Dodgy Barry In The Jungle

[nobleart1978]

Has McGuigan gone in the jungle for quick money because he has had to pay Frampton the money he should have got in the first place.

It is a scandal that McGuigan, who was ripped off by his manager back in the day, should do the same.

Classic case of the abused becoming an abuser. Azumah Nelson would've smashed him anyway back in '85.

[a force]

Has McGuigan gone in the jungle for quick money because he has had to pay Frampton the money he should have got in the first place.

It is a scandal that McGuigan, who was ripped off by his manager back in the day, should do the same.

Classic case of the abused becoming an abuser. Azumah Nelson would've smashed him anyway back in '85.

You got any details of what he’s ‘had to pay Frampton’?

[Coco]

CBS has lost his title, still has Aziz though

[Ruthless-RKO]

He was crying tonight.

He talked about his daughter.

Had the whole camp in tears.

[jameswilson]

He was crying tonight.

He talked about his daughter.

Had the whole camp in tears.

To be fair I am no fan of how McGuigan has acted in recent years but losing a brother and a daughter to suicide is bloody cruel.

[Ruthless-RKO]

Yh I mean. He’s still a human..

[KiwiRider]

Has McGuigan gone in the jungle for quick money because he has had to pay Frampton the money he should have got in the first place.

It is a scandal that McGuigan, who was ripped off by his manager back in the day, should do the same.

Classic case of the abused becoming an abuser. Azumah Nelson would've smashed him anyway back in '85.

He was put in the mix at the last minute when someone pulled out.
Your right though, some really questionable behaviour, and I say that to be polite because I don't know the full story. I'm also a huge fan of Carl.

[CaptainSpacerod]

He was crying tonight.

He talked about his daughter.

Had the whole camp in tears.

To be fair I am no fan of how McGuigan has acted in recent years but losing a brother and a daughter to suicide is bloody cruel.

I think Barry’s daughter had cancer. Wasn’t it Jim Watt who lost his daughter to suicide ?

[johninmanchester]

He was crying tonight.

He talked about his daughter.

Had the whole camp in tears.

To be fair I am no fan of how McGuigan has acted in recent years but losing a brother and a daughter to suicide is bloody cruel.

Daughter killed by cancer a few years back. Brother was suicide back in the 90s.

[Fray Bentos]

Barry has had very low lows as well as his highs but we all go through the mill in this life, not easy for anyone. Even the future king has a wife and father with cancer. I wish them all well.

It wasn't easy to see Barry McGuigan cry over the loss of his daughter. It must have been hard for all the family.

[TheLeprechaun]

Most of them wouldn't even know how tough a man Barry was. That win over Pedroza was exceptional. Put it this way, to put it into context, it's a better win than Hattons win over Tszyu in my book. Barry had 32 wins in his career, 28 KOs. A Catholic fighting during the time of the Troubles and he did his part for bringing people together as much as you could under the circumstances. Also, as a side note, he married a Protestant. He's a living legend, truth be told. To see him having such a wounded heart is very sad. You know it isn't going to get any easier for him.

[johninmanchester]

it's a better win than Hattons win over Tszyu in my book

Do people really rate that win highly? Tszyu was long past his best when Hatton beat him.

[Ruthless-RKO]

it's a better win than Hattons win over Tszyu in my book

Do people really rate that win highly? Tszyu was long past his best when Hatton beat him.

true.. I think cus its the one big name that Hatton beat and no one wants to take it away from him.. ]

So, it gets hyped a lot.

[Ruthless-RKO]

It wasn't easy to see Barry McGuigan cry over the loss of his daughter. It must have been hard for all the family.

It wasn't an easy watch at all.

Had everyone else in tears too..

[mickey1975]

it's a better win than Hattons win over Tszyu in my book

Do people really rate that win highly? Tszyu was long past his best when Hatton beat him.

true.. I think cus its the one big name that Hatton beat and no one wants to take it away from him.. ]

So, it gets hyped a lot.

No, it's because Kostya hadn't been knocked off his perch, was still the number one in the division and the favourite going in.
Castillo was a big name, too.

[MasterG]

Losing family to suicide (my brother took his own life) and we've all had family that have died from cancer. Losing any family member is hard and I appreciate that. It does not give you permission to be a wanker though. Yes we can take a change in personality into account but it's not an excuse to be a knobhead all the time.

I have mentioned this before, I was in contact with Barry many years ago regarding the boxing union he was boxing to form and he was really open and honest and offered me a job if the union took off.

Years later I was again in contact with him regarding some comments he made in Boxing News but they contradicted comments he had made on a TV broadcast. I cannot remember the comments, it was lots of years ago. Barry was a bit of a jerk and quite hostile to me. That changed my opinion of him as a man.

Needless to say, I do feel for individuals who have lost kids, that's really hard

[jameswilson]

He was crying tonight.

He talked about his daughter.

Had the whole camp in tears.

To be fair I am no fan of how McGuigan has acted in recent years but losing a brother and a daughter to suicide is bloody cruel.

Daughter killed by cancer a few years back. Brother was suicide back in the 90s.

I stand corrected. Not sure why I thought both were suicide.

[nobleart1978]

Why has this post gone off on a tangent about Kostya Tszyu and suicide?

The question I want the answer to is has Barry gone on the show so he can recoup some money back relatively quickly that he may have had to pay Frampton because he or his promotional company ripped him off ?

[MightyWarrior]

Barry McGuigan is a legend, my god what a fighter he was in the 80s - no one could handle him - apart from one of the greatest of all time. The awesome Azumah Nelson, the mighty warrior. Barry had everything: power chin boxing ability stamina, a left hook from hell and the heart of a lion.

I haven’t followed the case closely, but there’s two sides to every story surely. I did have the impression it was Barry’s family who were taking advantage of carl’s money rather than Barry doing anything despicable - turning a blind eye to the unfortunate greed of loved family members.
I think basically he’s a good man, he’s got a good son too. I’ve not watched the I’m a celebrity stuff. None of those mooks will have a clue who he is. Yeah very tough losses for him, a daughter and his brother back in the day

[nobleart1978]

The abused becoming an abuser.
Dispicable.

[MasterG]

Why has this post gone off on a tangent about Kostya Tszyu and suicide?

The question I want the answer to is has Barry gone on the show so he can recoup some money back relatively quickly that he may have had to pay Frampton because he or his promotional company ripped him off ?

Your answer is properly yes, he has gone on the show for the pay day.

[Ruthless-RKO]

Why has this post gone off on a tangent about Kostya Tszyu and suicide?

The question I want the answer to is has Barry gone on the show so he can recoup some money back relatively quickly that he may have had to pay Frampton because he or his promotional company ripped him off ?

Your answer is properly yes, he has gone on the show for the pay day.

Don't they all go for payday? (revival of career)

[Wrists]

it's a better win than Hattons win over Tszyu in my book

Do people really rate that win highly? Tszyu was long past his best when Hatton beat him.

true.. I think cus its the one big name that Hatton beat and no one wants to take it away from him.. ]

So, it gets hyped a lot.

Dear me - he'd banjoed Sharmba Mitchell in his fight previous. Its revisionism at its worst to slag off this win for Hatton. One of the best wins by a British fighter we've seen.

[Ruthless-RKO]

back on topic... as we know it was all settled. No one knows what was paid.

I remember covering all the court dates on a thread here..

viewtopic.php?p=5456978#p5456978

this was it being settled.

There's tonnes of posts and pages prior.

I believe it got settled conveniently, when the 10,000 'lost' emails were recovered.

[nobleart1978]

Azumah Nelson would still have laid him out !