Andrade Fighting Another Bum

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Max Molyneux wrote:Who are the other guys on Andrade's list accept former WBO champ Grant?
Nobody that was in the top 15, unfortunately.
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Axe wrote:
valdosta wrote:
viciousmaussa wrote:totally unfounded. chances are Andrade would've got subtly outboxed and bitched robbery afterward. As of now, LA is not in the same class. GB will be queasy about sending good fighters abroad after what Abraham did to Ikeke in Germany.

My guess is that Andrade will go on to Charles Brewer and Byron Mitchell 'dangerous but limited' level, but no further. Hence he will get outmanouevred by a quality title holder, as the did.
Odds are Andrade would have gone to Germany and knocked crappy Beyer out. Instead they are cashing Beyer out against another titleist which makes sense. I heard they are getting paid well to fight Kessler. I doubt he would have made as much to have Andrade take his title. Sound bussiness move. Andrade wouldn't beat the real champions of the division but he would have beaten Beyer badly.
And you base this on what? His win over 40 year old Grant?
Oh shut the f--- up. I base it on the fact that I have seen a lot of both guys and think Andrade would bash Beyer. Period. Have you never seen a guy who hasn't fought as good of opposition beat another guy? The truth is it happens all the time. Beyer is complete rubbish and Andrade would have knocked his sorry ass out. I know 1 thing is for sure, Andrade wouldn't lose to a fighter like Christian Sanavia LOL. Like I said, Andrade wouldn't beat the top few fighters in the division but Beyer isn't 1 of them. He runs Beyer over. it's a horrible style mismatch and Sauerland realized it. That's why the fight is not happening.
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valdosta wrote:
Axe wrote:
valdosta wrote: Odds are Andrade would have gone to Germany and knocked crappy Beyer out. Instead they are cashing Beyer out against another titleist which makes sense. I heard they are getting paid well to fight Kessler. I doubt he would have made as much to have Andrade take his title. Sound bussiness move. Andrade wouldn't beat the real champions of the division but he would have beaten Beyer badly.
And you base this on what? His win over 40 year old Grant?
Oh shut the f--- up. I base it on the fact that I have seen a lot of both guys and think Andrade would bash Beyer. Period. Have you never seen a guy who hasn't fought as good of opposition beat another guy? The truth is it happens all the time. Beyer is complete rubbish and Andrade would have knocked his sorry ass out. I know 1 thing is for sure, Andrade wouldn't lose to a fighter like Christian Sanavia LOL. Like I said, Andrade wouldn't beat the top few fighters in the division but Beyer isn't 1 of them. He runs Beyer over. it's a horrible style mismatch and Sauerland realized it. That's why the fight is not happening.
You are totally ignorant. Beyer is a quality fighter with skills. He has wins over Sanavia, Danny Green, Sheika, Richie Woodhall, Lucas (not a robbery),

Cristian Sanavia? That WAS a dubious decision. The Germans couldn't believe it when the verdict when Sanavi's way. In spite of Sanavia's less than exciting recent record, he was a quality operator. And guess what happened in the rematch? Sanavia boxed the fight of his life & Beyer blasted him out with a 1 punch KO

You don't know shit, all you do is rave about a Golden Boy hype job.

Go & watch the fights before talking nonsense.

fyo Beyer is fighting Kessler, whom Andrade wil never be as good as. You make it sound like Beyer went for the easy option in Kessler which is pathetic.
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Post by Max Molyneux »

Froch should fight Andrande.

Andrande's No 1 and Froch No 3 (Lacy is No 2!).

Could make sense for Froch though after he gets the Euro title, if he's serious.

Plus are Golden Boy and Hennessy still partners?

Plus it could give time for the winner of Kessler and Beyer to get whooped by Joe and I read that Mundine might go to Middleweight.
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Max Molyneux wrote:Froch should fight Andrande.

Andrande's No 1 and Froch No 3 (Lacy is No 2!).

Could make sense for Froch though after he gets the Euro title, if he's serious.

Plus are Golden Boy and Hennessy still partners?

Plus it could give time for the winner of Kessler and Beyer to get whooped by Joe and I read that Mundine might go to Middleweight.
Not sold on Froch, so i would tip Andrade to win that one.

Would really have liked for Andrade and Mundine to fight for the right to be mandatory. Could perhaps have made it a little more likely that winner of Kessler-Beyer could fight Calzaghe, if there was only one mandatory waiting for a shot.
And it would in it self be a very interesting and fairly even matched fight.
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viciousmaussa wrote:
valdosta wrote:
Axe wrote: And you base this on what? His win over 40 year old Grant?
Oh shut the f--- up. I base it on the fact that I have seen a lot of both guys and think Andrade would bash Beyer. Period. Have you never seen a guy who hasn't fought as good of opposition beat another guy? The truth is it happens all the time. Beyer is complete rubbish and Andrade would have knocked his sorry ass out. I know 1 thing is for sure, Andrade wouldn't lose to a fighter like Christian Sanavia LOL. Like I said, Andrade wouldn't beat the top few fighters in the division but Beyer isn't 1 of them. He runs Beyer over. it's a horrible style mismatch and Sauerland realized it. That's why the fight is not happening.
You are totally ignorant. Beyer is a quality fighter with skills. He has wins over Sanavia, Danny Green, Sheika, Richie Woodhall, Lucas (not a robbery),

Cristian Sanavia? That WAS a dubious decision. The Germans couldn't believe it when the verdict when Sanavi's way. In spite of Sanavia's less than exciting recent record, he was a quality operator. And guess what happened in the rematch? Sanavia boxed the fight of his life & Beyer blasted him out with a 1 punch KO

You don't know shit, all you do is rave about a Golden Boy hype job.

