Round-by-Round: Terence Crawford vs. Israil Madrimov | PPV - August 3, 2024
Re: Round-by-Round: Terence Crawford vs. Israil Madrimov | PPV - August 3, 2024
It’s highly unlikely but I’d love to see tszyu v Crawford at 154.
Madrimov would give many of the top guys at 154 a real tough time. He’s gained a new supporter in me.
Madrimov would give many of the top guys at 154 a real tough time. He’s gained a new supporter in me.
Re: Round-by-Round: Terence Crawford vs. Israil Madrimov | PPV - August 3, 2024
They did Jarell Miller dirty, to save the so-called first mexican heavyweight world champion ever...
About the rest of the card, so happy for Rayo, and as for Colbert, this wasn't an upset. Andy Cruz looked like a seasoned pro in his 4th bout, while Morrell, despite keeping the flow, has not kept his power at 175 libs (plus Hot Rod was always steady on his feet).
I thought Crawford edged it by a feather. Next week Vergil is fighting also for a WBA title...
About the rest of the card, so happy for Rayo, and as for Colbert, this wasn't an upset. Andy Cruz looked like a seasoned pro in his 4th bout, while Morrell, despite keeping the flow, has not kept his power at 175 libs (plus Hot Rod was always steady on his feet).
I thought Crawford edged it by a feather. Next week Vergil is fighting also for a WBA title...
Re: Round-by-Round: Terence Crawford vs. Israil Madrimov | PPV - August 3, 2024
It wasn’t as close as Eddie whined it was. TCraw won 8 of the 12 mini fights. He was in control all night and finished strong.
Bud is getting long in the tooth though, and Madrimov did himself proud. Madrimov v VOrtiz would be a tear up.
Bud is getting long in the tooth though, and Madrimov did himself proud. Madrimov v VOrtiz would be a tear up.
Re: Round-by-Round: Terence Crawford vs. Israil Madrimov | PPV - August 3, 2024
I thought Crawford looked his age last night and lost alot of his pop at 154. I was one that thought Crawford could seriously test Alvarez, after last night's performance Alvarez would be too much for him. I don't think the long layoff did Crawford any favors either, he looked a bit flat to me.
Not to take away from Madrimov, he fought a good fight and really seemed to trouble Crawford with his head and foot movement. Crawford struggled to time him and got caught with alot of straight right hands through the guard and left hooks around the guard.
It was anything but a masterclass by Crawford. Madrimov gave him everything he could handle and felt Crawford narrowly pulled it off.
Not to take away from Madrimov, he fought a good fight and really seemed to trouble Crawford with his head and foot movement. Crawford struggled to time him and got caught with alot of straight right hands through the guard and left hooks around the guard.
It was anything but a masterclass by Crawford. Madrimov gave him everything he could handle and felt Crawford narrowly pulled it off.
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Re: Round-by-Round: Terence Crawford vs. Israil Madrimov | PPV - August 3, 2024
gregregegg wrote: ↑04 Aug 2024, 01:43 Close fight. Probably craw.
Both left it a bit close and will hate themselves if they lose.
Don’t think craw will fight canelo now… needed a huge win at 154 to show him capible to go to 168.
If the money is right, they will fight, but it should not be at 168.
Besides, who else have they got?
Canelo clearly doesn't want Benavidez, nor the winner of Beterbiev/Bivol, and why would he when the showdown with Crawford might net him more?
I also suspect Crawford, not being in a great negotiating position, deliberately didn't show us everything he had last night in order to catch a huge payday against Canelo.
Many believed that Usyk did something similar in his fight against Chisora.
Boxing is always a business before it's a sport and most fighters understand this.
Re: Round-by-Round: Terence Crawford vs. Israil Madrimov | PPV - August 3, 2024
Crawford has now had one fight north of 147. He ordinarily stays in a weight class for several years before moving up. He doesn't have time to work his way up to super middleweight naturally and still be a world class fighter.
I also don't think he'll still be a world class fighter if he gets goaded into immediately packing on 15 more pounds to go fight Canelo now. People have gotten too unrealistic about guys just bouncing around weight classes whenever they want to.
