Oleksandr Usyk vs. Tyson Fury II | PPV - 21 December 2024

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Who wins the rematch?

Poll ended at 21 Dec 2024, 10:44

Usyk - Decision
53
38%
Usyk - T/KO
44
31%
DRAW
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5%
Fury - T/KO
15
11%
Fury - Decision
22
16%
 
Total votes: 141

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Oleksandr Usyk vs. Tyson Fury II | PPV - 21 December 2024

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Oleksandr Usyk vs Tyson Fury Rematch Date Confirmed

- His Excellency, Turki Alalshikh, has confirmed that a rematch between Oleksandr Usyk and Tyson Fury is being planned.
- The Saudi boxing chief is eyeing up the 21st of December for the mouthwatering contest to take place.
- The Ukrainian became the first undisputed heavyweight champion of the world since Lennox Lewis in 1999 when he defeated 'The Gypsy King' earlier this month.

His Excellency, Turki Alalshikh, has confirmed that the rematch between Oleksandr Usyk and Tyson Fury is being planned for the 21st of December in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia.

Taking to X - formerly known as Twitter - Alalshikh tweeted: "The rematch between the Undisputed Champion Oleksandr Usyk and the Champion Tyson Fury is now scheduled on the 21 of December 2024 during Riyadh Season...The world will watch another historical fight again...Our commitment to boxing fans continues...We hope you enjoy it."

The Ukrainian became the first undisputed heavyweight champion of the world since Lennox Lewis in 1999 when he defeated 'The Gypsy King' earlier this month.

The 37-year-old secured a tight split decision win on the judges' scorecards after an epic battle at Kingdom Arena. The official score totals read 115-112 Usyk, 114-113 Fury & 114-113 Usyk.
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Re: Oleksandr Usyk vs. Tyson Fury II - October 2024

Post by Boxerbeetle »

Has anyone ever pulled a full set of statistics on boxing rematches and the proportions where the outcomes stayed the same or were reversed? Would be interesting reading.

Anyway, I'd go for Usyk points again but no result would really surprise me.
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Re: Oleksandr Usyk vs. Tyson Fury II - October 2024

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this fight and camps will have had a toll on fury as well as the defeat .
A hew months to try and improve in some way ???

Not seeing it for fury - but Usyk lives a clean disciplined life and will stay in shape have a holiday and be back in training soon working on what he could do to make adjustments etc .

KO in October - but I doubt it will happen anyway .

Fury might start thinking of a wilder rematch as an easier way to $$$$ or even go for the AJ fight as a mega cash out .
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Re: Oleksandr Usyk vs. Tyson Fury II - October 2024

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I’m also wondering if they may try and make the AJ fight now. Still feels like a huge event. Then the winner is more marketable vs Usyk if he’s still around.
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Re: Oleksandr Usyk vs. Tyson Fury II - October 2024

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Boxerbeetle wrote: 19 May 2024, 10:48 Has anyone ever pulled a full set of statistics on boxing rematches and the proportions where the outcomes stayed the same or were reversed? Would be interesting reading.

Anyway, I'd go for Usyk points again but no result would really surprise me.
No idea, would love to see it. Sounds like a job for Ruth. I might even go an write some of it down to see.

Years and years ago, a wise man told me that you should always bet on the boxer in the rematch. That’s generally held true and won me a few quid. Easier win for Usyk if there is a rematch
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Re: Oleksandr Usyk vs. Tyson Fury II - October 2024

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It was an even fight, where the KD was crucial, so anything can happen.
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Re: Oleksandr Usyk vs. Tyson Fury II - October 2024

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J-C wrote: 19 May 2024, 11:30I’m also wondering if they may try and make the AJ fight now. Still feels like a huge event. Then the winner is more marketable vs Usyk if he’s still around.
I'm hoping this happens.

AJ and Fury did about as well as each other against Usyk, and though we realise Fury overlooked Ngannou, he joined the list of Fury opponents KO'd by AJ*, who's on his career-best run since beating Wlad. That was also a peak Fury last night, so I think the timing's actually perfect for Joshua-Fury.

Surprisingly it's not too late to be huge, but if Fury lost again to Usyk it would be. Wouldn't happen in the UK as it should, but hey.

*Johnson, Klitschko, Wallin, Ngannou.
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Re: Oleksandr Usyk vs. Tyson Fury II - October 2024

Post by Miguello »

Really hoping this doesn't happen and Fury calls it a day. He will be 36 in a few months and Uysk is already 37.

Usyk beat him clearly and these rematch clauses are hurting the sport. He had to beat Joshua TWICE. If he has to beat Fury twice as well there is something fundamentally wrong with this sport.

Fury should have a farewell fight with AJ to settle the score. But I doubt he will be up for it.
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Re: Oleksandr Usyk vs. Tyson Fury II - October 2024

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Agreed. I think these contracted rematches always favour the loser, forcing the winner into a hold-lose position with fans. If it's a new champ who took the thin end and wants to cash in, that's obviously different. Whenever there's a mutual desire why not.

But the risk-reward's firmly against Usyk when he won fair and square, and I'd rather see him and Fury against others. I much prefer the old way of fighters diverging and rematching on merit of who they beat in the interim.

(And when there were immediate rematches they were weeks later! Not advisable these days re: CTE.)
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Re: Oleksandr Usyk vs. Tyson Fury II - October 2024

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I felt like the 1st fight was a 50/50 fight, and no result would've surprised me.

Even after Usyk's victory I'd still feel the same about the rematch. My gut said Usyk the 1st time around. My gut says Usyk the 2nd time around, but there are many ways I can imagine Fury winning as well. He tagged Usyk with some good uppercuts in there, and it's not hard to imagine one of those sleeping Usyk. It's not hard to imagine Usyk sustaining an injury mid fight that would severely hinder his performance, and allow Fury to take over.

