Tyson Fury vs. Oleksandr Usyk | PPV - 18 May 2024

[Ruthless-RKO]

Six Judges And Instant Replay For The Fury – Usyk Fight?

WBC president Mauricio Sulaiman is suggesting the upcoming four-belt heavyweight unification showdown between Tyson Fury and Oleksandr Usyk should perhaps have as many as six ringside judges, this along with the use of instant replay video technology being in place. Sulaiman, speaking once again with Sky Sports, said that with additional scoring judges, a bad or controversial decision is less likely.

“Anybody can have a bad night,” Sulaiman said, referring to judges. “But if you have more officials then the possibility of a wrong score goes to the minimum.”

We have for certain seen some odd decisions over the years, along with some terrible decisions and, let’s face it, some good old, plane robberies. But would six judges working a fight iron out the problem? What’s that old saying, ‘too many cooks spoil the broth?’ If three judges cannot competently score a boxing match, then why should we trust six judges to do the job? Wouldn’t six score cards simply result in more confusion with a close, hard to score fight?

“Boxing is a sport in which change is very difficult to get. We’re purists, traditionalists, we don’t want changes,” Sulaiman said. “I will continue to make the proposal. Some like the idea, some of the people in the decision-making process. We will see. We had proposed to use five judges, or six judges. However that was not considered. It did not happen. I would still recommend [it].

“We do have a remote scoring system which is used for training and evaluating ring officials. They score live in the WBC system that we have developed. We have found through more fights done in this system that the more officials that score a fight, the less possibility of a wrong decision. Anybody can have a bad night. If you have one judge have a bad night and the two others get it correct, you still save the fight. You have two judges with a difficult fight and then one round can shift the whole result. But if you have more officials then the possibility of a wrong decision goes to the minimum. But we will see. That’s the only intention to make sure there’s no controversy. Now we have the biggest fight in 25 years in the heavyweight division. So we have to try to do our best.”

Just why Sulaiman is wanting to implement six scoring officials for a big fight, or for any fight, right now might be a question you ask. You will no doubt have other questions. But again, if three judges, for want of a better expression, ‘cannot be trusted,’ then why would six wise men or women sat at ringside be trusted?

It remains to be see if additional judges are brought in, for the Usyk-Fury fight or for any other fight. And would the other boxing organisations follow suit if this did happen? Sulaiman says he is terribly concerned about the possibility of the May 18 heavyweight unification clash suffering a controversy. “That in a fight of this magnitude would be absolutely unacceptable,” he said.

But to repeat, is additional judges the answer?

[SeanBrennan]

Hard to take Sulaiman's suggestion seriously, a man nearly as corrupt as his own father.

[Monzon83]

I have a feeling Usyk gets screwed here.

That’s if the fight actually happens which I still doubt.

[si7dog7]

WBC should be told to do one
WTF?

[si7dog7]

WBC have their Egg defence also
Defunct now.
Not fit for purpose
Get rid

To think they were thought of as the “most prestigious” (of belts).

How times change eh?

[SeanBrennan]

WBC have their Egg defence also
Defunct now.
Not fit for purpose
Get rid

To think they were thought of as the “most prestigious” (of belts).

How times change eh?

indeed Si.

[big lennox]

I read an interview with Uysk's coach, he said that Hrgovic is on standby if Fury pulls out ( for what would be the third time on the trot)and that is written into the contract.

Should the title of this thread be re-named Tyson Fury/Filip Hrgovic vs Oleksandr Usyk - 18 May 2024.

Not sure about extra judges, it will probably lead to even more controversy.

[KiwiRider]

If... It was anyone but WBC president Mauricio Sulaiman, then I'd be interested.
That guy, and his entire organisation is so untrustworthy that him saying more judges, is to me saying he wants even more control of the outcome. He is that dodgy.

[Grilling Machine]

Sounds like an idea to parachute in bought cards to potentially offset genuine ones.

[coneye]

First trhing that sprung to my mind was ,, WHO ? Pays the judges , Wbc or promoter directly , then second thing was , 3 judges promoter pays wbc x amount , wbc (sulliman ) pays y amount ,, equaling z profit ,, Double the judges , double the profit , when they all stuff up , he can call for 8 judges , two each side of ring , one ready for when the other one is watching to see if the pop star with big tits is looking at him and missing the action . .

