Womens boxing....very quiet

[Bigdogsnose]

Womens boxing seems to be slowly losing the momentum it built up.

For the first time, for as long as i can remember, scrolling through boxing news and box rec and not 1 women fight is mentioned.

The saudi effect? Undercards are getting stacked with much better quality men fights, the poorer spectacle of the womens being pushed out?

Marshall v shields should have been much more of a watershed moment. In reality it showed that once they fought each other, there was nothing left in the pool for them.

[smiling assassin]

Long may it continue. Another benefit of Saudi money making the sport better for the fans.

[Coco]

Long may it continue. Another benefit of Saudi money making the sport better for the fans.

[deadpan]

I'm not lamenting it either, padding out cards with title fights that so very rarely ignite and far more often suck the atmosphere out of the venue just before the main event. UFC women are far more entertaining.

[Glass Joe]

The problem with womans boxing is they all go the distance cause lack of punch power or all woman got good chins (if the opponent isnt weight drained or shot to crap)
2 minute rounds

Shields - Marshall build up was better than the fight and must have been a huge lose on that show.

[Bigdogsnose]

The problem with womans boxing is they all go the distance cause lack of punch power or all woman got good chins (if the opponent isnt weight drained or shot to crap)
2 minute rounds

Shields - Marshall build up was better than the fight and must have been a huge lose on that show.

Its lack of depth as well. Each division has one or two decent fighters at most. Once they fight, theres nowt much else to go at.

[Ruthless-RKO]

The problem with womans boxing is they all go the distance cause lack of punch power or all woman got good chins (if the opponent isnt weight drained or shot to crap)
2 minute rounds

Shields - Marshall build up was better than the fight and must have been a huge lose on that show.

Honestly though, they allow UFC women's to fight the same times as men.

We've seen women's fights where we seen momentum building up after 1 round, then bam! 2 rounds done and round finishes. They should get 30 seconds in between rounds if that's the case.

[Coco]

Women's UFC is more entertaining

But the only reason women boxers get work is because they are cheap, with Turky, fast car doesn't need to save a few quid

[Controversial]

I'm all for equal opportunities but women's boxing doesn't interest me. I've seen some good scraps but the divisions are too shallow to maintain any real interest or excitement. Their lack of power doesn't help.

[margaret thatcher]

it's a buzzkill for the most part

make fights longer? eh, i dont know if i want more women's boxing. amanda serrano made a bunch of noise about that, got her extra minutes and rounds, and couldnt come close to a stoppage

[forcefraser]

Thr promoters are not so keen anymore allnof a sudden. That Saudi dollar talks

Good old Turks. He is a boxing fans dream

[forcefraser]

I recall the sickening bull turd speech from Hearn

"I dream of a day when I can put on an all women card and we sellout Wembley arena, not as a gimmick, not because it's a women card, but because the fans appreciate quality and are unconcerned whether it's men or women fighting, it's just boxing, pure and simple. I'm passionate about women's boxing and I absolutely will not stop until we no longer see a female boxer or a male boxer, we just see a boxer. We are one, all gods creatures. Jeez"

He soon lost that passion when the Saudi dollar said "Eddie, NO WOMEN ON THESE CARDS"

[damage]

Has there been a Womens fight in Saudi ?

[tonyevs]

I wouldn't imagine many women would list boxing as a sport they'd enjoy to watch - very few men boxing fans would choose to watch women boxing .. it's a very small niche isn't it.

[gilgamesh]

It's never gonna be a big sport because you'll seldom ever truly have 2 equal talents in their prime at the same time among the women. On the rare occasion that you have a big talent like Laila Ali or Claressa Shields. There's nobody for them to fight.

And when Laila actually had a rival in Anne Wolfe, she ducked her. So I mean. That's Women's Boxing.

Either 2 girls with no talent or 1 talented girl beating the sh*t out of an untalented girl.

It also doesn't help that you seldom ever seem to see knockouts. It happens some of course, but not nearly as often as it does on the Men's side.

