are people who have him on their ATG list which amazes me.