Anthony Joshua vs. Daniel Dubois | PPV - September 21, 2024

Who wins?

Poll ended at 21 Sep 2024, 12:12

Joshua - Decision
3
6%
Joshua - T/KO
36
71%
DRAW
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2%
Dubois - T/KO
11
22%
Dubois - Decision
0
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Total votes: 51

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Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Daniel Dubois | PPV - September 21, 2024

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The Gratest wrote: 21 Sep 2024, 17:49
funso banjo baby wrote: 21 Sep 2024, 17:31
funso banjo baby wrote: 21 Sep 2024, 06:38 Here we go then......

This is as 50\50 on paper as you can get.

I can't see a distance fight unless AJ goes into his shell (Parker, Usyk I & 2, Ruiz 2) but that shouldn't happen against Dubois who is less mobile and will want to come forward.

This is a clash of big power punchers.

AJ has the edge in class but , for me, the big factor is the recent activity.

Dubois form is dynamite and he`s been in with serious opponents whereas AJ has quite literally fought stiffs for quick and pointless ko`s.

AJ was totally unnerved by the footwork, hand speed and general movement of Ruiz and Usyk. This won't be a factor against Dubois but also AJ is going to have to trade early and expend a lot of energy.

Both have small issues around mental attitude and stamina in tough fights.

I'm going against the run of opinion and saying Dubois wins by KO in the 5th but he's got to let his hands go as quickly as possible.





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Told ya
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Yes, you did. DDD certainly let his hands go, right from the bell.

I'm shocked.

Think I would have preferred if it had been stopped earlier.

After Joshua caught him and backed him up in the 5th it looked like he was about to pull off a brilliant comeback.

The finish could not have been much closer.

Can't really blame AJ for "getting greedy" as Hearn said.

He must have been fighting on reserves.

As for AJ not keeping up his left, Ben Davison, what do you say?

Great fight that had my heart beating.
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Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Daniel Dubois | PPV - September 21, 2024

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Dubois was knocked down three times in round one by light-punching cruiserweight Lerena.

Then, he took the hardest flush shots from Hrgovic and Joshua, both known to be strong punchers, and they didn't bother him.

Amazing improvement.
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Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Daniel Dubois | PPV - September 21, 2024

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Perkin Warbeck wrote: 21 Sep 2024, 18:46 Dubois was knocked down three times in round one by light-punching cruiserweight Lerena.

Then, he took the hardest flush shots from Hrgovic and Joshua, both known to be strong punchers, and they didn't bother him.

Amazing improvement.
Bit like how AJ hit the canvas 4 times vs Ruiz who is not a banger at all. that first scrambler got him and he never recovered.
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Perkin Warbeck wrote: 21 Sep 2024, 18:46 Dubois was knocked down three times in round one by light-punching cruiserweight Lerena.

Then, he took the hardest flush shots from Hrgovic and Joshua, both known to be strong punchers, and they didn't bother him.

Amazing improvement.
He was injured in the Lerena fight, that's why he kept going down.
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Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Daniel Dubois | PPV - September 21, 2024

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So where does AJ go from here?
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Back to gym.

He ain’t retiring yet.

Not while at Riyadh season is a thing. None of these heavyweights are.

There’s still fights he probably wants and the fans want to see. Unfortunately, he has a rematch clause.

What challenger loses this badly and has a rematch?
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How he looked in this fight, kinda makes Joshua-Wilder appealing again.
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Cyclops wrote: 22 Sep 2024, 00:48 So where does AJ go from here?
No doubt there'll be a rematch.

Joshua will grow his hair some more, talk endlessly about invoking the spirit of the 70s, then run like Noah Lyles, but the likely difference is, he won't be facing a guy who has spent 6 months partying and weighing more than a Brachiosaurus, he'll be facing a young and hungry lion who will be intent on punching holes in him.
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Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Daniel Dubois | PPV - September 21, 2024

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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 22 Sep 2024, 00:50 Back to gym.

He ain’t retiring yet.

Not while at Riyadh season is a thing. None of these heavyweights are.