And it is possible to misinterprete whats going on if your sat and the boxers have there back to you , sometimes you would see it thrown and not see the deflection or slip , so maybee 4 one each side , but 6 Naaaw i suspect money grab , especielly since the Saudis don't mind throwing it around .

[BigDoofus]

I read an interview with Uysk's coach, he said that Hrgovic is on standby if Fury pulls out ( for what would be the third time on the trot)and that is written into the contract..

Who is on standby if Usyk pulls out for the third time?

[Coco]

It's not unusual for big fights to have standbys, these TV dates normally have to be honoured

[Coco]

I read an interview with Uysk's coach, he said that Hrgovic is on standby if Fury pulls out ( for what would be the third time on the trot)and that is written into the contract..

Who is on standby if Usyk pulls out for the third time?

Dereck Chisora

[coneye]

I read an interview with Uysk's coach, he said that Hrgovic is on standby if Fury pulls out ( for what would be the third time on the trot)and that is written into the contract..

Who is on standby if Usyk pulls out for the third time?

Dereck Chisora

, Big John really never gives up does he ,

[jwfg]

imo, There should be five judges. And like some other sports, two of cards should be disregarded. The highest score for fighter A and the highest score for fighter b.

[The Gratest]

I read an interview with Uysk's coach, he said that Hrgovic is on standby if Fury pulls out ( for what would be the third time on the trot)and that is written into the contract..

Who is on standby if Usyk pulls out for the third time?

Joe Egan's free and looking for a fight

[joshj909]

imo, There should be five judges. And like some other sports, two of cards should be disregarded. The highest score for fighter A and the highest score for fighter b.

Interesting idea. What other sports do it that way? And does it work well in those sports?

[damage]

Anymore judges & the ringside punters won't be able to see the fighters in the ring.

[jwfg]

imo, There should be five judges. And like some other sports, two of cards should be disregarded. The highest score for fighter A and the highest score for fighter b.

Interesting idea. What other sports do it that way? And does it work well in those sports?

I think it's diving and/or gymnastics. For boxing it would remove the more biased judges.

[SeanBrennan]

imo, There should be five judges. And like some other sports, two of cards should be disregarded. The highest score for fighter A and the highest score for fighter b.

Interesting idea. What other sports do it that way? And does it work well in those sports?

I think it's diving and/or gymnastics. For boxing it would remove the more biased judges.

is it well regarded as a judging method in those sports?

[jwfg]

Interesting idea. What other sports do it that way? And does it work well in those sports?

I think it's diving and/or gymnastics. For boxing it would remove the more biased judges.

is it well regarded as a judging method in those sports?

I'm going back a long time, they may not be judged that way any more. It makes perfect sense to me.

[SeanBrennan]

I think it's diving and/or gymnastics. For boxing it would remove the more biased judges.

is it well regarded as a judging method in those sports?

I'm going back a long time, they may not be judged that way any more. It makes perfect sense to me.

me too.

[Controversial]

imo, There should be five judges. And like some other sports, two of cards should be disregarded. The highest score for fighter A and the highest score for fighter b.

The thing is fans, commentators and so called “experts” can’t even agree how to score a round. I remember posting a hypothetical scenario about scoring a round where one fighter dominates the entire round and gets dropped by a punch in the last second. Most people said it should be a 10-8 round to the guy who scored the knockdown which isn’t how it should be scored.

[jtourettes]

I think it's diving and/or gymnastics. For boxing it would remove the more biased judges.

is it well regarded as a judging method in those sports?

I'm going back a long time, they may not be judged that way any more. It makes perfect sense to me.

They get rid of the highest and lowest, out at least they used to.

[Finkel]

imo, There should be five judges. And like some other sports, two of cards should be disregarded. The highest score for fighter A and the highest score for fighter b.

Interesting idea. What other sports do it that way? And does it work well in those sports?

I think it's diving and/or gymnastics. For boxing it would remove the more biased judges.

Or it would remove the influence of the steadfast judge(s) that couldn't be gotten to

Sure, in theory, this would remove the issue of some judges having an off day. But I don't think this addresses the underlying issue that most fans hope to weed out. It will merely create a facade of upstanding judging (whether true or not)