WITTER WBC CHAMP - YAAAAAAAAAAAAAY

Phenomenal-Nutrition · Post by **Phenomenal-Nutrition** » 15 Sep 2006, 18:24

WELL DONE JUNIOR, COULD'VE BEEN 120-107, FIRST TIME HES FOUGHT 12 ROUNDS BRING ON HATTON. Maybe as convicing as FMJ? Cotto and FMJ got hurt Witter did not

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 15 Sep 2006, 18:28

Mayweather absolutely battered the shit out of Corley, he stood right in front of him most of the fight and knocked him to the canvas four times.

Witter won, but it wasn't convincing in the same way.

Well done Junior nontheless, but it wasn't much of a spectacle.

Hopefully as champ he can turn in some more exciting performances.

spud66 · Post by **spud66** » 15 Sep 2006, 18:29

I thought it was quite a boring fight but intresting at the same time
Witter thought a great tactical fight to gain the world title that he deserves

Cannibal · Post by **Cannibal** » 15 Sep 2006, 18:31

Why didn't Corley whip some hooks around that dumb cobra stance?

The statue stand off was also hilarious.

Autobarn · Post by **Autobarn** » 15 Sep 2006, 18:32

Witter did what he had to. If he'd got reckless he would've given Corley opportunities. Witter definitely wasn't entertaining, but he showed those pockets of high class that win fights clearly for you.

Well done to Witter. Corley was well behind and it was up to Corley to show the urgency -if he was going to get some rounds. If Corley tried something extra, Witter would've caught him and wobbled him some more.

He's got his title. That's the main thing. It was always going to be this kind of fight but Witter won clearly on those terms.

stujones · Post by **stujones** » 15 Sep 2006, 18:33

Well done Witter, but that was a horrible watch.

Disagree with Piper in saying the Corley isn't shot. I think Corley has been fading for a while. I don't think he is the same person who won the WBO title a few years back.

Witter was in control throughout but did himself no favours with the style. Contary to belief, Corley isn't a puncher (how was Judah still standing if he was?) so what was Witter ponsing around for.

Its going to cost him stateside..... After so much positives with the Ndou fight (from a fans point of view). It certainly raises questions on stamina again.... can he not fight 12 rounds a half decent pace?

It WON'T happen, but Ricky is going to stop him quite convincingly.

Phenomenal-Nutrition · Post by **Phenomenal-Nutrition** » 15 Sep 2006, 18:34

jamesmcdonnell wrote:Mayweather absolutely battered the shit out of Corley, he stood right in front of him most of the fight and knocked him to the canvas four times.

Witter won, but it wasn't convincing in the same way.

Well done Junior nontheless, but it wasn't much of a spectacle.

Hopefully as champ he can turn in some more exciting performances.

Except he knocked him down 2 times and not 4 James

It was a great tactical performance, he shutout Corley, he wasnt hurt by corley (who hurt Mayweather and Cotto), and I had him winning every round, plus he may have kd'ed Corley

Corleys a tough foe, theres a reason Hatton didn't fight him

G-man · Post by **G-man** » 15 Sep 2006, 18:36

'That version' of Corley shouldn't have lasted 4 rounds.

emma · Post by **emma** » 15 Sep 2006, 18:38

Oh stop with the negitives and give Witter the praise he deserves.

WELL DONE WITTER.

Autobarn · Post by **Autobarn** » 15 Sep 2006, 18:38

We could hardly expect Witter to take the lead. Then Corley would've been given countering opportunities. It was classy - if minimalist - work by Witter, who really made Corley concede the defeat.

I'm glad Junior's still got the reflexes.

One of those fights that are frustrating to see live, but when you sit through 'em again you can appreciate the class.

Amaroo · Post by **Amaroo** » 15 Sep 2006, 18:41

Watched the fight, he will only ever get to the USA as a holiday maker, never as a fighter after tonights inept performance.

Why do all Ingle trained fighters seem to take dancing/acting lessons, as all at times ponce around the ring like tonight. What was the arm supposed to be ? that was sticking up in the air.

The fisrt thing Witter needs to do if he wants to move on is move from Ingle and get someone who will train him properly.

Watching the Ingle's tonight was like watching the Marx Brothers.

Witter has to fight the real boxers in his weight but it would be doubtful if any interest will be shown after tonight.

Cannibal · Post by **Cannibal** » 15 Sep 2006, 18:46

Amaroo wrote:Witter has to fight the real boxers in his weight but it would be doubtful if any interest will be shown after tonight.

You don't consider someone who has 6 world title fights under his belt a real boxer? Not to mention the P4P names that Corley has shared a ring with.

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 15 Sep 2006, 18:47

Phenomenal-Nutrition wrote:
jamesmcdonnell wrote:Mayweather absolutely battered the shit out of Corley, he stood right in front of him most of the fight and knocked him to the canvas four times.

Witter won, but it wasn't convincing in the same way.

Well done Junior nontheless, but it wasn't much of a spectacle.

