Naoya Inoue vs. Luis Nery | ESPN+ - May 6, 2024

Who wins?

Poll ended at 07 May 2024, 05:29

Inoue - Decision
7
11%
Inoue - T/KO
49
79%
DRAW
0
No votes
Nery - T/KO
5
8%
Nery - Decision
1
2%
 
Total votes: 62

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gregregegg wrote: 10 Jan 2024, 05:35 Loma was an atom weight when he was 17 ish…
Lomachenko was at 57 kg/125,7 lbs when he was 18-19 in amateurs.
gregregegg wrote: 10 Jan 2024, 05:35 I’m not going to demand anything out of inoue, but if he chooses to fight Loma (or tank) at 130 I think it’s a great fight. Can’t see it happening but if it’s made I’ll be stoked.
I’m not going to demand anything out of Lomachenko and Davis aka Wahid, but if they choose to fight Inoue at 126 it’s a great fight.

Mayweather consistently fought with very little weight cut at 130 & 135? Are you sure?
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omalley wrote: 10 Jan 2024, 06:12
gregregegg wrote: 10 Jan 2024, 05:35 Loma was an atom weight when he was 17 ish…
Lomachenko was at 57 kg/125,7 lbs when he was 18-19 in amateurs.
gregregegg wrote: 10 Jan 2024, 05:35 I’m not going to demand anything out of inoue, but if he chooses to fight Loma (or tank) at 130 I think it’s a great fight. Can’t see it happening but if it’s made I’ll be stoked.
I’m not going to demand anything out of Lomachenko and Davis aka Wahid, but if they choose to fight Inoue at 126 it’s a great fight.

Mayweather consistently fought with very little weight cut at 130 & 135? Are you sure?
Didn’t say when he was 18/19, said when he was 17ish. But now I do the maths I think he was 16, point remains, people go up weights as the grow into there body.

Inoue going up 14 lbs isn’t crazy. It’s less of a percentage of his body weight over 10 years than going up 1 division from light heavy to cruiserweight which people have to do in 1 go… moral of the story there are wayyyy to many belts at low weights. And there needs to be a 185 division (but that’s a seperate story)

At 126 it’s a great fight also, just less chance of it happening as they would have a huggge camp taking weight off to do it properly (I also don’t like old guys cutting to much weight but that’s just a me thing)

No Mayweather at 147 wasn’t cutting much weight I can see why you don’t consider that prime Mayweather, it’s Not the era he was most dominant (because he was often giving up a lot of size) but probably the era he was the best (147 Mayweather would beat 135 Mayweather).
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gregregegg wrote: 10 Jan 2024, 08:08
omalley wrote: 10 Jan 2024, 06:12
gregregegg wrote: 10 Jan 2024, 05:35 Loma was an atom weight when he was 17 ish…
Lomachenko was at 57 kg/125,7 lbs when he was 18-19 in amateurs.
gregregegg wrote: 10 Jan 2024, 05:35 I’m not going to demand anything out of inoue, but if he chooses to fight Loma (or tank) at 130 I think it’s a great fight. Can’t see it happening but if it’s made I’ll be stoked.
I’m not going to demand anything out of Lomachenko and Davis aka Wahid, but if they choose to fight Inoue at 126 it’s a great fight.

Mayweather consistently fought with very little weight cut at 130 & 135? Are you sure?
Didn’t say when he was 18/19, said when he was 17ish. But now I do the maths I think he was 16, point remains, people go up weights as the grow into there body.
Lomachenko was at 57 kg/125,7 lbs when he was 18-19 in amateurs. He was at 60 kg/132,3 lbs when he was 24 in amateurs. He started professional career at Featherweight (126 lbs) and his fight night weight was up to 138 lbs then, there are proofs of that.
Inoue is 30 years old now and is fighting at 122.
gregregegg wrote: 10 Jan 2024, 08:08 Inoue going up 14 lbs isn’t crazy.
Who said it is? But Inoue is 30 years old now.
gregregegg wrote: 10 Jan 2024, 08:08 No Mayweather at 147 wasn’t cutting much weight I can see why you don’t consider that prime Mayweather, it’s Not the era he was most dominant (because he was often giving up a lot of size) but probably the era he was the best (147 Mayweather would beat 135 Mayweather).
Yes, Mayweather at 147 wasn’t cutting much weight. How do you know that Inoue IS cutting much weight at 122?
Inoueis probably 135ish fight night.
- any proof of that?
Inoue is 30 years old now and is fighting at 122. How many divisions did Mayweather go up north after 30?
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gregregegg wrote: 10 Jan 2024, 08:08 Inoue going up 14 lbs isn’t crazy. It’s less of a percentage of his body weight over 10 years than going up 1 division from light heavy to cruiserweight which people have to do in 1 go…
Addition about 14 lbs and percentage of body weight.
How many champions at MW+LHW do we know? A few, and all of them are outstanding boxers.
14 lbs is 13% of 108. 15 is 9% of 160 lbs.
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Looking at May 6 :box:
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All those casuals on social media shitting on him again for not fighting in the US and not fighting Tank. Bunch of casuals.

