Errors on Ring Magazine Ratings page

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Simon Lock
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Errors on Ring Magazine Ratings page

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Boxrec helpfully has a record of annual ratings from Ring Magazine here:

https://boxrec.com/wiki/index.php/The_R ... al_Ratings

Unfortunately, there seem to be some errors.

For example: https://boxrec.com/wiki/index.php/The_R ... ings:_1966

This claims to be the ratings from the March 1967 edition, for the year ended 1966.

I have that magazine in front of me, and the ratings for Heavyweights show the following:

Clay (Ali) - Champion
1) Terrell
2) Folley
3) Spencer
4) Mildenberger
5) Patterson
6) Jones
7) Lincoln
8) Chuvalo
9) Cooper
10) Bonavena

This is different from what Boxrec shows, which is :

Ali, Champion
1) Terrell
2) Folley
3) Spencer
4) Patterson
5) Mildenberger
6) Frazier
7) Bonavena
8) Chuvalo
9) Persol
10) Ramos

There are also differences with the other weight classes.

How do we get this corrected?
nobleart1978
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Re: Errors on Ring Magazine Ratings page

Post by nobleart1978 »

Unfortunately, The Ring, or to be more accurate it's editor, Nat Fleischer made many errors regarding ratings.
Fleischer would very often put a fighter in the wrong division.
Every March he used to rank every fighter in the world in a "special" edition. The top 10 would often differ from the previous months ratings for no apparent reason. Fleischer was, unfortunately, prone to make mistakes.
Simon Lock
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Re: Errors on Ring Magazine Ratings page

Post by Simon Lock »

Thanks, but unless I'm misunderstanding something this seems to be a difference between what Boxrec says Ring's ratings were, and what they actually were. Whether Ring's ratings were consistent with previous ratings is a separate issue.
wouter
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Re: Errors on Ring Magazine Ratings page

Post by wouter »

Simon Lock wrote: 10 Mar 2024, 13:18 Boxrec helpfully has a record of annual ratings from Ring Magazine here:

https://boxrec.com/wiki/index.php/The_R ... al_Ratings

Unfortunately, there seem to be some errors.

For example: https://boxrec.com/wiki/index.php/The_R ... ings:_1966

This claims to be the ratings from the March 1967 edition, for the year ended 1966.

I have that magazine in front of me, and the ratings for Heavyweights show the following:

Clay (Ali) - Champion
1) Terrell
2) Folley
3) Spencer
4) Mildenberger
5) Patterson
6) Jones
7) Lincoln
8) Chuvalo
9) Cooper
10) Bonavena

This is different from what Boxrec shows, which is :

Ali, Champion
1) Terrell
2) Folley
3) Spencer
4) Patterson
5) Mildenberger
6) Frazier
7) Bonavena
8) Chuvalo
9) Persol
10) Ramos

There are also differences with the other weight classes.

How do we get this corrected?
Sorry for the stupid question, but are you sure? It would be strange for the Ring to rate Bonavena but not Frazier who had beaten him in September 1966.
Simon Lock
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Re: Errors on Ring Magazine Ratings page

Post by Simon Lock »

I’ve just checked, see this image:
https://ibb.co/8MVMR0R
1382140
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Re: Errors on Ring Magazine Ratings page

Post by 1382140 »

I seem to be misunderstood; there appears to be a discrepancy between the ratings.
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Simon Lock
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Re: Errors on Ring Magazine Ratings page

Post by Simon Lock »

wouter wrote: 16 Mar 2024, 07:23 Sorry for the stupid question, but are you sure? It would be strange for the Ring to rate Bonavena but not Frazier who had beaten him in September 1966.
Hi, I’ve taken a picture of the magazine here:

https://ibb.co/8MVMR0R

Can you confirm whether I am correct, and if so can the page be updated? Thanks
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