Ngannou for the upset.

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reckon this will play out exactly as we all thought the fury fight would. much as ngannou deserves respect for well exceeding everyones expectations last time out, i do think the planets aligned for him against fury. tyson was beyond awful, totally out of shape, over confident, no strategy, and seemed to have no power whatsoever. joshua, by contrast, hits harder than fury does, will enter the ring in top shape, wont be taking his opponent lightly, and will have a clear gameplan, namely, circle, jab, dont back up to the ropes, and i think thatll be all thats necassary to beat ngannou. i expect joshua to box cautiously for 2 rounds, sit down on the right hand more as the fight progresses, and start to beat francis up by the mid way point, for a 7th round stoppage. joshua will be wanting to make a statement here, with tyson fury in attendence, and fury will end up the biggest loser on the night, looking even more ridiculous than he already does, when joshua dominates the zero fight novice that beat up fury and put him flat on his back.
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mike john wrote: 07 Mar 2024, 12:55 reckon this will play out exactly as we all thought the fury fight would. much as ngannou deserves respect for well exceeding everyones expectations last time out, i do think the planets aligned for him against fury. tyson was beyond awful, totally out of shape, over confident, no strategy, and seemed to have no power whatsoever. joshua, by contrast, hits harder than fury does, will enter the ring in top shape, wont be taking his opponent lightly, and will have a clear gameplan, namely, circle, jab, dont back up to the ropes, and i think thatll be all thats necassary to beat ngannou. i expect joshua to box cautiously for 2 rounds, sit down on the right hand more as the fight progresses, and start to beat francis up by the mid way point, for a 7th round stoppage. joshua will be wanting to make a statement here, with tyson fury in attendence, and fury will end up the biggest loser on the night, looking even more ridiculous than he already does, when joshua dominates the zero fight novice that beat up fury and put him flat on his back.
And i think most would say you have summised it perfectly , Only problem is Nganou does seem to be a BIG STRONG , TOUGH, DUDE ,, i would be worried about him walking through AJ in the laere stages and landing a haymaker . other than that i'd say you are pretty well on the ball , especielly with this being AJ's BIG CHANCE TO MAKE FURY LOOK STUPID
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Might the fight resemble Lewis v McCall 2 minus the crying? One side outclassed but still holding up a great chin.
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Maybe Ben is changing the AJ mindset, but I think that last fight might have been a mirage in terms of him not looking gun-shy, because that was a guy that he’d been sparring for years, I think, and probably bashing him up on a regular basis, so there was no worries there…
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Can you imagine what it will be like if Ngannou wins. AJ will lose his mind
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Ngannou will be a rabbit in the headlights tonight.

For the first time he’ll be facing a boxer working at pace, with timing and stamina.

Joshua will do what we all expected Fury to do.
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Frostieballs wrote: 08 Mar 2024, 05:54 Ngannou will be a rabbit in the headlights tonight.

For the first time he’ll be facing a boxer working at pace, with timing and stamina.

Joshua will do what we all expected Fury to do.
I hope so
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I predict the fight will prove two semi-obvious points - ex-UFC novice boxing heavyweights can’t win top tier heavyweight boxing fights. And Tyson Fury must be shot to pieces.
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:clap:
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Coco wrote: 06 Mar 2024, 18:44 It will be an upset if Francis makes it into the second half of the fight
I hate it when I'm right, I would feel sorry for the MMA fighter, but he earned proper money
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Let's all give Cyclops some stick :lol:
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Nightmare Roy wrote: 02 Mar 2024, 12:05
forcefraser wrote: 02 Mar 2024, 09:41
Nightmare Roy wrote: 02 Mar 2024, 08:29 I wouldnt be shocked if Ngannou cleans AJ'S clock, but I think AJ gets on his bike and Nicks a pts decision. He might try for the stoppage early on but he will quickly realise how strong and powerful Ngannou is, the man is an immovable object.
Have we seen him caught clean?

Fury didn't hit him with any power. AJ has more than enough power to render him sparko. AJ carries Powah.
I've seen him booted in the chin, didnt blink, he's a seriously hard geezer
just saying likes
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Boxerbeetle wrote: 08 Mar 2024, 20:54 Let's all give Cyclops some stick :lol:
Oh boy, I've got it coming haven't I? :doh:

I AM pleased with the result, though :oops:
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forcefraser wrote: 08 Mar 2024, 21:01
Nightmare Roy wrote: 02 Mar 2024, 12:05
forcefraser wrote: 02 Mar 2024, 09:41

Have we seen him caught clean?

