BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Joshua, Parker, Zhang, Huni

Where do they go?

Poll ended at 21 Mar 2024, 05:45

Parker - 3
8
17%
Parker - 4
17
36%
Parker - 5
3
6%
Zhang - 5
5
11%
Zhang - 6
14
30%
 
Total votes: 47

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BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Joshua, Parker, Zhang, Huni

Post by Ruthless-RKO »

Current ranking:
Image ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ฆ Oleksandr Usyk - 21(14) 0 0 - next fight: 18.05.2024 vs. ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง Tyson Fury - 34(24) 0 1 - (#3)

2. ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง Anthony Joshua - 28(25) 3(1) 0 - next fight: TBA

3. ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง Tyson Fury - 34(24) 0 1 - next fight: 18.05.2024 vs. ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ฆ Oleksandr Usyk - 21(14) 0 0 - (Image)

4. ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ณ Zhilei Zhang - 24(21) 2(0) 1 - next fight: TBA

5. ๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡ท Filip Hrgovic - 17(14) 0 0 - next fight: TBA

6. ๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡ฟ Joseph Parker - 35(23) 3(1) 0 - next fight: TBA

7. ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง Joe Joyce - 15(14) 2(2) 0 - next fight: 16.03.2024 vs. ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง Kash Ali - 21(12) 2(0) 0 - (Boxrec's #180)

8. ๐Ÿ‡ฉ๐Ÿ‡ช Agit Kabayel - 24(16) 0(0) 0 - next fight: TBA

9. ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡บ Frank Sanchez - 24(17) 0 0 - next fight: TBA

10. ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง Daniel Dubois - 20(19) 2(2) 0 - next fight: TBA

11. ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ฉ Martin Bakole - 20(15) 1(1) 0 - next fight: TBA

12. ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ Deontay Wilder - 43(42) 3(2) 1 - next fight: TBA

13. ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ Jared Anderson - 16(15) 0 0 - next fight: 13.04.2024 vs. ๐Ÿ‡ง๐Ÿ‡ช Ryad Merhy - 32(26) 2(1) 0 - (Boxrec's #19)

14. ๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡ฌ Efe Ajagba - 19(14) 1(0) 0 - next fight: 13.04.2024 vs. ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡น Guido Vianello - 12(10) 1(1) 1 - (Boxrec's #96)

15. ๐Ÿ‡ธ๐Ÿ‡ช Otto Wallin - 26(14) 2(1) 0 - next fight: TBA
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Question: How have the weekends results impacted the rankings?

We are voting on Joshua, Parker, Zhang and Huni
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Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Joshua, Parker, Zhang, Huni

Post by Ruthless-RKO »

Can vote on AJ and Huni manually.

Huni isn't in the rankings yet.

Vote for Parker and Zhang on the poll.

You get 2 votes. One for each. please use them.
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Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Joshua, Parker, Zhang, Huni

Post by joshj909 »

Parker to 2
Joshua to 3
Zhang to 6
Huni remains out as his win over Lerena is not as impressive at #15 Wallins win over Gassiev.

Reasoning is that although Joshua does have that win over Parker, that was a long time ago. In the past 2 years Parker has better wins. They also both have wins and losses in a sort of round robin way with Whyte, Zhang, Joyce and Ruiz all beating or losing to another who has beat or lost to the other. Basically, you can't squat in the rankings.

This makes my rankings:
1. Usyk
2. Parker
3. Hrgovic
4. Joshua
5. Zhang
6. Fury
7. Joyce
8. Kabayel
9. Bakole
10. Makhmudov
11. Ajagba
12. Dubois
13. Anderson
14. Wallin
15. Huni
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Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Joshua, Parker, Zhang, Huni

Post by joshj909 »

To supplement my above post, the relevant records of the top 5 in the past 2 years:
1. Usyk: AJ (W 2022) > Dubois (W)
2. Parker: Joyce (L 2022) > Wilder (W) > Zhang (W)
3. Joshua: Usyk (L 2022) > Wallin (W) > Ngannou (W)
4. Hrgovic: Zhang (W 2022)
5. Zhang: Hrgovic (L 2022) > Joyce (W+W) > Parker (L)
6. Fury: Whyte (W 2022) > Chisora (W) > Ngannou (W*)
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Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Joshua, Parker, Zhang, Huni

Post by Belanio »

Joshua to #6
Huni stays out
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Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Joshua, Parker, Zhang, Huni

Post by BroughtonRulesRefuge »

Ruthless-RKO wrote: โ†‘11 Mar 2024, 05:45 Current ranking:
Image ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ฆ Oleksandr Usyk - 21(14) 0 0 - next fight: 18.05.2024 vs. ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง Tyson Fury - 34(24) 0 1 - (#2)

2. ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง Anthony Joshua - 28(25) 3(1) 0 - next fight: TBA

3. ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง Tyson Fury - 34(24) 0 1 - next fight: 18.05.2024 vs. ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ฆ Oleksandr Usyk - 21(14) 0 0 - (Image)

4. ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ณ Zhilei Zhang - 24(21) 2(0) 1 - next fight: TBA

5. ๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡ท Filip Hrgovic - 17(14) 0 0 - next fight: TBA

6. ๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡ฟ Joseph Parker - 35(23) 3(1) 0 - next fight: TBA

7. ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง Joe Joyce - 15(14) 2(2) 0 - next fight: 16.03.2024 vs. ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง Kash Ali - 21(12) 2(0) 0 - (Boxrec's #180)

8. ๐Ÿ‡ฉ๐Ÿ‡ช Agit Kabayel - 24(16) 0(0) 0 - next fight: TBA

9. ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡บ Frank Sanchez - 24(17) 0 0 - next fight: TBA

10. ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง Daniel Dubois - 20(19) 2(2) 0 - next fight: TBA

11. ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ฉ Martin Bakole - 20(15) 1(1) 0 - next fight: TBA

12. ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ Deontay Wilder - 43(42) 3(2) 1 - next fight: TBA

13. ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ Jared Anderson - 16(15) 0 0 - next fight: 13.04.2024 vs. ๐Ÿ‡ง๐Ÿ‡ช Ryad Merhy - 32(26) 2(1) 0 - (Boxrec's #19)

14. ๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡ฌ Efe Ajagba - 19(14) 1(0) 0 - next fight: 13.04.2024 vs. ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡น Guido Vianello - 12(10) 1(1) 1 - (Boxrec's #96)

15. ๐Ÿ‡ธ๐Ÿ‡ช Otto Wallin - 26(14) 2(1) 0 - next fight: TBA
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Question: How have the weekends results impacted the rankings?

We are voting on Joshua, Parker, Zhang and Huni

- All I see is 3 suggested vote boxes for Parker and 2 for Zhang.

Don't see any for AJ or Huni.

I vote keep AJ #2, move Parker to #3, Zhang to #4 that should bump Flubber back in any fair poll. Keep Huni where he is.
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Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Joshua, Parker, Zhang, Huni

Post by Ruthless-RKO »

BroughtonRulesRefuge wrote: โ†‘11 Mar 2024, 11:15
- All I see is 3 suggested vote boxes for Parker and 2 for Zhang.

Don't see any for AJ or Huni.

I vote keep AJ #2, move Parker to #3, Zhang to #4 that should bump Flubber back in any fair poll. Keep Huni where he is.
I said..
Ruthless-RKO wrote: โ†‘11 Mar 2024, 05:46 Can vote on AJ and Huni manually.

Huni isn't in the rankings yet.

Vote for Parker and Zhang on the poll.

You get 2 votes. One for each. please use them.
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Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Joshua, Parker, Zhang, Huni

Post by ironbeard »

Joshua remains at #2
Parker to #3
Zhang to #6

Huni remains outside of the top 15.
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Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Joshua, Parker, Zhang, Huni

Post by stpeach »

Joshua stays put,
Huni just outside the top 15 for me, so no change
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Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Joshua, Parker, Zhang, Huni

Post by gregregegg »

Parker and Zhang swap.

Huni to 15. (I donโ€™t think it was the best performance, and ottos last win is better than this win I guess, but gassiev looked poor and Otto looked poor in that fightโ€ฆ plus Otto got demolished last fight)
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Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Joshua, Parker, Zhang, Huni

Post by KiwiRider »

Parker and Zhang swap. That puts Parker above Hrg, his resume is definitely deeper now with recent wins over Zhang and Wilder.
Huni replaces Wallin. Wallin has to do better than just giving Tyson Fury fits because Ngannou did that and we saw his true level last weekend.
Joshua did what was asked of him. It looked a fairly decent fight in the lead up, but wasn't. I don't think he should be any lower because of it.

Edit: Might be a bit of Antipodean bias with Huni, but I've been watching him for a while and the kids got promise, even if he is a bit small.
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Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Joshua, Parker, Zhang, Huni

Post by margaret thatcher »

parker to 4
zhang to 6

no other changes
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Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Joshua, Parker, Zhang, Huni

Post by oogiebe »

Given the choices

Parker to 4
Zhang to 6
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Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Joshua, Parker, Zhang, Huni

Post by DrDuke »

Parker 4.
Zhang 6.

Joshua 3.