I think it would definitely be another tough night out for both men no matter the result. Neither guy is ever getting their hand raised without a fight here I don't think.
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Re: Oleksandr Usyk vs. Tyson Fury II - October 2024

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usyk suffered a broken jaw in the fight. guess the rematch won't be that 'immediate'.
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Re: Oleksandr Usyk vs. Tyson Fury II - October 2024

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Be another close one, I reckon Uysk will have learnt more, but it's not a fight I would bet on any more!!

Be great for boxing if these fights are made
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Re: Oleksandr Usyk vs. Tyson Fury II - October 2024

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adislav123 wrote: 19 May 2024, 18:45 usyk suffered a broken jaw in the fight. guess the rematch won't be that 'immediate'.
Apparently that was false
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Re: Oleksandr Usyk vs. Tyson Fury II - October 2024

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If I am fury I’m coming in heavy, walk foward punch punch, grab lean. Repeat.
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Re: Oleksandr Usyk vs. Tyson Fury II - October 2024

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gregregegg wrote: 20 May 2024, 02:57 If I am fury I’m coming in heavy, walk foward punch punch, grab lean. Repeat.
Usyk won't allow that to happen.
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Re: Oleksandr Usyk vs. Tyson Fury II - October 2024

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If it happens, I fancy Usyk to get the stoppage.
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514126 wrote: 20 May 2024, 03:24
gregregegg wrote: 20 May 2024, 02:57 If I am fury I’m coming in heavy, walk foward punch punch, grab lean. Repeat.
Usyk won't allow that to happen.
ya that's tthe thing, people act like it's so easy to just maul and bully a guy but it's not really when he's as good as usyk. you gotta catch him, you're gonna take more punches on the way in fighting that way, and youre gonna use up your own stamina doing it.

more aggression aint necessary a bad thing for fury, but usyk isnt just going to passively stand there and let himself get tossed around
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margaret thatcher wrote: 20 May 2024, 04:40
514126 wrote: 20 May 2024, 03:24
gregregegg wrote: 20 May 2024, 02:57 If I am fury I’m coming in heavy, walk foward punch punch, grab lean. Repeat.
Usyk won't allow that to happen.
ya that's tthe thing, people act like it's so easy to just maul and bully a guy but it's not really when he's as good as usyk. you gotta catch him, you're gonna take more punches on the way in fighting that way, and youre gonna use up your own stamina doing it.

more aggression aint necessary a bad thing for fury, but usyk isnt just going to passively stand there and let himself get tossed around
I've not really seen anybody manage to hold and maul Usyk for extended periods, he just pivots and gets out of the way, and/or hits them as they come in to grab,.
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Re: Oleksandr Usyk vs. Tyson Fury II - October 2024

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margaret thatcher wrote: 20 May 2024, 04:40
514126 wrote: 20 May 2024, 03:24
gregregegg wrote: 20 May 2024, 02:57 If I am fury I’m coming in heavy, walk foward punch punch, grab lean. Repeat.
Usyk won't allow that to happen.
ya that's tthe thing, people act like it's so easy to just maul and bully a guy but it's not really when he's as good as usyk. you gotta catch him, you're gonna take more punches on the way in fighting that way, and youre gonna use up your own stamina doing it.

more aggression aint necessary a bad thing for fury, but usyk isnt just going to passively stand there and let himself get tossed around
Fury didn't allow Uysk to punch him in the head either.

Boxing is about imposing your will, and having the ability to do it.

Obviously Uysks tactics won't be having a lean on the inside. The question will be what Fury can impose on him.

I'm sure he will be looking to make adjustments in the rematch.
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Re: Oleksandr Usyk vs. Tyson Fury II - October 2024

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The constant call for immediate rematches all the time is indicative of a generation of gamers. Some people actually want a third usyk v Joshua ?????
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funso banjo baby wrote: 21 May 2024, 07:05 The constant call for immediate rematches all the time is indicative of a generation of gamers. Some people actually want a third usyk v Joshua ?????
I wouldn't be against it but only if Joshua earns it and isn't getting in the way of someone else that is. So far, Joshua hasn't earned it while there are other opponents that have and will be able to ask Usyk different questions in the ring.
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Post by coneye »

would'nt mind watching Kaybayel -- Usyk
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coneye wrote: 21 May 2024, 07:45 would'nt mind watching Kaybayel -- Usyk
Has gone under the radar, seemingly a really good boxer, good shot selection and variety, fast and hits hard.
Apparently good friends with Fury, sparring partners and Fury had looked after him well
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coneye wrote: 21 May 2024, 07:45 would'nt mind watching Kaybayel -- Usyk
The problem is mandatories. Kabayel needs to get himself one because, for the foreseeable future, Usyk is likely only going to be looking at AJ/Fury for the money or mandatories/unifications such as Parker (WBO) or Hrgovic (IBF). Kabayel is probably only one fight away so if he can get a WBC or WBA mandatory then he will be in line.
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joshj909 wrote: 21 May 2024, 08:00
coneye wrote: 21 May 2024, 07:45 would'nt mind watching Kaybayel -- Usyk
The problem is mandatories. Kabayel needs to get himself one because, for the foreseeable future, Usyk is likely only going to be looking at AJ/Fury for the money or mandatories/unifications such as Parker (WBO) or Hrgovic (IBF). Kabayel is probably only one fight away so if he can get a WBC or WBA mandatory then he will be in line.
How do you think he'd fare with Usyk styles make fights , and the constant pressure and hard body shots he favors i think may well negate Usyk a bit , wether it would be enough i don't know
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