There’s still fights he probably wants and the fans want to see. Unfortunately, he has a rematch clause.

What challenger loses this badly and has a rematch?
Spot on.

These rematch clauses are a pain in the arse.

Joshua was handed his backside by Dubois, he doesn't deserve an immediate rematch, but he'll get one because he's a cash cow.
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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 22 Sep 2024, 00:50 Back to gym.

He ain’t retiring yet.

Not while at Riyadh season is a thing. None of these heavyweights are.

There’s still fights he probably wants and the fans want to see. Unfortunately, he has a rematch clause.

What challenger loses this badly and has a rematch?
That was about as one sided as you could have expected. The thing is, Dubois had all the momentum. He'd had legit wins against Miller and Hrgovic prior to this, while Joshua had been flattered with dominant performances against Wallin and Ngannou.

Dubois has fought so many good fighters. Lost a few, won a few. He was ready for this.

Who could AJ fight to rebuild? The ghost of Joe Joyce? Maybe Wilder finally makes sense?
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Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Daniel Dubois | PPV - September 21, 2024

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Syntax Error wrote: 22 Sep 2024, 00:56
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 22 Sep 2024, 00:50 Back to gym.

He ain’t retiring yet.

Not while at Riyadh season is a thing. None of these heavyweights are.

There’s still fights he probably wants and the fans want to see. Unfortunately, he has a rematch clause.

What challenger loses this badly and has a rematch?
Spot on.

These rematch clauses are a pain in the arse.

Joshua was handed his backside by Dubois, he doesn't deserve an immediate rematch, but he'll get one because he's a cash cow.
It's the way of things these days. But a rematch is pointless for me.
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Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Daniel Dubois | PPV - September 21, 2024

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With DDD being under Frank also, the Itauma title shot should be easier to make.
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Verdi wrote: 22 Sep 2024, 01:21 With DDD being under Frank also, the Itauma title shot should be easier to make.
Nah. I rate Itauma, but he isn't ready.
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Eddie Hearn must hate Fra nk Warren now.

Queensbury are eating Matchroom for breakfast, lunch and dinner!
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Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Daniel Dubois | PPV - September 21, 2024

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I really dont get how AJ one time can look like a stoic killer super confident and this time he looked nervous and clumsy from the first moment. Props to him for getting up and I beleive he could have taken over because Dubios thrown a lot and started to get a bit less dominent but leading with an uppercut with zero setup is just a rookie mistake. Careless. I was thinking immedaetely When Razor Ruddock did the same thing against Tommy Morrison.
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Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Daniel Dubois | PPV - September 21, 2024

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Fun fight :box: :box: :box: Now i am very impressed how Usyk picked Dubois apart.
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Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Daniel Dubois | PPV - September 21, 2024

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Winter king wrote: 22 Sep 2024, 02:35 I really dont get how AJ one time can look like a stoic killer super confident and this time he looked nervous and clumsy from the first moment. Props to him for getting up and I beleive he could have taken over because Dubios thrown a lot and started to get a bit less dominent but leading with an uppercut with zero setup is just a rookie mistake. Careless. I was thinking immedaetely When Razor Ruddock did the same thing against Tommy Morrison.
1 word - pressure. Getting constantly tagged with the jab and then big hooks or overhand rights threw him off balance. AJ has never boxed 3 minutes a round either, he likes to cruise in and out of fights and he was given no space to cruise.

Reminded me of Honeyghan-Curry.
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Cyclops wrote: 22 Sep 2024, 01:31
Verdi wrote: 22 Sep 2024, 01:21 With DDD being under Frank also, the Itauma title shot should be easier to make.
Nah. I rate Itauma, but he isn't ready.
Maybe not, but if he wants to beat Tysons record, he'll have to jump in at the deep end. Even if he loses, he'll still have a potentially fantastic career.
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Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Daniel Dubois | PPV - September 21, 2024

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1676263 wrote: 22 Sep 2024, 03:42
Winter king wrote: 22 Sep 2024, 02:35 I really dont get how AJ one time can look like a stoic killer super confident and this time he looked nervous and clumsy from the first moment. Props to him for getting up and I beleive he could have taken over because Dubios thrown a lot and started to get a bit less dominent but leading with an uppercut with zero setup is just a rookie mistake. Careless. I was thinking immedaetely When Razor Ruddock did the same thing against Tommy Morrison.
1 word - pressure. Getting constantly tagged with the jab and then big hooks or overhand rights threw him off balance. AJ has never boxed 3 minutes a round either, he likes to cruise in and out of fights and he was given no space to cruise.

