Tyson Fury vs. Oleksandr Usyk | PPV - 18 May 2024

[IrishGuy]

Any thoughts on the rest of the card, thread is far to big for me to fully scrawl too it. Looking forward to seeing in Frank sanchezs last fight was a one off fast performance

[jwfg]

Any thoughts on the rest of the card, thread is far to big for me to fully scrawl too it. Looking forward to seeing in Frank sanchezs last fight was a one off fast performance

I quite fancy Kabayel for the upset, but not enough to bet on it.

[jamesmcdonnell]

Is Usyk's complaint essentially the same that Fury's was back then?

I think Fury's team were unhappy about the padding, as it was making the canvas too bouncy and soft - takes a fighters legs away if you have too much give in the canvas, obviously as the plan was to move a lot, they were worried that it would suit Wlad, who was less mobile than Fury.

From what I can see Usyks team are complaining about a very fine indentation where two of the boards underneath the canvas are married together - it looks very minor, but I can understand why they wouldn't want to take any chances.

the big difference, is that in this case, a potential trip hazard doesn't really play into either man's advantage.

It's crazy that the ring size, canvas type, gloves etc are not all standard

There is so much goes on behind the scenes in that regard, and also in the past, accomodation, training venues etc, especially where home advantage is concerned.

I'm not sure the various commissions even have agreed minimum and maximum sizes for a ring, which i think is usually anywhere from 16 foot square, to 24 foot square, which is a fornicating huge variance.

[Ruthless-RKO]

Any thoughts on the rest of the card, thread is far to big for me to fully scrawl too it. Looking forward to seeing in Frank sanchezs last fight was a one off fast performance

viewtopic.php?t=261915

has its own thread here

[olij999]

I think Fury's team were unhappy about the padding, as it was making the canvas too bouncy and soft - takes a fighters legs away if you have too much give in the canvas, obviously as the plan was to move a lot, they were worried that it would suit Wlad, who was less mobile than Fury.

From what I can see Usyks team are complaining about a very fine indentation where two of the boards underneath the canvas are married together - it looks very minor, but I can understand why they wouldn't want to take any chances.

the big difference, is that in this case, a potential trip hazard doesn't really play into either man's advantage.

It's crazy that the ring size, canvas type, gloves etc are not all standard

There is so much goes on behind the scenes in that regard, and also in the past, accomodation, training venues etc, especially where home advantage is concerned.

I'm not sure the various commissions even have agreed minimum and maximum sizes for a ring, which i think is usually anywhere from 16 foot square, to 24 foot square, which is a fornicating huge variance.

For BBBofC-governed shows, it's 16 ft to 20 ft, per rule 3.4 at https://bbbofc.com/build/documents/Rule ... s_2023.pdf

As you say, a massive variance - the 20ft ring is 56% bigger in area than the 16ft ring, so a real advantage to a fighter who likes to move. And if a fighter has come up through small hall shows, where many promoters will often go for a 16ft ring simply because it may allow them an extra row of chairs at ringside, I would expect it's a real shock if/when they have to fight in a much bigger ring - must seem like being in a field.

Haven't heard of a 24ft limit - where is/was that happening? I always like a geeky stat...

[Flump]

It's crazy that the ring size, canvas type, gloves etc are not all standard

There is so much goes on behind the scenes in that regard, and also in the past, accomodation, training venues etc, especially where home advantage is concerned.

I'm not sure the various commissions even have agreed minimum and maximum sizes for a ring, which i think is usually anywhere from 16 foot square, to 24 foot square, which is a fornicating huge variance.

For BBBofC-governed shows, it's 16 ft to 20 ft, per rule 3.4 at https://bbbofc.com/build/documents/Rule ... s_2023.pdf

As you say, a massive variance - the 20ft ring is 56% bigger in area than the 16ft ring, so a real advantage to a fighter who likes to move. And if a fighter has come up through small hall shows, where many promoters will often go for a 16ft ring simply because it may allow them an extra row of chairs at ringside, I would expect it's a real shock if/when they have to fight in a much bigger ring - must seem like being in a field.

Haven't heard of a 24ft limit - where is/was that happening? I always like a geeky stat...

I may have this wrong, but I have it in my head that the ring for Ali v Cooper II at Highbury was 24ft.

[Flump]

Looking forward to this. Some good matches on the card.

[JamesPhilips]

Looking forward to this. Some good matches on the card.

Have all the weigh ins already happened? Looks like all we’re getting is those disingenuous ceremonial weigh ins at 7pm. Cordina Cacace have already weighed in. Might be different with Fury - Usyk as there is no weight limit.

[jwfg]

Looking forward to this. Some good matches on the card.

Have all the weigh ins already happened? Looks like all we’re getting is those disingenuous ceremonial weigh ins at 7pm. Cordina Cacace have already weighed in. Might be different with Fury - Usyk as there is no weight limit.

I don't understand the reasoning behind the first weigh in, is it incase they need to take their shreddies off to make weight?

