Oleksandr Usyk vs. Tyson Fury II | PPV - 21 December 2024

[stujones]

One thing I’ve noticed upon more recent viewings was how often Fury had to pull a face and “mess around” when Usyk tagged him, even in rounds Fury generally controlled.

Had it not been for the 9th you could argue that Fury was taking the piss out of Usyks power. Now you wonder if Tyson was using it to get some recovery time.

I think that's spot on. Fury's so entrenched with the mind games that he feels the need to do it during the fight as well. You don't get points for punching your own head in an act of bravado after getting tagged though, you do get them from punching the opponent's head and stealing back whatever advantage they just gained.
Usyk's pre-fight saying of 'Don't be afraid, I won't leave you alone' was quite literally him telling Fury that he was going to be pressing him and in front of him the whole fight. Fury's little habits of going for a walk to get a breather never worked, Usyk went right after him.
Fury will have noted the success he was having with the right uppercut, both to the head and to Usyk's body. He really did hurt Usyk with it, should have pressed forward a lot more at that point and jumped on him. It was one of the rare moments where Usyk completely backed off.
He was lucky the bell went at that moment after the count in the 9th as he looked totally shattered as the ref counted. Any earlier in the round and the follow up attack may well have ended it.

I think the rematch will just be a continuation of the first fight with both having their moments of success and rounds that can be split either way. Fury needs to use his size advantage to gain more control of the centre of the ring, not allow Usyk to push him back against the ropes so much. Any close rounds might well be given to the fighter seen to be forcing the fight. I'm expecting another close fight, I don't see the first fight and Fury's first loss affecting him mentally, he doesn't have that kind of shrinking mentality.

My thoughts are perhaps Usyk was hurting Fury a bit more than we first thought even in the rounds other than the 9th. It sort of reminded me of Ali posturing in the first Frazier fight. Perhaps he needed his head to clear a bit

[mike john]

always the case - if a fighter reacts to a landed punch, even if its with apparent disdain, it means the punch registered. whenever a boxer feels the need to go out of their way, to make sure everyone knows that a shot didnt bother them, it certainly bothered them. any experienced pro would only be encouraged by the clownish antics of someone trying to pretend said punch had no effect.

[tonyevs]

I thought the first fight was magnificent. Every single second of every single round was hotly contested: there was an intense battle going on, be it mentally or physically.

I felt that Uysk was the worthy winner and Fury a worthy opponent. I'm glad that after all the road blocks and posturing, he stepped up. And he really did. His CV is so much the better for it too.

A rematch is hard to predict because each guy might be that bit more shop warn than before. Personally, I'd like them both to retire with their health in tact. That trumps money and prestige.

If the rematch does happen, and it looks like it will, I can see Fury doing well again but also getting stopped. He was in desperate trouble in that round 9 and Uysk now knows he can hurt him.

Incidentally, Uysk's win over Dubois looks better and better given Dubois' recent wins.

Putting aside the fact I'm very much pro Fury, I don't think there was ever any doubt he wanted the fight. I think all the messing about was over money. I saw first hand all Queensbury and all of Usyk's team getting on like a house on fire in Poland at the Dubois fight. I also got talking to a lawyer who was out there courtesy of team Usyk. He'd been working on the fight from the start and guaranteed all wanted it. I wasn't on here at the time but if I was I'd have had 9 months of piss taking for saying it!

Mickey and another of his moles eh

Did he have cheap seats from Team Usyk .. or did you have expensive seats? Because all a bit random you just bump into the lawyer taking a piss who just happens to share that info eh ..

[mickey1975]

I thought the first fight was magnificent. Every single second of every single round was hotly contested: there was an intense battle going on, be it mentally or physically.

I felt that Uysk was the worthy winner and Fury a worthy opponent. I'm glad that after all the road blocks and posturing, he stepped up. And he really did. His CV is so much the better for it too.

A rematch is hard to predict because each guy might be that bit more shop warn than before. Personally, I'd like them both to retire with their health in tact. That trumps money and prestige.

If the rematch does happen, and it looks like it will, I can see Fury doing well again but also getting stopped. He was in desperate trouble in that round 9 and Uysk now knows he can hurt him.

Incidentally, Uysk's win over Dubois looks better and better given Dubois' recent wins.

Putting aside the fact I'm very much pro Fury, I don't think there was ever any doubt he wanted the fight. I think all the messing about was over money. I saw first hand all Queensbury and all of Usyk's team getting on like a house on fire in Poland at the Dubois fight. I also got talking to a lawyer who was out there courtesy of team Usyk. He'd been working on the fight from the start and guaranteed all wanted it. I wasn't on here at the time but if I was I'd have had 9 months of piss taking for saying it!

Mickey and another of his moles eh

Did he have cheap seats from Team Usyk .. or did you have expensive seats? Because all a bit random you just bump into the lawyer taking a piss who just happens to share that info eh ..