[Noxy]

I’ve seen some cracking women’s fights. It’s still a relatively recent development in the sport. They’ll get better.

[Ruthless-RKO]

I recall the sickening bull turd speech from Hearn

"I dream of a day when I can put on an all women card and we sellout Wembley arena, not as a gimmick, not because it's a women card, but because the fans appreciate quality and are unconcerned whether it's men or women fighting, it's just boxing, pure and simple. I'm passionate about women's boxing and I absolutely will not stop until we no longer see a female boxer or a male boxer, we just see a boxer. We are one, all gods creatures. Jeez"

He soon lost that passion when the Saudi dollar said "Eddie, NO WOMEN ON THESE CARDS"

He did that in covid.

Well there was a couple of mail fights, but the last 3 fights were all women.

https://boxrec.com/en/event/818305

Taylor main evented that one.

[RScarf1]

Womens boxing seems to be slowly losing the momentum it built up.

For the first time, for as long as i can remember, scrolling through boxing news and box rec and not 1 women fight is mentioned.

The saudi effect? Undercards are getting stacked with much better quality men fights, the poorer spectacle of the womens being pushed out?

Marshall v shields should have been much more of a watershed moment. In reality it showed that once they fought each other, there was nothing left in the pool for them.

I have also noticed that the momentum is slowing down. Women's boxing was gaining interest, especially compared to the men because the big fights that people wanted to see were happening more with the women than the men. Now it seems that the men have turned it around with undisputed world title fights such as Usyk vs. Fury and Crawford vs. Spence. One of the drawbacks of having undisputed champions is if they do not defend their titles, then there are less world title fights. This is happening in women's boxing. Super featherweight champion Alycia Baumgardner has not fought in nearly a year and in about a week will be considered inactive.

Amanda Serrano is likely not going to defend her featherweight titles this year because she has a fight against Katie Taylor in November for undisputed super lightweight, but she also has a fight scheduled this month at super lightweight against a borderline world-class boxer in what is basically a tune-up before she fights Taylor. Taylor also still has two lightweight titles even though she has not defended those titles in about two years. The problem is the sanctioning bodies are allowing this to happen because they want to keep the boxers that make the most money for them rather than giving title shots to other boxers.

Delfine Persoon is the No. 1 contender at super featherweight and is arguably better than Baumgardner, but Baumgardner can still claim that she is the undisputed champion and I believe that is what she cares mainly about. It gives her celebrity status and it opens the door for other opportunities outside of boxing. The sanctioning bodies could strip her of the titles because of inactivity, but I don't know if they are willing to do that. Undisputed middleweight champion Claressa Shields has been inactive for more than a year, but she is fighting a light heavyweight champion soon.

Serrano is not undisputed featherweight champion anymore because she vacated the WBC title due to the WBC not permitting 3-minute rounds. Skye Nicholson is the WBC champ now and she wants to fight Serrano, but Serrano does not seem to want to fight her now or maybe ever. Nicholson said that she always wants to fight the best, but she is scheduled to fight Dyana Vargas and there are plenty of contenders who are better than her such as Tiara Brown. Because the pay for women is typically much lower than the men, it is not unusual to see two female contenders fighting against each other in a local club show. Sometimes the promoter is uploading the fights to YouTube, so it is free to watch.

For women's boxing to gain popularity, there has to be world title shots and less of that is happening. The sanctioning bodies do not want to strip Claressa Shields of her middleweight titles even though she has not defended them in over a year and she is fighting in another weight class soon. It is ironic that boxers like Shields, Serrano, Taylor, and Baumgardner (all undisputed champions except for Serrano who voluntarily vacated the WBC belt) who made women's boxing popular are causing divisions to be dormant or nearly dormant due to inactivity or fighting in another weight class and the sanctioning bodies will let them do that while still being champion of a weight class that they are inactive in.

[Perseus]

Womens boxing seems to be slowly losing the momentum it built up.

For the first time, for as long as i can remember, scrolling through boxing news and box rec and not 1 women fight is mentioned.