He should at least be responding to all this Canelo talk by asking what weight Canelo will slim down to to meet him in the middle. If one of them has to change his body to make the fight happen, just make them both do it.
I also don't think he'll still be a world class fighter if he gets goaded into immediately packing on 15 more pounds to go fight Canelo now. People have gotten too unrealistic about guys just bouncing around weight classes whenever they want to.
He should at least be responding to all this Canelo talk by asking what weight Canelo will slim down to to meet him in the middle. If one of them has to change his body to make the fight happen, just make them both do it.
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Re: Round-by-Round: Terence Crawford vs. Israil Madrimov | PPV - August 3, 2024
No way does Canelo go lower than 165, for a catchweight agreement.squiggy wrote: ↑04 Aug 2024, 14:58 Crawford has now had one fight north of 147. He ordinarily stays in a weight class for several years before moving up. He doesn't have time to work his way up to super middleweight naturally and still be a world class fighter.
I also don't think he'll still be a world class fighter if he gets goaded into immediately packing on 15 more pounds to go fight Canelo now. People have gotten too unrealistic about guys just bouncing around weight classes whenever they want to.
He should at least be responding to all this Canelo talk by asking what weight Canelo will slim down to to meet him in the middle. If one of them has to change his body to make the fight happen, just make them both do it.
Maybe also workout a rehydration clause..? As in, weigh no more than 175 before walking into the ring..?
This would probably make things evened out enough.
Even as far as Canelo's behalf, I don't think that he'd do better versus Crawford, if he's in the ring weighing more than 175.
The extra weight(Muscle Bulk/Fat/Excess Water) would just work against him versus Crawford.
They're both 5'8 in height.
Craw would outreach Canelo, 74" to 70".
Canelo is bigger boned though. Bigger Wrists. Thicker Neck.
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Re: Round-by-Round: Terence Crawford vs. Israil Madrimov | PPV - August 3, 2024
Bullshit, one of the biggest robberies since Loma-Haney. I know it happens all the time in boxing but Madrimov really deserved to win this fight. Like 117-111 or something.
Other notes:
-Andy Cruz is the fornicating man
-Morrell ain't nowhere near facing anyone like Canelo or Benavidez
-easy to say in hindsight but I always thought Anderson was overrated. AND Bakole was underrated. I liked that fight.
-Miller and Ruiz are both irrelevant
-Pitbull Cruz is one scary dude, wouldn't want to fight him. Not his best performance, I had it a draw
Other notes:
-Andy Cruz is the fornicating man
-Morrell ain't nowhere near facing anyone like Canelo or Benavidez
-easy to say in hindsight but I always thought Anderson was overrated. AND Bakole was underrated. I liked that fight.
-Miller and Ruiz are both irrelevant
-Pitbull Cruz is one scary dude, wouldn't want to fight him. Not his best performance, I had it a draw
Re: Round-by-Round: Terence Crawford vs. Israil Madrimov | PPV - August 3, 2024
JackSprocket wrote: ↑05 Aug 2024, 08:43 Bullshit, one of the biggest robberies since Loma-Haney. I know it happens all the time in boxing but Madrimov really deserved to win this fight. Like 117-111 or something.
Other notes:
-Andy Cruz is the fornicating man
-Morrell ain't nowhere near facing anyone like Canelo or Benavidez
-easy to say in hindsight but I always thought Anderson was overrated. AND Bakole was underrated. I liked that fight.
-Miller and Ruiz are both irrelevant
-Pitbull Cruz is one scary dude, wouldn't want to fight him. Not his best performance, I had it a draw
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Re: Round-by-Round: Terence Crawford vs. Israil Madrimov | PPV - August 3, 2024
The result was fuckin' ridiculous. God I hate this sport and the America first attitude thats included in it
Re: Round-by-Round: Terence Crawford vs. Israil Madrimov | PPV - August 3, 2024
Madrimov was reduced to being a one armed paper hanger on the night.JackSprocket wrote: ↑05 Aug 2024, 10:26 The result was fuckin' ridiculous. God I hate this sport and the America first attitude thats included in it
Lomassiah lost as he always has; mistaking posing for boxing in too many rounds.
Resume your river of tears.