It was sitting outside a coffee shop and there was me, him and Paul Smith at seperate tables talking. He shared absolutely nothing and was quite clear on that. See what I mean? This from a guy who hasn't even watched the fight....

[Counter-puncher]

I thought the first fight was magnificent. Every single second of every single round was hotly contested: there was an intense battle going on, be it mentally or physically.

I felt that Uysk was the worthy winner and Fury a worthy opponent. I'm glad that after all the road blocks and posturing, he stepped up. And he really did. His CV is so much the better for it too.

A rematch is hard to predict because each guy might be that bit more shop warn than before. Personally, I'd like them both to retire with their health in tact. That trumps money and prestige.

If the rematch does happen, and it looks like it will, I can see Fury doing well again but also getting stopped. He was in desperate trouble in that round 9 and Uysk now knows he can hurt him.

Incidentally, Uysk's win over Dubois looks better and better given Dubois' recent wins.

Putting aside the fact I'm very much pro Fury, I don't think there was ever any doubt he wanted the fight. I think all the messing about was over money. I saw first hand all Queensbury and all of Usyk's team getting on like a house on fire in Poland at the Dubois fight. I also got talking to a lawyer who was out there courtesy of team Usyk. He'd been working on the fight from the start and guaranteed all wanted it. I wasn't on here at the time but if I was I'd have had 9 months of piss taking for saying it!

Mickey and another of his moles eh

Did he have cheap seats from Team Usyk .. or did you have expensive seats? Because all a bit random you just bump into the lawyer taking a piss who just happens to share that info eh ..

you need so much help

[mickey1975]

If you are one of a handful of Brits at a fight in a small city like Wroclaw (which is stunning) you will bump into many fight figures over the weekend and they have a very different attitude to what what they would have here.

[tonyevs]

If you are one of a handful of Brits at a fight in a small city like Wroclaw (which is stunning) you will bump into many fight figures over the weekend and they have a very different attitude to what what they would have here.

Still sounds rather random to me Mick. But stranger things have happened I`m sure

[mickey1975]

If you are one of a handful of Brits at a fight in a small city like Wroclaw (which is stunning) you will bump into many fight figures over the weekend and they have a very different attitude to what what they would have here.

Still sounds rather random to me Mick. But stranger things have happened I`m sure

It's not at all. I could give a lot of examples. If you're around the sport, for instance amateur shows you will speak to a lot of big names. Dave Allen, Bostan, Dalton Smith, Sunny, Crawford Ashley all regulars at our local shows. Most of the crowd have no idea who they are. If I was name dropping I'd have told you about Naz being a great guy in Poland...

[Coco]

Maybe Fury won't turn up because he is scared and can't fight.....

[margaret thatcher]

ya we been through that all already

[Ruthless-RKO]

Won’t be for the undisputed then this

[Coco]

Won’t be for the undisputed then this

But the lineal!!

[margaret thatcher]

tyson fury lineal baby

[quickeyg]

Puppet Joshua getting way too much helpy help help lol

[tonyevs]

Its good then belt is kept active and not held up by silly rematches etc.
Stripping the IBF doesn't diminish Usyks standing, and merely saves him sanctioning money to them for the December rematch.

[tigermoth87]

lol it's a bit of joke, how can Joshua or Duboi be called a World Champ when they're fighting over the belt the true champ didn't want.

Basically scrambling for Usyk's sloppy seconds.

[tonyevs]

Usyk beating both AJ and Dubois Is too recent in peoples memory to diminish Usyks standing as the top guy in the division - if they had Anderson and Kabayel fighting for the IBF instead then that may raise some doubts for some fans because both are unbeaten and on the rise ... AJ and Dubois limitations are too well known.

[Nightmare Roy]

AJ DDD is a very interesting fight, I don't think the belt is needed and will add anything of value to it really. We all know who the world champion is, he's cleaned out the division including beating these too.

[mike john]

the belts nothing more than a marketing tool, everyone knows who the champion is. usyk getting a bit of a dig in, degrading the ibf strap by literally stating he's gifting it to the aj v ddd winner, tells you how meaningless it is.

[quickeyg]

Tyson Fury DESTROYED Anthony Joshua on FaceTime - Joshua got triggered

[dookus]

Tyson Fury DESTROYED Anthony Joshua on FaceTime - Joshua got triggered

[Ruthless-RKO]

[mickey1975]

You missed the video he is responding to.

[keithmoonhangover]

tyson fury lineal baby

True dat. Well at least in Fury's head he is. On planet Tyson, he won the fight because it was too easy. What a complete helmet. I honestly thought that when Fury lost a fight he would take it with dignity, but he proved me wrong.

[Ruthless-RKO]

You missed the video he is responding to.

maybe if someone posted it..

This is the only one ive come across.