Oleksandr Usyk vs. Tyson Fury II | PPV - 21 December 2024

[keithmoonhangover]

Tyson sounds completely delusional to me.

He is making out as if he never got hurt, when the fact is, he was saved from an almost certain battering into unconsciousness by a ref who muffed the call. Antother 3-4 clean shots, and there's no chance he survives the round.

By hook or by crook, he's getting beat again.

I just don't think he's accepted the loss. When SRL lost to Duran, he used it as motivation for the rematch and he had laser focus for it.

Did you catch Adam Smith on TalkSport talking about his visit to Usyk's training camp?

[mickey1975]

Tyson sounds completely delusional to me.

He is making out as if he never got hurt, when the fact is, he was saved from an almost certain battering into unconsciousness by a ref who muffed the call. Antother 3-4 clean shots, and there's no chance he survives the round.

By hook or by crook, he's getting beat again.

I don't believe he thinks that for a second.

[mickey1975]

Tyson sounds completely delusional to me.

He is making out as if he never got hurt, when the fact is, he was saved from an almost certain battering into unconsciousness by a ref who muffed the call. Antother 3-4 clean shots, and there's no chance he survives the round.

By hook or by crook, he's getting beat again.

I just don't think he's accepted the loss. When SRL lost to Duran, he used it as motivation for the rematch and he had laser focus for it.

Did you catch Adam Smith on TalkSport talking about his visit to Usyk's training camp?

I genuinely believe Tyson will be using the same motivation himself.

[jamesmcdonnell]

Tyson sounds completely delusional to me.

He is making out as if he never got hurt, when the fact is, he was saved from an almost certain battering into unconsciousness by a ref who muffed the call. Antother 3-4 clean shots, and there's no chance he survives the round.

By hook or by crook, he's getting beat again.

I just don't think he's accepted the loss. When SRL lost to Duran, he used it as motivation for the rematch and he had laser focus for it.

Did you catch Adam Smith on TalkSport talking about his visit to Usyk's training camp?

No, any good?

[keithmoonhangover]

Tyson sounds completely delusional to me.

He is making out as if he never got hurt, when the fact is, he was saved from an almost certain battering into unconsciousness by a ref who muffed the call. Antother 3-4 clean shots, and there's no chance he survives the round.

By hook or by crook, he's getting beat again.

I just don't think he's accepted the loss. When SRL lost to Duran, he used it as motivation for the rematch and he had laser focus for it.

Did you catch Adam Smith on TalkSport talking about his visit to Usyk's training camp?

No, any good?

Yeah, it was good. Total focus, while having fun doing it. Lots of swimming, juggling and playing football.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pgl5sBjoSHA

[keithmoonhangover]

Tyson sounds completely delusional to me.

He is making out as if he never got hurt, when the fact is, he was saved from an almost certain battering into unconsciousness by a ref who muffed the call. Antother 3-4 clean shots, and there's no chance he survives the round.

By hook or by crook, he's getting beat again.

I just don't think he's accepted the loss. When SRL lost to Duran, he used it as motivation for the rematch and he had laser focus for it.

Did you catch Adam Smith on TalkSport talking about his visit to Usyk's training camp?

I genuinely believe Tyson will be using the same motivation himself.

But he doesn't think he lost the fight. You don't get over your ex until you accept she's dumped you for someone else.

[mickey1975]

I believe he knows he lost. He's not stupid.

[margaret thatcher]

im not sure, there are some people here even who thought he won, others who say it was all down to one punch.. so i can only imagine that the man himself, with all his team behind him, thought he won too and that it was just an unlucky moment

that said, just because someone thought they won the first time, doesnt mean they wont be motivated for a rematch or not be prepared to adjust

[coneye]

I think he'll be well motivated for this one , theres no doubt about that , what i don't know is how will he approach this one to grab a victory , will he go for a ko , Usyk has shown to be vunerable on occasions , or will he run , , jab , run , hold , and try to steal a points win , Either way one thing i do know is Usyk will be prepared , he always is.

I think his cousin Andy will be the key point in this fight , get the idiot dad out the way and it leaves a proper corner to give instructions , one corner one voice , we all now that , but in honesty i don't believe sugars way of boxing will be enough to beat Usyk , i think its the voice of Andy in sugars ear during the rnds that will make a difference

[keithmoonhangover]

I believe he knows he lost. He's not stupid.

I've always thought Fury is an intelligent chap, but that doesn't mean he's going to be 100% prepared for the fight. Looking at Usyk's training and physique, I think he's going to be.

[tonyevs]

Fury has looked increasingly vulnerable in his last few fights. The glancing shot by Ngannou .. the way he dramatically crumbled from that initial punch by Usyk.

I expect Fury will be 100% focused and motivated, and with his size advantage he will always be capable of stopping Usyk if he catches him cleanly again.
But he looks to have fattened himself up more this time and if he doesn't get to Usyk early then he will gas even quicker and fall even sooner.

[coneye]

Fury has looked increasingly vulnerable in his last few fights. The glancing shot by Ngannou .. the way he dramatically crumbled from that initial punch by Usyk.

I expect Fury will be 100% focused and motivated, and with his size advantage he will always be capable of stopping Usyk if he catches him cleanly again.
But he looks to have fattened himself up more this time and if he doesn't get to Usyk early then he will gas even quicker and fall even sooner.

