BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Joyce vs. Ali

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Current ranking:
Oleksandr Usyk - 21(14) 0 0 - next fight: 18.05.2024 vs. Tyson Fury - 34(24) 0 1 - (#3)

2. Anthony Joshua - 28(25) 3(1) 0 - next fight: TBA

3. Tyson Fury - 34(24) 0 1 - next fight: 18.05.2024 vs. Oleksandr Usyk - 21(14) 0 0 - ()

4. Joseph Parker - 35(23) 3(1) 0 - next fight: TBA

5. Filip Hrgovic - 17(14) 0 0 - next fight: TBA

6. Zhilei Zhang - 24(21) 2(0) 1 - next fight: TBA

7. Joe Joyce - 16(15) 2(2) 0 - next fight: TBA

8. Agit Kabayel - 24(16) 0(0) 0 - next fight: 18.05.2024 vs. Frank Sanchez - 24(17) 0 0- (#9)

9. Frank Sanchez - 24(17) 0 0 - next fight: 18.05.2024 vs. Agit Kabayel - 24(16) 0(0) 0 - (#8)

10. Daniel Dubois - 20(19) 2(2) 0 - next fight: TBA

11. Martin Bakole - 20(15) 1(1) 0 - next fight: TBA

12. Deontay Wilder - 43(42) 3(2) 1 - next fight: TBA

13. Jared Anderson - 16(15) 0 0 - next fight: 13.04.2024 vs. Ryad Merhy - 32(26) 2(1) 0 - (Boxrec's #19)

14. Efe Ajagba - 19(14) 1(0) 0 - next fight: 13.04.2024 vs. Guido Vianello - 12(10) 1(1) 1 - (Boxrec's #96)

15. Otto Wallin - 26(14) 2(1) 0 - next fight: TBA
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Question: How does Joyce stopping Ali affect the current rankings?

[joshj909]

Joyce fine where he is so no change. Although he has two consecutive losses to #6 in Zhang, he also has a win over #4 in Parker less than 2 years ago which is the second best victory in our current rankings over the past 2 years after Usyk beating Joshua.

I would bring Whyte in at #12. His record over the past few years is an L Fury, W over Franklin and W over Hammer. Realistically only the Franklin result matters and I think that's a better scalp than Wilder and Sanchez have since 2022 but worse than most others. Wilder and Sanchez are both way too high for me so I would just have to make a compromise here.

This makes my own rankings:
1. Usyk
2. Parker
3. Hrgovic
4. Joshua
5. Zhang
6. Fury
7. Joyce
8. Kabayel
9. Bakole
10. Makhmudov
11. Ajagba
12. Dubois
13. Anderson
14. Wallin
15. Whyte

[KiwiRider]

Joyce had a low level fight, and a fairly low level performance.
He got the job done, as expected, but Ali was able to land flush and frequently on Joyce. Not the sort of reset and improve you would expect from a guy coming off two losses because he couldn't defend himself.
Realistically, you would expect him to try out defensive tactics on a guy he is levels above, and he didn't.
Not expecting massive improvement obviously, but some at least.

[gregregegg]

Down one because he was copping bombs that a sloth could dodge. But nothing more because he took em well.

Joyce is the ultiment styles make fights guy, so ranking him is near impossible. Could be 5th could be 50th depending on who’s in front of him.

[CMCanavessi]

Voted other (10). Ahead of Bakole and below Dubois.

[badawiy]

Mostly agree with what's said above, but I'd throw in that's his below Kabayel too.

[oogiebe]

He did nothing to go down and nothing to go up. No change.

[Ruthless-RKO]

25.05.2024 - Arslanbek Makhmudov - 18(17) 1(1) 0 - (Boxrec's #32) vs. Junior Fa - 20(11) 3(2) 0 - (Boxrec's #200)

[margaret thatcher]

joe 8

[joshj909]

25.05.2024 - Arslanbek Makhmudov - 18(17) 1(1) 0 - (Boxrec's #32) vs. Junior Fa - 20(11) 3(2) 0 - (Boxrec's #200)

Fa starting to cash out. Early KO and hopefully a quick turnaround for Makhmudov.