Go & watch the fights before talking nonsense.

fyo Beyer is fighting Kessler, whom Andrade wil never be as good as. You make it sound like Beyer went for the easy option in Kessler which is pathetic.
No kidding. The lack of logic in his posts is mind boggling. Beyer is a quality fighter and has proven more in his career than Andrade ever will. It's easy to look good against F class bums like "the alien" Grant, it's another matter if youre going over to England and taking the belt off a once-beaten, proven world champion.

What's even more impressive, however, is the control mr. valdosta exhibits over his emotions. :lol:
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viciousmaussa wrote:
valdosta wrote:
Axe wrote: And you base this on what? His win over 40 year old Grant?
Oh shut the f--- up. I base it on the fact that I have seen a lot of both guys and think Andrade would bash Beyer. Period. Have you never seen a guy who hasn't fought as good of opposition beat another guy? The truth is it happens all the time. Beyer is complete rubbish and Andrade would have knocked his sorry ass out. I know 1 thing is for sure, Andrade wouldn't lose to a fighter like Christian Sanavia LOL. Like I said, Andrade wouldn't beat the top few fighters in the division but Beyer isn't 1 of them. He runs Beyer over. it's a horrible style mismatch and Sauerland realized it. That's why the fight is not happening.
You are totally ignorant. Beyer is a quality fighter with skills. He has wins over Sanavia, Danny Green, Sheika, Richie Woodhall, Lucas (not a robbery),

Cristian Sanavia? That WAS a dubious decision. The Germans couldn't believe it when the verdict when Sanavi's way. In spite of Sanavia's less than exciting recent record, he was a quality operator. And guess what happened in the rematch? Sanavia boxed the fight of his life & Beyer blasted him out with a 1 punch KO

You don't know shit, all you do is rave about a Golden Boy hype job.

Go & watch the fights before talking nonsense.

fyo Beyer is fighting Kessler, whom Andrade wil never be as good as. You make it sound like Beyer went for the easy option in Kessler which is pathetic.
More people think tthat Lucas won than Beyer. Beyer beat Sanavia in the first fight? That is BS. THE Germans thought is was a bad decision? LOL, that is because they are used to there fighters always getting close decisions. Sanavia beat him fair and square. he was winning the rematch as well until he fot caught. Beyer has a few decent wins BUT THAT"S NOT THE POINT NOW IS IT? That has nothing to do with style matchups. You are the ignorant 1 who also apparently can't damn read. Beyer is fighting Kessler to cash out. I made that point very clear. That is why instead of fighting his mandatory (which was due), he is fighting Kessler. He would lose to either guy might as well get paid better to lose. Ignorant bastard.
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Axe wrote:
viciousmaussa wrote:
valdosta wrote: Oh shut the f--- up. I base it on the fact that I have seen a lot of both guys and think Andrade would bash Beyer. Period. Have you never seen a guy who hasn't fought as good of opposition beat another guy? The truth is it happens all the time. Beyer is complete rubbish and Andrade would have knocked his sorry ass out. I know 1 thing is for sure, Andrade wouldn't lose to a fighter like Christian Sanavia LOL. Like I said, Andrade wouldn't beat the top few fighters in the division but Beyer isn't 1 of them. He runs Beyer over. it's a horrible style mismatch and Sauerland realized it. That's why the fight is not happening.
You are totally ignorant. Beyer is a quality fighter with skills. He has wins over Sanavia, Danny Green, Sheika, Richie Woodhall, Lucas (not a robbery),

Cristian Sanavia? That WAS a dubious decision. The Germans couldn't believe it when the verdict when Sanavi's way. In spite of Sanavia's less than exciting recent record, he was a quality operator. And guess what happened in the rematch? Sanavia boxed the fight of his life & Beyer blasted him out with a 1 punch KO

You don't know shit, all you do is rave about a Golden Boy hype job.

Go & watch the fights before talking nonsense.

fyo Beyer is fighting Kessler, whom Andrade wil never be as good as. You make it sound like Beyer went for the easy option in Kessler which is pathetic.
No kidding. The lack of logic in his posts is mind boggling. Beyer is a quality fighter and has proven more in his career than Andrade ever will. It's easy to look good against F class bums like "the alien" Grant, it's another matter if youre going over to England and taking the belt off a once-beaten, proven world champion.

What's even more impressive, however, is the control mr. valdosta exhibits over his emotions. :lol:
Beyer was do to fight Andrade after Andrade won his eliminator. That is a fact. Instead the kessler camp offered Beyer pretty good money and now Beyer is fighting him instead. Why is that? If Andrade is such rubbish why not fight the more winnable fight (although less money)? The truth is because Andrade would beat Beyers ass.
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Post by Arbachakov »

Beyer is certainly not a quality fighter anyway.

He's a limited, safety-first hack that fights like a poor version of Sammy Serrano.
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