WITTER WBC CHAMP - YAAAAAAAAAAAAAY

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Witter-Hatton will only be demanded by UK fans, will everyone else want to cancel Hatton-Castillo for the fight?

I don't see what the big deal is about a Castillo fight tbh, in his last title fight he was ko'd, when he won the title most said Johnston was robbed, Cassamoya beat him but was robbed, Mayweather schooled him twice, and he has about 7losses. Plus on top of all that he can't be relied on to make weight.

Castillo is a P4P top ten fighter heading for the hall of fame. He has fought the best out there. Mayweather didn't school him in their first fight either. To say you cant see the big deal about him is rediculous. Hatton-Castillo has much more kudos and anticipation about it than Hatton-Witter IMO. Of course I'd like to see Hatton-Witter, but Hatton-Castillo would generate much more excitement and interest worldwide.

[Phenomenal-Nutrition]

Witter-Hatton will only be demanded by UK fans, will everyone else want to cancel Hatton-Castillo for the fight?

I don't see what the big deal is about a Castillo fight tbh, in his last title fight he was ko'd, when he won the title most said Johnston was robbed, Cassamoya beat him but was robbed, Mayweather schooled him twice, and he has about 7losses. Plus on top of all that he can't be relied on to make weight.

disagree there. the Johnston fights could've gone either way - I have them 1-1. so could the Casamayor and Mayweather I.In short, Castillo held his own against OUTSTANDING boxers. He's 2-1-1 against them & that is excellent, considering he was weight drained in half of these fights (from PBF II onward). Add to them scalps like Bazan, Corrales, Lazcano, Julio Diaz and you have a man who's definied himself in hard competitive fights. Castillo is 1 or 2 big wins away from the HOF. Total record in those important fights is 6-2-1

I just haven't been a fan and felt for Cassamaya when I had him winning 8-4, I had PBF winning both fights. I've also been pissed off by his weight draining antics.

I'd definately prefer a Witter fight by a long way and see Witter a bigger threat. But I guess Hattons sees it as - well if I lose to Castillo I can rematch, and if I lose again I can fight Witter

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I don't see what the big deal is about a Castillo fight tbh, in his last title fight he was ko'd, when he won the title most said Johnston was robbed, Cassamoya beat him but was robbed, Mayweather schooled him twice, and he has about 7losses. Plus on top of all that he can't be relied on to make weight.

disagree there. the Johnston fights could've gone either way - I have them 1-1. so could the Casamayor and Mayweather I.In short, Castillo held his own against OUTSTANDING boxers. He's 2-1-1 against them & that is excellent, considering he was weight drained in half of these fights (from PBF II onward). Add to them scalps like Bazan, Corrales, Lazcano, Julio Diaz and you have a man who's definied himself in hard competitive fights. Castillo is 1 or 2 big wins away from the HOF. Total record in those important fights is 6-2-1

I just haven't been a fan and felt for Cassamaya when I had him winning 8-4, I had PBF winning both fights. I've also been pissed off by his weight draining antics.

I'd definately prefer a Witter fight by a long way and see Witter a bigger threat. But I guess Hattons sees it as - well if I lose to Castillo I can rematch, and if I lose again I can fight Witter

I've been a big fan. I can see the case for Casamayor though I still had Castillo winning (only just). I just love that no frills, well schooled pressure, the way he throws all his shots properly even if they come only in steady succession. I can see the surgical style of punchin that we associate with Chavez; as well as that upright poise that Arguello had. In a 1

His career has gone stale from being at l/w too long. I know he couldn't turn down the vacant WBC fight with Lazcano, after PBF moved up. But he admitted then that he had to cut an arm off, and he'd been up as high as 150.

Hopefully he gets a new outlook at 140; he'd be a nice addition & would make me look clever for saying that 140 might be the best weight division

As to the overweight stuff, it's annoying but we saw Barrios pull it on the weekend; we saw Rosendo Alvarez do it to Ricardo Lopez in that great 2nd fight. Castillo got hung out to dry only because he cost ppl money. If Corrales was the legend that ppl wanted him to be he would've beaten Castillo 2nd time and even a 3rd time. That's what the great Lopez did to Alvarez & that's what a confident Guzman did to Barrios.

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As pleased as I am for Witter you'd have to be mad to want to see him as Hatton's next opponent over Castillo.

I'm not a huge fan of Hatton's style, it's been the same repetitve charge forward for so long, and I still feel a fleet footed fighter at the top of his game would expose his limitations in a big way. But Castillo is an absolute fighting machine and could be very strong at 140. It's a fantastic match up.

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in cagey fights like that, he does better when countering. Witter was either lunging (missing a lot) or surprising with counters. JW's best success was when Corley tried a serious attack early (rd 3, i think). Corley opened up 4 times & though he landed, Witter nailed him each time, putting him in his place with better shots. So forgive my emphasis on counter punching. The fifth rd shots that had Corley almost down were ascything left-right counter, etc. If I rmemeber right the rd 8 assault that wobbled Corley was also in reply.