Hopefully as champ he can turn in some more exciting performances.
Except he knocked him down 2 times and not 4 James

It was a great tactical performance, he shutout Corley, he wasnt hurt by corley (who hurt Mayweather and Cotto), and I had him winning every round, plus he may have kd'ed Corley

Corleys a tough foe, theres a reason Hatton didn't fight him

Corley hit the canvas four times, but the ref only awarded two as knockdowns.

I'm very pleased for Witter, but I don't think you can compare Mayweather's performance with his.

The reason mayweather took some punches, was he chose to make a performance of it, and forced Corley into a stand up fight, contrary to expectations.

Fact is, Witter is going to struggle to get the big fights with a title winning performance like that. He needs to have an impressive defence against a decent challenger.

I hope he won't wither on the vine as Champ, I predicted he would beat Corley, but wish he'd done it in a more spectacular fashion.

Autobarn · Post by **Autobarn** » 15 Sep 2006, 18:51

Witter doesn't have to impress America. Whoever is his top contender will have to come over & fight him. & I'll say this, he is going to be very hard to beat. As he showed tonight, he can't be outwaited, can't be out countered; and against someone less cautious he's going to be far too difficult to hit & far too fast with his counters.

So what if he can't entice Hatton? There's loads of quality fighters at 140.

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 15 Sep 2006, 19:04

Yes, whoever is top contender will have to come over ONCE A YEAR.

Witter is 32, do you think he wants to spend the end of his career fighting mandatories and the dregs of the rankings.

You need to be able to offer a payday in order to entice people over, and the belt alone doesn't make you a draw.

Let's not become intoxicated into thinking Witter in invincible because he beat an incredibly negative Corley.

Do you think the likes of Cotto or Hatton are just going to stand and watch whilst Witter does that posing, not on your bloody life.

Witter will have to fight at a pace he is entirely unused to to beat either of those men, especially Hatton.

As I said before, I predicted Witter would win with a fair degree of confidence, I didn't and don't think Corley is in his class. Anyone who has watched his fights with Mayweather and Cotto will know that his supposed brilliance was very much talked up. Corley is a fringe world class operator who won a WBO title and had brief flashes against Mayweather and Cotto and stunk the joint out against Judah.

This is the first step for Witter, if he wants to make a real name for himself, he needs to get one of the other champions and make a fight. No matter how impressive anyone thinks this performance was tonight, and in some respects it was, it was not a spectacle, and it won't have done anything to make a fight with Cotto, Hatton or even M'baye.

Well done Junior, now let's see him blow away one of his challengers in pretty short order to make a case for himself.

KO Artist · Post by **KO Artist** » 15 Sep 2006, 19:06

Phenomenal-Nutrition wrote:WELL DONE JUNIOR, COULD'VE BEEN 120-107, FIRST TIME HES FOUGHT 12 ROUNDS BRING ON HATTON. Maybe as convicing as FMJ? Cotto and FMJ got hurt Witter did not

Please. Witter and Corley were a joke. Like a couple of fencers.

They are both past it. Maybe Witter never had it.

Hatton would walk through Witter.

Hatton KO 6 Witter.

Witter was shocking, so was Corley

Tszyu could come back and Knock Witter out.

Thank f uck I didnt buy a ticket.

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 15 Sep 2006, 19:09

Yep, I've always said Hatton would go through Witter like a boot through soft shite.

Witter cannot fight on the inside, and he doesn't like being backed up. Hatton is not as agile, but he closes the gap very quickly.

Witter would go for one of those big lunging shots, miss and then spend the next 10 seconds backpedalling as Hatton battered his ribs.

Unless Witter got a massive shot in early and cut Hatton or hurt him and somehow managed to finish him off, which seems unlikely. I think he would get a hiding.

I'm pleased for Junior getting that belt, I genuinely am, but he didn't look good in there. I need to see him turn in a more convincing performance against someone of a decent level before I'm convinced he can achieve anything more than defending his belt a few times.

Max Molyneux · Post by **Max Molyneux** » 15 Sep 2006, 19:13

Good decent technical fight.

Thought Witter clearly won 116 - 112.

James, Mayweather's a completely different fighter and class to Witter though.

Witter was out of the ring for 11 months too, so he fought the right fight.

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 15 Sep 2006, 19:18

That's precisely my point, comparing Witter to Mayweather is like comparing white lightning to calvados. Both are made with apples, both get you pissed, but that's where the similarity ends.

Mayweather was told to put on a performance for the fight, and fought a totally different fight to usual. He came out looking for Corley and jumped all over him, forcing Corley to stand and trade and gave him a right kicking.

I wouldn't call it a good technical fight either, technically it was lousy. Lots of lunging, holding, loading up and generally very sloppy with little or no jabbing or combination punching, and very poor defence from both men.

Their styles conspired to make for a very very poor fight.

