Would you use an app like this?

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565958
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Would you use an app like this?

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I’m working on an iOS app that I think the community here might be interested in.

At it’s core is a strike-by-strike scoring interface that lets users quickly asign a value to moments in a fight via clockwise and counterclockwise gestures.

The problem i’m trying to solve is that scoring is subjective, but there’s no tool out there that can quantify somebody’s interpretation of the action in a fight. Existing scorecard apps make it easy to asign a winner each round, but none visualize how close or wide you felt it was.

With round-by-round graphs, and lists with timestamped strike data that could be referenced and comapred, we could elevate the standard of conversation around scoring.

Saturday’s main event was a good example of why this approach could be valuable. I noticed that most of the debate between the Bivol and Beterbiev camps came to the same conclusion: ‘it depends what you like’.

Right now development is moving at a slow, but steady pace, with the backbone of the app finalized, but lots of work to do around UI, UX and data handling.

I am planning on hosting a series of closed beta tests, to a small group of fans. So if this sounds at all interesting, and you would like to be involved, shoot me a DM.

Likewise if this idea seems flawed, with no real use case, tell me why you think that. I’ve used the Alpha version to score a bunch of contentious fights, and felt that it really helped clarify my own interpretation of what was happening. So I’d like to try and change your mind​.
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I think I have seen something like this presented for the UFC but it could have been boxing, it looked easy to understand anyway. I can't find it anywhere unfortunately but it was presented kind of as a vertical area chart with time being the Y axis and the pressure/damage being the x axis. It was only used to suggest who was effectively scoring at any one time or providing pressure and for how long but I guess the overall area could suggest a winner of the round? The result was that both could score at the same time but continued scoring would look like a dominant round all on one side (each side was coloured) with it stretching wider to each side the more they were dominating at that moment i.e. knockdowns being as far wide on the scale as possible.

Big thing that needs to be reflected is the difference between throwing punches and landing punches. Also would somehow need to reflect the damage a single punch has.

I think it would be interesting as an app and website. Also if it allows personal scoring. The more data the better I guess.
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Re: Would you use an app like this?

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joshj909 wrote: 15 Oct 2024, 13:59 I think I have seen something like this presented for the UFC but it could have been boxing, it looked easy to understand anyway. I can't find it anywhere unfortunately but it was presented kind of as a vertical area chart with time being the Y axis and the pressure/damage being the x axis. It was only used to suggest who was effectively scoring at any one time or providing pressure and for how long but I guess the overall area could suggest a winner of the round? The result was that both could score at the same time but continued scoring would look like a dominant round all on one side (each side was coloured) with it stretching wider to each side the more they were dominating at that moment i.e. knockdowns being as far wide on the scale as possible.

Big thing that needs to be reflected is the difference between throwing punches and landing punches. Also would somehow need to reflect the damage a single punch has.

I think it would be interesting as an app and website. Also if it allows personal scoring. The more data the better I guess.
The Alpha version of the app I have in progress right now is exactly that. It’s for personal use, made for fans, and built to as a tool for recording your interpretation of strikes (or defensive work) and then visualizing that as a graoh, showing who was winning in that round and by what margin.

The gesture mechanism converts circular thumb gestures into a value, by calculating the angle amount and grouping it into scoring zones. So, a gesture in the range of 0-90 would score +1, 90-180 would score +2, 180-270 would score +3 etc. With clockwise vs counterclockwise determining which fighter the score is assigned to.

So my vision for it isn’t really as a punch counter, but more of a tool for judging the effectiveness of punches that land.

If you do remember the version proposed for UFC, let me know.
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