[jamesmcdonnell]

It's crazy that the ring size, canvas type, gloves etc are not all standard

There is so much goes on behind the scenes in that regard, and also in the past, accomodation, training venues etc, especially where home advantage is concerned.

I'm not sure the various commissions even have agreed minimum and maximum sizes for a ring, which i think is usually anywhere from 16 foot square, to 24 foot square, which is a fornicating huge variance.

For BBBofC-governed shows, it's 16 ft to 20 ft, per rule 3.4 at https://bbbofc.com/build/documents/Rule ... s_2023.pdf

As you say, a massive variance - the 20ft ring is 56% bigger in area than the 16ft ring, so a real advantage to a fighter who likes to move. And if a fighter has come up through small hall shows, where many promoters will often go for a 16ft ring simply because it may allow them an extra row of chairs at ringside, I would expect it's a real shock if/when they have to fight in a much bigger ring - must seem like being in a field.

Haven't heard of a 24ft limit - where is/was that happening? I always like a geeky stat...

That was wikipedia, but each commission has it's own rules.

[olij999]

There is so much goes on behind the scenes in that regard, and also in the past, accomodation, training venues etc, especially where home advantage is concerned.

I'm not sure the various commissions even have agreed minimum and maximum sizes for a ring, which i think is usually anywhere from 16 foot square, to 24 foot square, which is a fornicating huge variance.

For BBBofC-governed shows, it's 16 ft to 20 ft, per rule 3.4 at https://bbbofc.com/build/documents/Rule ... s_2023.pdf

As you say, a massive variance - the 20ft ring is 56% bigger in area than the 16ft ring, so a real advantage to a fighter who likes to move. And if a fighter has come up through small hall shows, where many promoters will often go for a 16ft ring simply because it may allow them an extra row of chairs at ringside, I would expect it's a real shock if/when they have to fight in a much bigger ring - must seem like being in a field.

Haven't heard of a 24ft limit - where is/was that happening? I always like a geeky stat...

I may have this wrong, but I have it in my head that the ring for Ali v Cooper II at Highbury was 24ft.

Interesting - will see what I can find out on that. Thank you!

[JamesPhilips]

Looking forward to this. Some good matches on the card.

Have all the weigh ins already happened? Looks like all we’re getting is those disingenuous ceremonial weigh ins at 7pm. Cordina Cacace have already weighed in. Might be different with Fury - Usyk as there is no weight limit.

I don't understand the reasoning behind the first weigh in, is it incase they need to take their shreddies off to make weight?

Not sure really. I think it’s likely a control thing. UFC have been doing this for ages and it’s creeping into boxing.

[jwfg]

Have all the weigh ins already happened? Looks like all we’re getting is those disingenuous ceremonial weigh ins at 7pm. Cordina Cacace have already weighed in. Might be different with Fury - Usyk as there is no weight limit.

I don't understand the reasoning behind the first weigh in, is it incase they need to take their shreddies off to make weight?

Not sure really. I think it’s likely a control thing. UFC have been doing this for ages and it’s creeping into boxing.

Maybe it's in case they need to reweigh?

[JamesPhilips]

I don't understand the reasoning behind the first weigh in, is it incase they need to take their shreddies off to make weight?

Not sure really. I think it’s likely a control thing. UFC have been doing this for ages and it’s creeping into boxing.

Maybe it's in case they need to reweigh?

Yeah I thought that but so what that’s been happening for years. It’s actually quite rare to miss weight and if they do, the announcer informs the crowd the fighter has 2 hours to make the weight. The real weigh ins are a buzz and it’s important to see the true shape. Hiding the true weigh in Ali’s invites accusations of manipulation.

[Controversial]

Tyson said he's 19 stone and can't understand why people think he looks skinny, so same weight as against Whyte and Chisora.

[big lennox]

What a great photo!

https://x.com/MichaelBensonn/status/179 ... gr%5Etweet

[Controversial]

Usyk 233.5 lbs

[Controversial]

Fury 262lbs (18 stone 10lbs)
Usyk 233.5lbs (16 stone 6lbs)

Edit. Usyk is 223 (it was announced incorrectly)

[Controversial]

Fury lightest since Wallin. Usyk career heaviest

[tony1234]

Fury fornicate this, fornicate that , in the interview

[jwfg]

Fury 262lbs (18 stone 10lbs)
Usyk 233.5lbs (16 stone 6lbs)

I've said it before and I'll say it again. Usyk's gonna take the center of the ring and push the pace.

[Controversial]

A few people seem to be doubting Usyk is that heavy, seem to think he is wearing heavy stuff to make himself appear heavier

[jwfg]

A few people seem to be doubting Usyk is that heavy, seem to think he is wearing heavy stuff to make himself appear heavier

Like Leonard for the Hagler fight. Maybe.

[tigermoth87]

Fury seems intimidated here.

[jwfg]

Fury seems intimidated here.

Looked like Hypomania to me. Usyk will be 100% focus when the first bell rings tomorrow night. IMO Fury will be fighting on instincts and against the Ukrainian, it won't be enough.