Autobarn · Post by **Autobarn** » 15 Sep 2006, 19:19

jamesmcdonnell wrote:Yes, whoever is top contender will have to come over ONCE A YEAR.

Witter is 32, do you think he wants to spend the end of his career fighting mandatories and the dregs of the rankings.

You need to be able to offer a payday in order to entice people over, and the belt alone doesn't make you a draw.

Let's not become intoxicated into thinking Witter in invincible because he beat an incredibly negative Corley.

Do you think the likes of Cotto or Hatton are just going to stand and watch whilst Witter does that posing, not on your bloody life.

Witter will have to fight at a pace he is entirely unused to to beat either of those men, especially Hatton.

As I said before, I predicted Witter would win with a fair degree of confidence, I didn't and don't think Corley is in his class. Anyone who has watched his fights with Mayweather and Cotto will know that his supposed brilliance was very much talked up. Corley is a fringe world class operator who won a WBO title and had brief flashes against Mayweather and Cotto and stunk the joint out against Judah.

This is the first step for Witter, if he wants to make a real name for himself, he needs to get one of the other champions and make a fight. No matter how impressive anyone thinks this performance was tonight, and in some respects it was, it was not a spectacle, and it won't have done anything to make a fight with Cotto, Hatton or even M'baye.

Well done Junior, now let's see him blow away one of his challengers in pretty short order to make a case for himself.

Well, he has his title & that was his goal. At least he will find it easier to get fights now. Big names won't snap him up, but he is no longer totally frozen out & will be able to get steady work and amass a decent body of work.

Like it or nor, winning is more important than spectacle. Jermain Taylor knows a bit about that. & at the very least JW can have some Johnny Nelson style success by taking on mandatories - once a year if necessary - so long as he stays focused. At best, & I hope this happens, he blows out a few aggressive types and lands a unification.

Witter is a patient bloke with little mileage. Things will fall into place. If Hatton loses to Urango, or if Urango loses to Hatton, one of those may have is tail between his legs. Both those guys are very aggressive. Witter would have to do more, but aggression affords him greater punching opportunites and makes for better showings & more exciting fights.

I hate it that anytime anyone doesn't deliver Rocky 7, everyone has to get all upset.

I'm starting to warm to Witter. The reflexes are still there & he's a canny operator. He wont take his title for granted, that's certain, & I'm curious to see how he grows into his belt.

A fighter like Cotto is given all the chances in the world. Yet he doesn't end up taking on any superfights, does he?

Max Molyneux · Post by **Max Molyneux** » 15 Sep 2006, 19:20

As for Hatton though, he was fighting at a bigger weight but he shouldn't lack his defence like he did with Callazo though. Callazo's not a puncher and admits that yet he hurt Hatton.

Autobarn · Post by **Autobarn** » 15 Sep 2006, 19:20

Terence wrote:Dull fight. Why the fook Corley stood there transfixed whilst Witter held that funny guard is a mystery, Corley should have whipped in a body shot to the side that had the arm up, what would Witter have done? Poked him? He did his best, mostly his only, work to the body then stood there when it was time to find a way past Witter. Witter made him look like a muppet.

Still, WBC champ, time to make some money if you can get a decent challenger.

Corley:

"I was robbed. Witter needs to keep fighting in the Ukraine...UK to get a decision"

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 15 Sep 2006, 19:22

Who said I am upset, and I've got NOTHING against Witter, I'm very pleased for him. I actually think he's a pretty talented fighter, but that he rarely puts it all together.

The first four rounds against Ndou, he looked great, he looks best when he boxes off the front foot and actually uses the jab with some force.

I think in fairness, the occasion for Witter was so momentous that he won at all costs. His corner were extremely nervous between rounds, and were terrified about Witter getting engaged with Corley, but I think he could actually have stopped Corley if he'd stepped in with his shots instead of winging away off the back foot with his chin in the air.

I'd like to see Witter get some big fights now and some big paydays, but I don't think he's going to do that unless he puts in some big performances.

Max Molyneux · Post by **Max Molyneux** » 15 Sep 2006, 19:23

Did Corley actually say that Vicious?

I was watching in the pub and had no sound watching it.

stujones · Post by **stujones** » 15 Sep 2006, 19:24

viciousmaussa wrote:
Terence wrote:Dull fight. Why the fook Corley stood there transfixed whilst Witter held that funny guard is a mystery, Corley should have whipped in a body shot to the side that had the arm up, what would Witter have done? Poked him? He did his best, mostly his only, work to the body then stood there when it was time to find a way past Witter. Witter made him look like a muppet.

Still, WBC champ, time to make some money if you can get a decent challenger.
Corley:

"I was robbed. Witter needs to keep fighting in the Ukraine...UK to get a decision"

Not sure what was worse Corley post fight claiming he won and did his job, or Dave Clark saying that he was dignified in defeat - hold on he didn't accept the decision, thought Witter would never win in the states - yep dignified.

Nice to see after two hours of Boxing, Clark still had to read the script to remember the weight Witter was fighting in.

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