JW wouldn't be able to get away with that all night, as Corley ended up being like this fish that bangs into the glass barrier. The fish will stop banging its face & try to find a way round. I think he badly reduced Corley's shot at winning by replying with better shots; and then totally psyched him out, by cutting off the line DC's shots would travel in (breaking someone's rhythm in the truest sense). Playing the percentages, reducing Corley's chance to close to zero. As Corley had no conficence in moving his hands. Mind games that worked a treat.

So counter punches lunge? I thought they replied to lunges? The shots that hit Corley were not massively accurate, I seem to recall many landing on the temple, letting a guy throw a jab, slipping it and bringing your right hand around and hitting his chin is a pretty decent counter for me. Every fighter with an unorthodox style is said to be some kind of counterer, even if the style overlooks that the best counter punchers have decent balance. Reading the strands this fight is being mythologised, it was a mess, Corley looked shot to bits and Witter like a man who has had better days and is on a shaky base.

This was not a countering masterclass, it was a fight with sporadic punching and poor technique, as opposed to the high levels of technique Sky told us we are seeing negate one another. Watching it made me feel, as a fan, that Witter had blown a big chance to force a big fight, meaningless mandatories may beckon.

I'm not getting at Witter, read the stuff by Jimmy on BBN though, Witter wants big fights, they don't just fall out of the sky, you have to make them and on Friday's form those fights will not be made. Boxing owes no one a living, saying you want big fights does not mean you deserve them, especially when you have had three big showcases in which you showed you can fight only fire in fits and spurts and you are not a TV fighter beyond a certain class.

This fight, on Friday, was not a counter punching masterclass, we were not watching Locche at work in there.

lol, i was referring to the wild leads when he was lunging, missing & faling into clinches. as opposed to the counters to Corley's leads that were prety effective.

All Ingle fighters seem to want to make sure the other guy can't hit him, then when they've 'clipped the opponent's wings' they like to punch. There's always that cautiousness in ppl like Nelson and Witter, where they don't seem truly comfortable unless they're exploiting a space opened up from the other man's miss.

sure it wasn't a masterclass, but it was clever & effective despite the wonky punching technique & messiness. certainly an absolute nightmare for the opponent & a turn off for potential foes. but i'm glad to see that weird Ingle style not get wasted on power madness (ie Naz)

it wasn't a good fight by any stretch. but to me, that was an 118-110 win

put Witter in with an aggressive fighter like Lazcano, that would showcase his skills and probably power

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I like the idea of facing Harris. Vivian might be top IBF rated but he has to wait for Hatton0Urnago and Castillo, which is probably at least 18 months before he can challenge

He's also rated by the WBC quite highlt. At this stage he cannot afford to picked and choose His punching and skills give him class. But if Witter could make him miss & bedevil him, Harris could well lose his composure and get his ears boxed off

[jamesmcdonnell]

When did Tackie have Hatton on queer street, what utter rot!
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umm did you actually watch that fight - see the 12th round, I actually think its on Hattons site. Hes all over the place really hurt. As for Tyszu hitting him flush - he did but wasn't quite balanced or getting proper extension

Of course I watched the fight. I have no recollection of Hatton being badly hurt, he boxed Tackie's ears off all night.

Collazo had him in big trouble however, but I have no recollection of Hatton being all over the place during the Tackie fight.

[Phenomenal-Nutrition]

When did Tackie have Hatton on queer street, what utter rot!
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umm did you actually watch that fight - see the 12th round, I actually think its on Hattons site. Hes all over the place really hurt. As for Tyszu hitting him flush - he did but wasn't quite balanced or getting proper extension

Of course I watched the fight. I have no recollection of Hatton being badly hurt, he boxed Tackie's ears off all night.

Collazo had him in big trouble however, but I have no recollection of Hatton being all over the place during the Tackie fight.

You must have gone to kitchen for the last round or something goto Rickys website and goto the clips section it used to be on there

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When did Tackie have Hatton on queer street, what utter rot!
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umm did you actually watch that fight - see the 12th round, I actually think its on Hattons site. Hes all over the place really hurt. As for Tyszu hitting him flush - he did but wasn't quite balanced or getting proper extension

Of course I watched the fight. I have no recollection of Hatton being badly hurt, he boxed Tackie's ears off all night.

Collazo had him in big trouble however, but I have no recollection of Hatton being all over the place during the Tackie fight.

I'm sure Tackie wobbled him in the last round

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Dying seconds of the final round Hatton was wobbled yes, out on his feet? No. Something similar to Calzaghe vs Eubank.

[Bard of Boxrec]

When did Tackie have Hatton on queer street, what utter rot!
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umm did you actually watch that fight - see the 12th round, I actually think its on Hattons site. Hes all over the place really hurt. As for Tyszu hitting him flush - he did but wasn't quite balanced or getting proper extension

Of course I watched the fight. I have no recollection of Hatton being badly hurt, he boxed Tackie's ears off all night.

Collazo had him in big trouble however, but I have no recollection of Hatton being all over the place during the Tackie fight.

Watch the 12th again. I seem to remember the commentators starting to shriek in a worried manner as Hatton clung on for dear life in the closing seconds.