Reminded me of Honeyghan-Curry.

Same here.

Obviously AJ wasn't weight drained so what was it?

DDD on PEDs?
DDDs dad using voodoo?
AJ being fed donkeys in the build up?
Flashback from their sparring session?

Or was it just that Daniel was more confident and had better tactics?

Who really expected him to jump on AJ like that right from the bell?

I'd like to see a rematch, and I bet that most of the 96,000 in attendance would too.

Besides there's no one else other than Joshua who can sell as half as many tickets.

Anthony Joshua creates drama and he certainly did last night - although not exactly in the way he would have liked.

I can't remember seeing so many shocked faces. Even McGregor and Fury were left stunned and speechless.

The only one who didn't bat an eyelid was Turki Al-Sheikh. Once again he delivered an unforgettable night of boxing.
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Thomastearns wrote: 22 Sep 2024, 05:34
1676263 wrote: 22 Sep 2024, 03:42
Winter king wrote: 22 Sep 2024, 02:35 I really dont get how AJ one time can look like a stoic killer super confident and this time he looked nervous and clumsy from the first moment. Props to him for getting up and I beleive he could have taken over because Dubios thrown a lot and started to get a bit less dominent but leading with an uppercut with zero setup is just a rookie mistake. Careless. I was thinking immedaetely When Razor Ruddock did the same thing against Tommy Morrison.
1 word - pressure. Getting constantly tagged with the jab and then big hooks or overhand rights threw him off balance. AJ has never boxed 3 minutes a round either, he likes to cruise in and out of fights and he was given no space to cruise.

Reminded me of Honeyghan-Curry.

Same here.

Obviously AJ wasn't weight drained so what was it?

DDD on PEDs?
DDDs dad using voodoo?
AJ being fed donkeys in the build up?
Flashback from their sparring session?

Or was it just that Daniel was more confident and had better tactics?

Who really expected him to jump on AJ like that right from the bell?

I'd like to see a rematch, and I bet that most of the 96,000 in attendance would too.

Besides there's no one else other than Joshua who can sell as half as many tickets.

Anthony Joshua creates drama and he certainly did last night - although not exactly in the way he would have liked.

I can't remember seeing so many shocked faces. Even McGregor and Fury were left stunned and speechless.

The only one who didn't bat an eyelid was Turki Al-Sheikh. Once again he delivered an unforgettable night of boxing.



AJ is just too chinny and was forced to fight. The result was DDD steamrolled him. It was grand to watch.

Credit to DDD. He is a puncher and a fighter who fights the way he should. Now he's no great boxer nor is he a speed merchant. But he sure can hit and has a good gas tank.

But in the end these heavy weights are like race horses. They fool the experts often with how they perform. And some of them are on stuff. These heavy weights. Go figure.

I want to see a DDD re-match with Hrgoivc. He just is not being handled right. Time to switch jockeys
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Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Daniel Dubois | PPV - September 21, 2024

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Well talking of Hrg, his stock certainly goes up after this. He looked untrained, uninterested, and still was giving Dubs the knock around until he knackered out. Faired better than Joshua did.

I think the eye was always on Hrg to fight Joshua. But Dubois put a spanner in that more ways than one.
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Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Daniel Dubois | PPV - September 21, 2024

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It's crazy that some people still call AJ 'chinny' after he took so many clean punches from a power puncher like Dubois, especially in the heavyweight division.
Those punches would have knocked out almost anyone in the division.

Dubois is just a high-risk fight for anyone. He has a chin made of steel and punches like a beast. And unlike Joyce he isn't slow as f*ck.
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