[gregregegg]

25.05.2024 - Arslanbek Makhmudov - 18(17) 1(1) 0 - (Boxrec's #32) vs. Junior Fa - 20(11) 3(2) 0 - (Boxrec's #200)

Weird fight. Mak should mak truck him. But if the very best version of fa turns up he could give mak a fight.

[margaret thatcher]

fa hasnt beaten someone with a win in going on 5 years

[oogiebe]

fa hasnt beaten someone with a win in going on 5 years

I thought you were kidding until I viewed his record. LMFAO!!!

[gregregegg]

fa hasnt beaten someone with a win in going on 5 years

Wild stat.

Although 3 years ago he went pretty close with Parker.

Fa is pretty dam bad but not as bad as that stat suggests ^^^

Got absolutely dinged vs brown too, shit one to have on the record.

Hope he gives mac a fight, hard to imagine though.

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8. Agit Kabayel - 24(16) 0(0) 0 - next fight: 18.05.2024 vs. Frank Sanchez - 24(17) 0 0- (#9)

9. Frank Sanchez - 24(17) 0 0 - next fight: 18.05.2024 vs. Agit Kabayel - 24(16) 0(0) 0 - (#8)

[oogiebe]

8. Agit Kabayel - 24(16) 0(0) 0 - next fight: 18.05.2024 vs. Frank Sanchez - 24(17) 0 0- (#9)

9. Frank Sanchez - 24(17) 0 0 - next fight: 18.05.2024 vs. Agit Kabayel - 24(16) 0(0) 0 - (#8)

Now that is interesting. Could have impact on rankings for certain.

[tiny_acres]

8. Agit Kabayel - 24(16) 0(0) 0 - next fight: 18.05.2024 vs. Frank Sanchez - 24(17) 0 0- (#9)

9. Frank Sanchez - 24(17) 0 0 - next fight: 18.05.2024 vs. Agit Kabayel - 24(16) 0(0) 0 - (#8)

Now that is interesting. Could have impact on rankings for certain.

Most evenly matched heavyweights fighting so far this year

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8. Agit Kabayel - 24(16) 0(0) 0 - next fight: 18.05.2024 vs. Frank Sanchez - 24(17) 0 0- (#9)

9. Frank Sanchez - 24(17) 0 0 - next fight: 18.05.2024 vs. Agit Kabayel - 24(16) 0(0) 0 - (#8)

Now that is interesting. Could have impact on rankings for certain.

Course it is. They both ranked next to each other.

Glad this Saudi money has got Kabayel active.

And we’re getting contenders fighting other contenders and not the likes of Alexander Flores

[Ruthless-RKO]

Will wrap this up tmoro

[Ruthless-RKO]

The vote is over.

Joe Joyce moves down to #8

Current ranking:
Oleksandr Usyk - 21(14) 0 0 - next fight: 18.05.2024 vs. Tyson Fury - 34(24) 0 1 - (#3)