Gotta take a day off again, though.
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Naoya Inoue-Luis Nery 122-Pound Championship Clash Planned For May 6 At Tokyo Dome

Naoya Inoue and Luis Nery inch closer to a deal that would provide by far their largest audience to date.

Boxing Scene has confirmed that the aforementioned undisputed junior featherweight championship matchup is targeted to take place on May 6—a Monday—at the famed Tokyo Dome in Tokyo, Japan.

A deal was long in place for the fight itself. Boxing Scene has additionally learned that there was a hold on the venue since at least the start of the new year. However, plans are contingent upon the Japanese Boxing Commission (JBC) agreeing to lift Nery’s indefinite suspension.

Absent that, an alternate location will have to be secured since the fight is a WBC mandatory title defense. Tijuana’s Nery (35-1, 27 KOs) is the sanctioning body’s number-one contender and now in line to challenge for Inoue’s undisputed crown.

Inoue himself called for Nery to be the first of a planned three-fight campaign in 2024. His team was proactive in working with the JBC to lift a suspension that has been in place for Nery since his March 2018 rematch with Shinsuke Yamanaka, when he badly missed weight.

The development was viewed by the commission as a lack of respect, at which point Nery was told to not return. The Mexican southpaw lost his WBC bantamweight title at the scales but proceeded to knock Yamanaka out in the second round. It was a repeat win for Nery, who dethroned the previously unbeaten WBC bantamweight champion via fourth-round knockout in August 2017. He subsequently tested positive for the banned substance Zilpaterol but attributed it to food contamination and was permitted to keep his title.

At the time of the Yamanaka rematch, it was widely reported that Nery was issued a lifetime ban. However, it was since learned that something was lost in translation and that the JBC confirmed it is in fact indefinite. Given that, there exists room— but by no means a guarantee—for Nery to once again fight in Japan.

Inoue (26-0, 23 KOs) stormed through the junior featherweight division in a 2023 Fighter of the Year campaign.

The highly rated pound-for-pound entrant from Yokohama moved up in weight and became a four-division champion after an eighth-round knockout of previously unbeaten Stephen Fulton last July 25 at Ariake Arena in Tokyo. Inoue—who turns 31 in April—claimed the WBC and WBO 122-pound titles that night.

The same venue hosted what became Inoue’s second undisputed championship in less than 54 weeks. That feat was accomplished when he knocked out Marlon Tapales in the tenth-round of their WBA/WBC/IBF/WBO championship clash last December 26. Negotiations were already under way to next face Nery, given the difficult circumstances to ensure that such a fight could take place in Japan within his planned schedule.

Mr. Hideyuki Ohashi—Inoue’s promoter and a former two-time strawweight champ during his heyday—mentioned in a press conference days after the Tapales win of fan demand far exceeding venues such as Ariake Arena.

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As Boxing Scene previously reported, an aggressive approach was taken to have Inoue fight at the Tokyo Dome and possibly even in Saudi Arabia during his 2024 campaign. The Tokyo Dome boasts an attendance record of 74,500, though it is traditionally scaled to house up to 55,000 fans.

The famed locale has only hosted two major boxing events, both headlined by then unbeaten, undisputed heavyweight champion Mike Tyson—including his monstrous February 1990 knockout defeat to Buster Douglas in what remains the benchmark for historic boxing upsets.

Nery will enter the fight in hopes of becoming a three-time titlist spanning two weight divisions.

In addition to his WBC bantamweight title reign, he previously held the WBC junior featherweight belt which he lost to Brandon Figueroa via seventh-round knockout in May 2021. It remains the lone career defeat for the 29-year-old southpaw, who has since won four straight. Among that list was his Fight of the Year-level eleventh-round stoppage of Azat Hovhannisyan in their WBC title eliminator last February 18 in Pomona, California.

Nery’s most recent win came last July 8, when he scored a second-round knockout of Froilan Saludar in Metepec, Mexico.
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Sendo Takeshi wrote: 25 Jan 2024, 02:21 All those casuals on social media shitting on him again for not fighting in the US and not fighting Tank. Bunch of casuals.

Gotta take a day off again, though.
LMAO1!

Well these US boxers have no issues traveling to Japan for some YEN!

It's ESPN backed, they being paid decent surely.

Not like anyone getting robbed. Just knocked out. :lol:
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Good fight! Inoue is rocking big time! :box:
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The perfect match-up for Japan's revenge against Nery
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I don’t know if it’s because he’s American, but he doesn’t like getting punched in the face.
Inoue talking about Fulton.
I knew that was an american thing :clap:

https://www.ringtv.com/664483-naoya-ino ... -and-nery/
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f@ck ya :yay:

https://boxrec.com/en/event/892326

in addition to inoue-nery, also get jason maloney vs unbeaten japanese hot shot yoshiki takei, akui-kuwahara rematch of a barnburner, and takuma inoue vs tough japanese vet sho ishida, who is unbeaten since a split decision loss to kosei tanaka 3 years ago

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I still can't believe they're holding it at the Tokyo Dome. That's going to be a significant night for Japanese boxing. Let's hope Nery doesn't defy the odds; otherwise, he's going to face the wrath of 55,000 angry people.