Fury didn't hit him with any power. AJ has more than enough power to render him sparko. AJ carries Powah.
I've seen him booted in the chin, didnt blink, he's a seriously hard geezer
just saying likes
Fair play I was way off, :lol: good for boxing though that's for sure.
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Frostieballs wrote: 08 Mar 2024, 05:54 Ngannou will be a rabbit in the headlights tonight.

For the first time he’ll be facing a boxer working at pace, with timing and stamina.

Joshua will do what we all expected Fury to do.
They say self praise is no praise, but ……
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Nightmare Roy wrote: 08 Mar 2024, 21:08
forcefraser wrote: 08 Mar 2024, 21:01
Nightmare Roy wrote: 02 Mar 2024, 12:05
I've seen him booted in the chin, didnt blink, he's a seriously hard geezer
just saying likes
Fair play I was way off, :lol: good for boxing though that's for sure.
It definitely was the best result for boxing. But still asks the question :

WTF Fury?
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KiwiRider wrote: 08 Mar 2024, 21:11
Nightmare Roy wrote: 08 Mar 2024, 21:08
forcefraser wrote: 08 Mar 2024, 21:01

just saying likes
Fair play I was way off, :lol: good for boxing though that's for sure.
It definitely was the best result for boxing. But still asks the question :

WTF Fury?
Was he ever that good? Maybe not?
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Don't be too hasty in counting Fury out - he's got his boar arms back. If the Usyk fight goes ahead he'll be in his best shape for years.
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tonyevs wrote: 01 Mar 2024, 14:43 Its a bit like before McGregor fought Mayweather here :doh:

AJ is going to be able to land his best punches quite easily against a guy who isn`t used to feints and little traps other top professional heavyweights are.
If Ngannou is actually able to take the punches, which he most definitely won`t be able to do for too long, then AJ is plenty good enough to control it from the outside.

Ngannou is gonna find that unlike when he fought Fury, AJ will be taking this 100% serious and in 100% fighting shape.
.. a lot like the McGregor v Mayweather fight actually :verysad:
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Its nice to get 1 right … i dont get many
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Well done to those who envisaged the fight playing out exactly as it did. A heck of a professional showing from AJ. A tad disappointing from Ngannou, I thought he might go after Joshua a bit more.

Eddie so desperate for Fury to eliminate Usyk from Joshua’s future. The cards could yet fall into place for AJ, who’d have thought that a couple of years ago.
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Ngannou deserves a lot of respect for how he conducted himself after each of the Fury and Aj fights.

I am very glad he has had the opportunity to make the multi-millions he has because he comes across as a very decent person.

His two fights in boxing has drawn lots of criticism, but I also think it paid Ngannou well for the opportunities. Some have drawn attention to Ngannou being a lamb to the slaughter coming into boxing - but he almost ruined the script with Fury and unfortunately for him he came across the real deal and a serious puncher against Aj, but boxing has enabled Ngannou to secure his and his families future.

Boxing is a cesspit of a sport and full of mismatches. The sad gormless mismatched journeymen being paid a grand or two to try and last the distance against a hot prospect is the accepted reality of boxing week in week out, so if we have to watch mismatches then seeing Ngannou earn millions is a welcome sight.
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Cannot comprehend how anyone picked Ngannou. Hindsight confirms of course but while a critic of Joshua in the past to dismiss his credentials to beat a novice - added to his supreme conditioning - as the defining actor in Fury Ngannou - was mind-blowing to me.
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DavidPayne wrote: 13 Mar 2024, 08:46 Cannot comprehend how anyone picked Ngannou. Hindsight confirms of course but while a critic of Joshua in the past to dismiss his credentials to beat a novice - added to his supreme conditioning - as the defining actor in Fury Ngannou - was mind-blowing to me.
Yes the only question was just how durable Ngannou was going to be. Boxing News picked Joshua only to win in the late rounds when exhaustion would have set in. Certainly in the UFC world he looked more or less to have the best MMA chin of all time. But he sure went over like a novice against Joshua!
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Power of a huge, in prime(ish), well schooled, credntialled heavyweight is entirely a different animal to an MMA fighter who lacks most of those aspects. In my opinion
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