The saudi effect? Undercards are getting stacked with much better quality men fights, the poorer spectacle of the womens being pushed out?

Marshall v shields should have been much more of a watershed moment. In reality it showed that once they fought each other, there was nothing left in the pool for them.

I have also noticed that the momentum is slowing down. Women's boxing was gaining interest, especially compared to the men because the big fights that people wanted to see were happening more with the women than the men. Now it seems that the men have turned it around with undisputed world title fights such as Usyk vs. Fury and Crawford vs. Spence. One of the drawbacks of having undisputed champions is if they do not defend their titles, then there are less world title fights. This is happening in women's boxing. Super featherweight champion Alycia Baumgardner has not fought in nearly a year and in about a week will be considered inactive.

Amanda Serrano is likely not going to defend her featherweight titles this year because she has a fight against Katie Taylor in November for undisputed super lightweight, but she also has a fight scheduled this month at super lightweight against a borderline world-class boxer in what is basically a tune-up before she fights Taylor. Taylor also still has two lightweight titles even though she has not defended those titles in about two years. The problem is the sanctioning bodies are allowing this to happen because they want to keep the boxers that make the most money for them rather than giving title shots to other boxers.

Delfine Persoon is the No. 1 contender at super featherweight and is arguably better than Baumgardner, but Baumgardner can still claim that she is the undisputed champion and I believe that is what she cares mainly about. It gives her celebrity status and it opens the door for other opportunities outside of boxing. The sanctioning bodies could strip her of the titles because of inactivity, but I don't know if they are willing to do that. Undisputed middleweight champion Claressa Shields has been inactive for more than a year, but she is fighting a light heavyweight champion soon.

Serrano is not undisputed featherweight champion anymore because she vacated the WBC title due to the WBC not permitting 3-minute rounds. Skye Nicholson is the WBC champ now and she wants to fight Serrano, but Serrano does not seem to want to fight her now or maybe ever. Nicholson said that she always wants to fight the best, but she is scheduled to fight Dyana Vargas and there are plenty of contenders who are better than her such as Tiara Brown. Because the pay for women is typically much lower than the men, it is not unusual to see two female contenders fighting against each other in a local club show. Sometimes the promoter is uploading the fights to YouTube, so it is free to watch.

For women's boxing to gain popularity, there has to be world title shots and less of that is happening. The sanctioning bodies do not want to strip Claressa Shields of her middleweight titles even though she has not defended them in over a year and she is fighting in another weight class soon. It is ironic that boxers like Shields, Serrano, Taylor, and Baumgardner (all undisputed champions except for Serrano who voluntarily vacated the WBC belt) who made women's boxing popular are causing divisions to be dormant or nearly dormant due to inactivity or fighting in another weight class and the sanctioning bodies will let them do that while still being champion of a weight class that they are inactive in.

[gilgamesh]

I'm all for seeing less Women's Boxing. I'm not one you'll ever hear calling for 3 minute rounds or any of that. I'd prefer to simply not see them ever.

I'm all for the Women having the opportunity to compete in Boxing if that's what they prefer, and I'm also all for myself not caring or watching it. Wake me up when there's some real Boxing going on.

[RScarf1]

Amanda Serrano vacated her IBF featherweight title. Her promoter stated that Serrano respects the IBF's rules and does not want to prevent others from fighting for the title. She could have vacated a few months ago, so why now? I guess she would have been stripped of the title if she did not vacate because she did not reschedule her cancelled fight against No. 1 contender and mandatory challenger Nina Meinke. It was cancelled because of Serrano's eye injury.

Claressa Shields said that after her fight for light heavyweight and heavyweight titles which is tomorrow, Shields will have 10 days to decide what division she will be in for a future fight. If she chooses not to defend her middleweight titles for her future fight, then the titles would become vacant. The WBC does not recognize the light heavyweight division for women's boxing, so heavier than 168 pounds (super middleweight) is considered to be heavyweight in women's boxing by the WBC.