I.ve not been taking much notice , but if he has fattened himself up i suspect he'll be going more for a one two hold and maul style , Sugar seems to like that style personaly i think it will fall right into Usyks arms , or should i say punches , Usyk is quick enough to land the odd one or two before Tyson gets the clinch , and we all know he hits hard enough to damage Fury , so like i said previous , a lot is gonna count on what Andy says to sugar between rnds , .

[keithmoonhangover]

Fury has looked increasingly vulnerable in his last few fights. The glancing shot by Ngannou .. the way he dramatically crumbled from that initial punch by Usyk.

I expect Fury will be 100% focused and motivated, and with his size advantage he will always be capable of stopping Usyk if he catches him cleanly again.
But he looks to have fattened himself up more this time and if he doesn't get to Usyk early then he will gas even quicker and fall even sooner.

I.ve not been taking much notice , but if he has fattened himself up i suspect he'll be going more for a one two hold and maul style , Sugar seems to like that style personaly i think it will fall right into Usyks arms , or should i say punches , Usyk is quick enough to land the odd one or two before Tyson gets the clinch , and we all know he hits hard enough to damage Fury , so like i said previous , a lot is gonna count on what Andy says to sugar between rnds , .

Have you noticed how good Usyk is at avoiding/getting out of clinches? Or is it just me?

[coneye]

Fury has looked increasingly vulnerable in his last few fights. The glancing shot by Ngannou .. the way he dramatically crumbled from that initial punch by Usyk.

I expect Fury will be 100% focused and motivated, and with his size advantage he will always be capable of stopping Usyk if he catches him cleanly again.
But he looks to have fattened himself up more this time and if he doesn't get to Usyk early then he will gas even quicker and fall even sooner.

I.ve not been taking much notice , but if he has fattened himself up i suspect he'll be going more for a one two hold and maul style , Sugar seems to like that style personaly i think it will fall right into Usyks arms , or should i say punches , Usyk is quick enough to land the odd one or two before Tyson gets the clinch , and we all know he hits hard enough to damage Fury , so like i said previous , a lot is gonna count on what Andy says to sugar between rnds , .

Have you noticed how good Usyk is at avoiding/getting out of clinches? Or is it just me?

I could'nt help but notice how good he is at most things LOL , Its that footwork , balance and perfect distancing he brings especielly for a big fella

[Kilburn]

Can’t believe it’s only a couple of weeks away now. I get the feeling this rematch is going to live up to expectations.

Can Fury maintain what he set out with last time, or will Usyk “work him out” again…

[keithmoonhangover]

Can’t believe it’s only a couple of weeks away now. I get the feeling this rematch is going to live up to expectations.

Can Fury maintain what he set out with last time, or will Usyk “work him out” again…

Just my opinion, but I think Usyk already worked him out and is going to show that from the first round.

[Kilburn]

Can’t believe it’s only a couple of weeks away now. I get the feeling this rematch is going to live up to expectations.

Can Fury maintain what he set out with last time, or will Usyk “work him out” again…

Just my opinion, but I think Usyk already worked him out and is going to show that from the first round.

You may well be right Keith. Personally though I’m not convinced that Usyk walks into this with so much control over proceedings. He would have loved to boss things from the off last time but couldn’t, nowhere near.

[Coco]

Do people think Fury will turn up?

[jamesmcdonnell]

Fury has looked increasingly vulnerable in his last few fights. The glancing shot by Ngannou .. the way he dramatically crumbled from that initial punch by Usyk.

I expect Fury will be 100% focused and motivated, and with his size advantage he will always be capable of stopping Usyk if he catches him cleanly again.
But he looks to have fattened himself up more this time and if he doesn't get to Usyk early then he will gas even quicker and fall even sooner.

Yes, I've been thinking the same, I think his punch resistance has deteriorated a lot in the last few years. He still has good powers of recovery, very good in fact.

[Ruthless-RKO]

Do people think Fury will turn up?

As in for the fight?

[keithmoonhangover]

Do people think Fury will turn up?

Physically? Mentally?

[keithmoonhangover]

Fury has looked increasingly vulnerable in his last few fights. The glancing shot by Ngannou .. the way he dramatically crumbled from that initial punch by Usyk.

I expect Fury will be 100% focused and motivated, and with his size advantage he will always be capable of stopping Usyk if he catches him cleanly again.
But he looks to have fattened himself up more this time and if he doesn't get to Usyk early then he will gas even quicker and fall even sooner.

Yes, I've been thinking the same, I think his punch resistance has deteriorated a lot in the last few years. He still has good powers of recovery, very good in fact.

100% agree on the recovery, but for both Usyk and Wilder 3, the bell for the end of the round sounded at the right time. That's boxing though.

[Coco]

Do people think Fury will turn up?

As in for the fight?

There was a lot of talk that he would pull out of the first one.
Now down the line, after that gruelling fight, with all the money he has, he might decide he doesn't fancy it

[The Gratest]

Do people think Fury will turn up?

As in for the fight?

There was a lot of talk that he would pull out of the first one.
Now down the line, after that gruelling fight, with all the money he has, he might decide he doesn't fancy it

Turkles has probably already put in another £10mill penalty pull out clause in this contract.

[keithmoonhangover]

Do people think Fury will turn up?

As in for the fight?

There was a lot of talk that he would pull out of the first one.
Now down the line, after that gruelling fight, with all the money he has, he might decide he doesn't fancy it

He did pull out of the first one with a cut, so it's possible. He did say that when David Haye got a cut, he himself, being a fighting man, would have fought with a cut.