Huni 15.
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Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Joshua, Parker, Zhang, Huni

Post by Perkin Warbeck »

1. Usyk
2. Joshua
3. Parker
4. Fury
5. Hrgovic
6. Zhang
7. Kabayel
8. Bakole
9. Joyce
10. Sanchez
11. Wallin
12. Ajagba
13. Dubois
14. Huni
15. Makhmudov
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Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Joshua, Parker, Zhang, Huni

Post by George_Jones88 »

Joshua 2
Huni stays out
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Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Joshua, Parker, Zhang, Huni

Post by margaret thatcher »

huni is very young for a hw and has plenty of time to improve, but not impressed in his last few fights, looks like a guy without the power + chin combo for his style. i guess the lower top 15 is weak enough that he has an argument though, at least he's in shape and has some gas
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Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Joshua, Parker, Zhang, Huni

Post by gilgamesh »

I'd have the Top 5 as

1. Usyk
2. Fury
3. Joshua
4. Parker
5. Hrgovic

Zhang at 6. If you wanted to switch out Zhang and Hrgovic that's perfectly reasonable.
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Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Joshua, Parker, Zhang, Huni

Post by KiwiRider »

margaret thatcher wrote: โ†‘12 Mar 2024, 10:45 huni is very young for a hw and has plenty of time to improve, but not impressed in his last few fights, looks like a guy without the power + chin combo for his style. i guess the lower top 15 is weak enough that he has an argument though, at least he's in shape and has some gas
I think we are at a juncture where so many of the top heavies are getting close to retirement and what is coming up doesn't meet the current standards
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Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Joshua, Parker, Zhang, Huni

Post by joshj909 »

Take it we'll be voting on Joyce and Whyte after tonight? Might be tough trying to work out where to wedge Whyte into our rankings
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Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Joshua, Parker, Zhang, Huni

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joshj909 wrote: โ†‘17 Mar 2024, 10:34 Take it we'll be voting on Joyce and Whyte after tonight? Might be tough trying to work out where to wedge Whyte into our rankings
Would he have still been in the ranking? When we did the overhaul?
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Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Joshua, Parker, Zhang, Huni

Post by Ruthless-RKO »

The vote is over.

Changes: Parker and Zhang swap places.

Current ranking:
Image ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ฆ Oleksandr Usyk - 21(14) 0 0 - next fight: 18.05.2024 vs. ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง Tyson Fury - 34(24) 0 1 - (#3)

2. ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง Anthony Joshua - 28(25) 3(1) 0 - next fight: TBA

3. ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง Tyson Fury - 34(24) 0 1 - next fight: 18.05.2024 vs. ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ฆ Oleksandr Usyk - 21(14) 0 0 - (Image)

4. ๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡ฟ Joseph Parker - 35(23) 3(1) 0 - next fight: TBA

5. ๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡ท Filip Hrgovic - 17(14) 0 0 - next fight: TBA

6. ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ณ Zhilei Zhang - 24(21) 2(0) 1 - next fight: TBA

7. ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง Joe Joyce - 16(15) 2(2) 0 - next fight: TBA

8. ๐Ÿ‡ฉ๐Ÿ‡ช Agit Kabayel - 24(16) 0(0) 0 - next fight: TBA

9. ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡บ Frank Sanchez - 24(17) 0 0 - next fight: TBA

10. ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง Daniel Dubois - 20(19) 2(2) 0 - next fight: TBA

11. ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ฉ Martin Bakole - 20(15) 1(1) 0 - next fight: TBA

12. ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ Deontay Wilder - 43(42) 3(2) 1 - next fight: TBA

13. ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ Jared Anderson - 16(15) 0 0 - next fight: 13.04.2024 vs. ๐Ÿ‡ง๐Ÿ‡ช Ryad Merhy - 32(26) 2(1) 0 - (Boxrec's #19)

14. ๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡ฌ Efe Ajagba - 19(14) 1(0) 0 - next fight: 13.04.2024 vs. ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡น Guido Vianello - 12(10) 1(1) 1 - (Boxrec's #96)

15. ๐Ÿ‡ธ๐Ÿ‡ช Otto Wallin - 26(14) 2(1) 0 - next fight: TBA
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Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Joshua, Parker, Zhang, Huni

Post by joshj909 »

Ruthless-RKO wrote: โ†‘17 Mar 2024, 11:19
joshj909 wrote: โ†‘17 Mar 2024, 10:34 Take it we'll be voting on Joyce and Whyte after tonight? Might be tough trying to work out where to wedge Whyte into our rankings
Would he have still been in the ranking? When we did the overhaul?
I reckon he would have. Despite being relatively inactive and only having a win over Franklin over the past 2 years, the depth in his resume over the previous few years was easily top 3. Not sure where I'd have him, maybe 10-15 at the moment, but I think a few might have him higher.
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Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Joshua, Parker, Zhang, Huni

Post by CMCanavessi »

Joyce needs to go down
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Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Joshua, Parker, Zhang, Huni

Post by Ruthless-RKO »

CMCanavessi wrote: โ†‘17 Mar 2024, 13:11 Joyce needs to go down
We gonna vote on him this week
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