I have to take another day off, though. :verysad:
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On paper it looks like a blowout.
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nery has a lot of fire power himself, and quick handed too. but he has a history of being hurt by body shots, and inoue can really bang downstairs. inoue just more complete fighter and looks tougher, but nery isnt a no hoper (albeit still a sizable dog)
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You never know.
Doubt it.
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crazy to think this really is the best possible opponent, and in the little weights, but the bookies have it a missmatch with nery getting knocked out.... and i dont disagree. Inoue is thattttt good.
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Perfect revenge match for Japan boxing altogether and the rest of the card is also stellar

Nery is clearly the underdog, wouldn't throw him off so easily though due to his nasty bodywork
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INOUE VS. NERY LANDS AT THE TOKYO DOME

Undisputed world 122-pound champion and future Hall of Famer Naoya Inoue will headline the biggest boxing event Japan has witnessed. “The Monster” will defend all the belts against Mexico's Luis “Pantera” Nery on Monday, May 6th at the iconic Tokyo Dome. Inoue, a four-weight champion and undisputed two-weight king, will headline this titanic event at this historic venue. Nery (35-1, 27 KOs) is a former two-weight world champion who won the WBC title at both bantamweight and super bantamweight.

The Tokyo Dome was inaugurated in March 1988. Teiken Promotions, under the direction of Akihiko, presented Mike Tyson vs. Tony Tubbs celebrated on March 21, 1988 which was the boxing inauguration of the Tokyo Dome. The other monumental boxing event at “The Big Egg” took place in February 1990, when James “Buster” Douglas knocked out Tyson in the tenth round to capture the world heavyweight championship.
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It will take a career best from Nery.
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Promoter Bob Arum Defends Naoya Inoue Staying at Home

Bob Arum knows the numbers, has witnessed Japan’s adoration of its conquering boxing hero and sees no reason why Naoya Inoue needs to fight outside the country in the foreseeable future.

“It used to be that coming here to the U.S. was the best way to make the biggest money – it worked for Manny [Pacquiao] and [heavyweight champion Tyson] Fury,” Arum told BS Wednesday.

“This is a different actor – the biggest boxing star in a well-to-do-country.”

Two-time undisputed champion Inoue (26-0, 23 KOs) will return to the ring May 6 (a Monday morning U.S. time) when he meets former champion Luis Nery (35-1, 27 KOs) in defense of Inoue’s undisputed junior featherweight title.

The bout will take place at the 55,000-seat-capacity Tokyo Dome – where Mike Tyson was upset by Buster Douglas – and Arum said the live-gate sales have already exceeded $20 million with television rights fees still to be calculated.

Last week on ProBox TV’s “Deep Waters," analyst and former welterweight champion Shawn Porter said, “We really don’t know what Inoue’s goals are – are his goals to be the star of boxing? If his goal is to be the star in boxing, you got to come to the United States.”

Inoue responded, “The home of the [lower weights] is now here in Japan. If there is something better than what is available in the Japanese market in America, I would be happy to go.”

Inoue made two pandemic-era U.S. appearances at the Top Rank Bubble and Virgin Hotels in Las Vegas, but Arum says in the current landscape “there’s no way he could approach what he makes in Japan. Why come here and take a step back when there’s such a tremendous market for you in Japan?”

Previous junior featherweight titlehollders Stephen Fulton of Philadelphia and Marlon Tapales trekked to Japan to fight Inoue before Nery.

“There’s nobody even close in those divisions [near Inoue’s weight class] who could make a fight bigger than what he can do in Japan,” Arum said. “This is completely different than Manny coming from the Philippines at a time where he couldn’t have fought anywhere and made more than $50,000. Fighting here did make him a global superstar.

“For Inoue, it’s the exact opposite – although fighting in Japan creates a challenging road trip for his foes. Their purses ease the discomfort.

“Their tongues are wagging out for an invitation,” Arum said.

“Shawn’s a good guy, but what he’s talking about [coming to America], that’s old-school.”
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he's already fought in usa multiple times and there's no murican star in his weight anyway
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He is fighting the best in his division and makes the most money by fighting in japan.
He is doing everything right.

Porter didn't even know Inoue was japanese not too long ago, what would he know about what's best for him.
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Fight Week!! :box:
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Sendo Takeshi wrote: 19 Apr 2024, 16:59 He is fighting the best in his division and makes the most money by fighting in japan.
He is doing everything right.

Porter didn't even know Inoue was japanese not too long ago, what would he know about what's best for him.
Agree. Whats the fascination will Americans thinking America is the be all end all for Boxing? The Saudi’s are topping any purses the Americans can offer. Making the biggest fights. UK selling out 80,000 stadiums for fights here. Japanese star selling out 55,000 arenas in Japan. The Americans can stay on their own because eventually their stars will succumb to the Saudi money too.
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