Women boxers and women fans

[forcefraser]

It`s been a long time since I`ve been to a live event in the UK, so I`m not qualified to judge, however it doesn`t look to me that more than 5-10% of the crowd are women?

The recent inclusion and diversity push to show women`s bouts seems to have tapered off a little of late, however, they are still rearing their ugly heads on big shows.

I imagine if they relied on women to support them by turning up to the fights, they would be out of business pretty sharpish.

Is it the case that women in general don`t support sport in the same way as men? For example who turns up to watch womens golf, womens football, or womens cycling? Is it women or men?

If it`s the case that women actively turn out to support women`s events and make up the majority of the crowd, then by all means put on more all women boxing cards. However it looks like this is not the case and as the vast majority of boxing fans who go to events and watch it on the box are men, the event should be be catered to them.

From what I can gather there isnt many male fans who are overly happy about the influx of women`s fights

If women cant even be bothered to support their own, why should men?

[Coco]

Women fill up cards on the cheap, women don't come to watch them, men neither.

Women won't be put on Turkys cards as he is not looking to save money.

Women only shows would be a disaster unless KT was topping in Ireland

[coneye]

Think its just an occasion to get dressed up and parade around thinking and acting like there at a vegas show

[black panther]

Think its just an occasion to get dressed up and parade around thinking and acting like there at a vegas show

This

[Controversial]

Last show I went to a few months back there were hardly any women in the crowd. No women boxing either so not sure if that made the difference. The ones that were there seemed to be girlfriends or knew a fighter on the card.

[mickey1975]

Usually just family, friends and trophy birds. Katie Taylor and Terri Harper the only ones I've seen with groups of women. Bizarrely, Harper is a pretty good ticket seller.

[RScarf1]

The women's basketball league (WNBA) was losing money every year until Caitlin Clark. More men and women are watching the WNBA because of Clark. I think many people want to see great athletes regardless of gender, but some people prefer watching only male athletes in certain sports such as boxing. I have seen women attend boxing events, but they are often there with their boyfriend or husband. These events only have one women's fight. I find the women's fights more interesting than most of the men's fights when it is a club show, but I believe that is because these women's fights are between two contenders who are rated top 10 or 15 in their divisions. There is no way that a men's fight between two contenders would be affordable to a promoter when the event is not televised. Most of the men's fights on a club show are mismatches with neither of the boxers being world-class. The promoter is trying to get more wins and experience for his or her prospects and most of them are undefeated or only have one loss. In the upcoming Olympics, there will be about as many female athletes as male athletes which is the first time this will happen. It is a goal of the Olympics to have gender equity. I think it depends on the sport whether men will want to watch female athletes in the Olympics. For example, some men prefer to watch women's tennis instead of men's tennis.

[Evander]

I don't think we are selling womens boxing correctly, I don't think boxing ever has.
We need to take another look at this considering how much talent is out there.

[RScarf1]

I don't think we are selling womens boxing correctly, I don't think boxing ever has.
We need to take another look at this considering how much talent is out there.

If the sanctioning bodies would force the champions to defend their titles within a year or be stripped, then the other talent can be seen. I wouldn't be surprised if Katie Taylor and Amanda Serrano retired after their rematch. The talent is in their divisions and I think they could both lose if Taylor fought Chantelle Cameron in a third fight and if Serrano fought Nina Meinke which almost happened, but was cancelled at the last minute because of Serrano's eye injury. Alycia Baumgardner has not fought the top super featherweight contender Delfine Persoon. In a few days, Baumgardner will be considered inactive because her last fight was July 15, 2023.

[Evander]

I don't think we are selling womens boxing correctly, I don't think boxing ever has.
We need to take another look at this considering how much talent is out there.

If the sanctioning bodies would force the champions to defend their titles within a year or be stripped, then the other talent can be seen.

I agree but it comes back to the same old problem that happens in mens boxing, what happens if they get injured or the fight is postponed for some reason.
It always comes up and gives them an out.
I say with start with mandatory unifications in the divisions every say 2-3 years[I'm open to suggestions] and force them into it regardless.

[RScarf1]

I don't think we are selling womens boxing correctly, I don't think boxing ever has.
We need to take another look at this considering how much talent is out there.

If the sanctioning bodies would force the champions to defend their titles within a year or be stripped, then the other talent can be seen.