Re: Round-by-Round: Terence Crawford vs. Israil Madrimov | PPV - August 3, 2024
Close, but clear win for Crawford. Anything from 115-113 to 117-111 seems fair to me. He was in comfort zone all night, Madrimov did good, but you are not going to win fight like that. Crawford should forget chasing money in Canelo fight and just be active. He has plenty of options with Jaron Ennis being top fight for hm and his legacy 
Re: Round-by-Round: Terence Crawford vs. Israil Madrimov | PPV - August 3, 2024
Canelo v Crawford
Looking likely either way
Looking likely either way
Re: Round-by-Round: Terence Crawford vs. Israil Madrimov | PPV - August 3, 2024
Lately, I try to score fights this way.. (if there is a knockdown, foul, or 10-8 round.. need to factor that in)
- clear round for guy A
- clear round for guy B
- close enough where I could see a judge go either way
I saw 5 rounds for Crawford, 3 for Madrimov, and 4 "close enough"... Usually only end up with 2 or so in the "close enough" bucket. So this was a tough fight to score IMO.
Give all the close rounds to Crawford, you get 117-111 Crawford... vice versa, 115-113 Madrimov. That's a big spread and unless you're biased, you probably give each guy at least 1 of the 4.
So that's a spread of 116-112 Crawford to 114-114.
- clear round for guy A
- clear round for guy B
- close enough where I could see a judge go either way
I saw 5 rounds for Crawford, 3 for Madrimov, and 4 "close enough"... Usually only end up with 2 or so in the "close enough" bucket. So this was a tough fight to score IMO.
Give all the close rounds to Crawford, you get 117-111 Crawford... vice versa, 115-113 Madrimov. That's a big spread and unless you're biased, you probably give each guy at least 1 of the 4.
So that's a spread of 116-112 Crawford to 114-114.
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Re: Round-by-Round: Terence Crawford vs. Israil Madrimov | PPV - August 3, 2024
Very high level fight. Both guys won in my book. Rewatching fight Crawford is an all time great and beat a young strong guy with intelligence. Crawford and Loma (and Usyk) are “brothers” in style in many ways. Crawford I had 115-113. Mad is on the map and knows he needs to be busier. 154 is heating up. Really Tszyu should still be champ. Amazing they let that fight go on with blood pouring down his face and stop others immediately for the NC or Draw. Craw beats everyone who comes forward. Tim is rugged and if healed only one who has a shot. Mad will be back and win another belt. I also think Canelo vs Crawford would be an intense high level fight. Canelo is not a stalker. He is a high IQ boxer with power. Crawford would be a chess match. Sure Canelo is the favorite but folks saying it shouldn’t happen cause of the Madrimov fight don’t really understand what they are watching:
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Re: Round-by-Round: Terence Crawford vs. Israil Madrimov | PPV - August 3, 2024
Good Post.Boxingguru75 wrote: ↑07 Aug 2024, 11:58 Very high level fight. Both guys won in my book. Rewatching fight Crawford is an all time great and beat a young strong guy with intelligence. Crawford and Loma (and Usyk) are “brothers” in style in many ways. Crawford I had 115-113. Mad is on the map and knows he needs to be busier. 154 is heating up. Really Tszyu should still be champ. Amazing they let that fight go on with blood pouring down his face and stop others immediately for the NC or Draw. Craw beats everyone who comes forward. Tim is rugged and if healed only one who has a shot. Mad will be back and win another belt. I also think Canelo vs Crawford would be an intense high level fight. Canelo is not a stalker. He is a high IQ boxer with power. Crawford would be a chess match. Sure Canelo is the favorite but folks saying it shouldn’t happen cause of the Madrimov fight don’t really understand what they are watching:
I still think that Canelo vs Crawford is an extremely interesting showdown of boxing styles.
It's still a very 50-50 type of bout, At least, in my strong opinion it is.
I can understand people thinking Canelo is too Big and Strong and Powerful.
To me though, i really think that Crawford would be extra prepared and extra amped up for Canelo.
Canelo is slower than Madrimov. Thus, Easier to find and easier to hit.
He does hit harder than Madrimov though, so Crawford will need to be mindful of that specific factor of difference.
Definitely Will Certainly be an epic bout for all boxing fans, whether they're hardcore level, or just a casual.