2. Anthony Joshua - 28(25) 3(1) 0 - next fight: TBA

3. Tyson Fury - 34(24) 0 1 - next fight: 18.05.2024 vs. Oleksandr Usyk - 21(14) 0 0 - ()

4. Joseph Parker - 35(23) 3(1) 0 - next fight: TBA

5. Filip Hrgovic - 17(14) 0 0 - next fight: TBA

6. Zhilei Zhang - 24(21) 2(0) 1 - next fight: TBA

7. Agit Kabayel - 24(16) 0(0) 0 - next fight: 18.05.2024 vs. Frank Sanchez - 24(17) 0 0- (#9)

8. Joe Joyce - 16(15) 2(2) 0 - next fight: TBA

9. Frank Sanchez - 24(17) 0 0 - next fight: 18.05.2024 vs. Agit Kabayel - 24(16) 0(0) 0 - (#7)

10. Daniel Dubois - 20(19) 2(2) 0 - next fight: TBA

11. Martin Bakole - 20(15) 1(1) 0 - next fight: TBA

12. Deontay Wilder - 43(42) 3(2) 1 - next fight: TBA

13. Jared Anderson - 16(15) 0 0 - next fight: 13.04.2024 vs. Ryad Merhy - 32(26) 2(1) 0 - (Boxrec's #19)

14. Efe Ajagba - 19(14) 1(0) 0 - next fight: 13.04.2024 vs. Guido Vianello - 12(10) 1(1) 1 - (Boxrec's #96)

15. Otto Wallin - 26(14) 2(1) 0 - next fight: TBA
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[Perkin Warbeck]

Martin Bakole will face Cassius Chaney in Florida on May 31st on the Don King card (main event Adrien Broner vs Blair Cobbs).

[joshj909]

Martin Bakole will face Cassius Chaney in Florida on May 31st on the Don King card (main event Adrien Broner vs Blair Cobbs).

Bakole should be much better than Chaney but Chaney is ranked #7 by the WBA so that shows what Bakole's target is. He's ranked WBA #1 so he's either angling for the WBA mandatory or the WBA Regular mandatory. Charr Vs Pulev is happening for the Regular while Joshua and Parker follow Bakole in the rankings so an eliminator with one of them could be called for the full belt if that's what the plan is.

Let's hope Bakole hasn't signed one of King's poison contracts to get it done.

[joshj909]

The vote is over.

Joe Joyce moves down to #8

Current ranking:
Oleksandr Usyk - 21(14) 0 0 - next fight: 18.05.2024 vs. Tyson Fury - 34(24) 0 1 - (#3)

2. Anthony Joshua - 28(25) 3(1) 0 - next fight: TBA

3. Tyson Fury - 34(24) 0 1 - next fight: 18.05.2024 vs. Oleksandr Usyk - 21(14) 0 0 - ()

4. Joseph Parker - 35(23) 3(1) 0 - next fight: TBA

5. Filip Hrgovic - 17(14) 0 0 - next fight: TBA

6. Zhilei Zhang - 24(21) 2(0) 1 - next fight: TBA

7. Agit Kabayel - 24(16) 0(0) 0 - next fight: 18.05.2024 vs. Frank Sanchez - 24(17) 0 0- (#9)

8. Joe Joyce - 16(15) 2(2) 0 - next fight: TBA

9. Frank Sanchez - 24(17) 0 0 - next fight: 18.05.2024 vs. Agit Kabayel - 24(16) 0(0) 0 - (#7)

10. Daniel Dubois - 20(19) 2(2) 0 - next fight: TBA

11. Martin Bakole - 20(15) 1(1) 0 - next fight: TBA

12. Deontay Wilder - 43(42) 3(2) 1 - next fight: TBA

13. Jared Anderson - 16(15) 0 0 - next fight: 13.04.2024 vs. Ryad Merhy - 32(26) 2(1) 0 - (Boxrec's #19)

14. Efe Ajagba - 19(14) 1(0) 0 - next fight: 13.04.2024 vs. Guido Vianello - 12(10) 1(1) 1 - (Boxrec's #96)

15. Otto Wallin - 26(14) 2(1) 0 - next fight: TBA
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Then we should have:
Hrgovic Vs Dubois
Zhang Vs Wilder
Bakole Vs Chaney
Then Anderson and Makhmudov have some more one-sided fights keeping them busy.

Parker has also just called out Whyte.

[gregregegg]

Parker has been ring top 10 for 419 weeks now. Pretty impressive. Looks on track to make a decade on the ring top 10… very solid achievement from a guy many consider/considered b grade…


Wilder has a decade ring top 10 although hard for me to see a strong argument for him being too 10 now…