I agree but it comes back to the same old problem that happens in mens boxing, what happens if they get injured or the fight is postponed for some reason.
It always comes up and gives them an out.
I say with start with mandatory unifications in the divisions every say 2-3 years[I'm open to suggestions] and force them into it regardless.

Exceptions can be made if a fight is postponed due to injury or illness, but at least a fight is scheduled. After Serrano's eye was injured, her fight with No. 1 contender Nina Meinke was cancelled. It was not postponed. Meinke stated on Instagram that it was cancelled and it was not fair. I agree. It was not her fault that the fight had to be rescheduled, but then it was just cancelled with no explanation. Serrano gets to have her tune-up fight in another division before she fights Katie Taylor. Serrano gets to keep her featherweight titles and it likely will be more than a year before she will defend them again.

I assume you mean mandatory unifications with the big four sanctioning bodies because there are other ones, especially in women's boxing which have sanctioning bodies only for females. I don't think that is necessary, although it would be great for the sport. World champions keeping their titles for more than a year without defending them while fighting in other divisions does not usually happen in men's boxing. The reason is because the sanctioning bodies want to make money. Those male champions would be stripped to allow for other boxers to fight for the titles.

In women's boxing, the elite few are given special treatment because they potentially can make more money for the sanctioning bodies than if they were stripped and having two other boxers fight for the vacant title or titles. There may be another reason too. Obviously, Serrano being announced as the current featherweight champion versus Taylor the undisputed super lightweight champion makes it feel more like a superfight rather than if Serrano was the former featherweight champion. Meinke is her mandatory challenger, so she should get her title shot this year and the only way that will happen is if Serrano is forced to vacate the titles or at least one of the titles. If it was men's boxing, this would be happening.

[Evander]

If the sanctioning bodies would force the champions to defend their titles within a year or be stripped, then the other talent can be seen.

I agree but it comes back to the same old problem that happens in mens boxing, what happens if they get injured or the fight is postponed for some reason.
It always comes up and gives them an out.
I say with start with mandatory unifications in the divisions every say 2-3 years[I'm open to suggestions] and force them into it regardless.

Exceptions can be made if a fight is postponed due to injury or illness, but at least a fight is scheduled. After Serrano's eye was injured, her fight with No. 1 contender Nina Meinke was cancelled. It was not postponed. Meinke stated on Instagram that it was cancelled and it was not fair. I agree. It was not her fault that the fight had to be rescheduled, but then it was just cancelled with no explanation. Serrano gets to have her tune-up fight in another division before she fights Katie Taylor. Serrano gets to keep her featherweight titles and it likely will be more than a year before she will defend them again.

I assume you mean mandatory unifications with the big four sanctioning bodies because there are other ones, especially in women's boxing which have sanctioning bodies only for females. I don't think that is necessary, although it would be great for the sport. World champions keeping their titles for more than a year without defending them while fighting in other divisions does not usually happen in men's boxing. The reason is because the sanctioning bodies want to make money. Those male champions would be stripped to allow for other boxers to fight for the titles.

In women's boxing, the elite few are given special treatment because they potentially can make more money for the sanctioning bodies than if they were stripped and having two other boxers fight for the vacant title or titles. There may be another reason too. Obviously, Serrano being announced as the current featherweight champion versus Taylor the undisputed super lightweight champion makes it feel more like a superfight rather than if Serrano was the former featherweight champion. Meinke is her mandatory challenger, so she should get her title shot this year and the only way that will happen is if Serrano is forced to vacate the titles or at least one of the titles. If it was men's boxing, this would be happening.

Yeah I hear you, good points.
I got to think this one over for a bit.

[Glass Joe]

https://x.com/EbanieBridges/status/1816006702962991358

[RScarf1]

https://x.com/EbanieBridges/status/1816006702962991358

It sounds like Ebanie Bridges and Miyo Yoshida want to have a rematch, but people don't want to see that. That's why the fight is not being made. Yoshida has the IBF bantamweight title. I think she should try to unify against one of the other world champions: Dina Thorslund (WBC, WBO), Cherneka Johnson (WBA), or Amanda Galle (IBO).

There is an article about Lou DiBella wanting to organize a bantamweight tournament with 8 female boxers which would include the four world champions and four other boxers. It is on Boxing Scene.com, but I am unable to provide a link because it changes to BS.com.