You haven't given a percentage. You've taken one division in one country. What are the overall stats?keithmoonhangover wrote: ↑14 Dec 2024, 13:38I didn't say that, I have zero problem with gypsies, it's PED cheats I hate. I was just highlighting the high percentage that fails tests.
Peter McGrail versus Dennis McCann
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mickey1975
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Gutted this has happened. It was a great fight, and I thought McGrail would take that cocky fornicate to school.
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Controversial
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It’s amazing that they’re so brazen about it.
I follow cycling & to even be associated with a suspicious doctor was devastating for a riders reputation. Boxing needs a Paul Kimmage type to properly look into this ‘doctor’.
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margaret thatcher
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Re: Peter McGrail versus Dennis McCann
Dr uz giving his boys too many eggs still?
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TheLeprechaun
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It's just an unwritten rule that everyone is on it.
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I saw one post that said he had an England amateur boxing lanyard around his neck in a photoa force wrote: ↑14 Dec 2024, 21:01It’s amazing that they’re so brazen about it.
I follow cycling & to even be associated with a suspicious doctor was devastating for a riders reputation. Boxing needs a Paul Kimmage type to properly look into this ‘doctor’.
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golden_labrador
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hard to think otherwise. if it weren't the case, surely all the clean superstars would be using their platform to absolutely shout from the rooftop about cheats who are caught. a lot of silence, which i know could be explained in different ways, but still...
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Boxerbeetle
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It must be a good 80% at minimum.
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TheLeprechaun
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The ones who shout up the most are the ones who were definitely on it. Just my opinion but I'd bet money on it.golden_labrador wrote: ↑15 Dec 2024, 11:41hard to think otherwise. if it weren't the case, surely all the clean superstars would be using their platform to absolutely shout from the rooftop about cheats who are caught. a lot of silence, which i know could be explained in different ways, but still...
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TheLeprechaun
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We'll get the usual denials and then some excuse. A short ban and back to business.. We know the script.
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golden_labrador
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true datTheLeprechaun wrote: ↑15 Dec 2024, 13:50The ones who shout up the most are the ones who were definitely on it. Just my opinion but I'd bet money on it.golden_labrador wrote: ↑15 Dec 2024, 11:41hard to think otherwise. if it weren't the case, surely all the clean superstars would be using their platform to absolutely shout from the rooftop about cheats who are caught. a lot of silence, which i know could be explained in different ways, but still...
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Benn has been out for a couple of years, getting off isn't straightforwardTheLeprechaun wrote: ↑15 Dec 2024, 13:51 We'll get the usual denials and then some excuse. A short ban and back to business.. We know the script.
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TheLeprechaun
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That's because he was raised with such a silver spoon that he couldn't even do what is normally done and make an excuse about it and get a ban and be done with it. He was so petulant that he had to try to "clear his name". Correct me if I'm wrong but he's saying it wasn't even in his system and the tests were dodgy?
The kid is covered in "hard man" tattoos and got beard transplants. That tells you all you need to know about the mindset.
I'm trying to imagine Riddick Bowe doing that...
The kid is covered in "hard man" tattoos and got beard transplants. That tells you all you need to know about the mindset.
I'm trying to imagine Riddick Bowe doing that...
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Do many fighters admit to cheating without making an excuse why they failed a test?TheLeprechaun wrote: ↑15 Dec 2024, 16:13 That's because he was raised with such a silver spoon that he couldn't even do what is normally done and make an excuse about it and get a ban and be done with it. He was so petulant that he had to try to "clear his name". Correct me if I'm wrong but he's saying it wasn't even in his system and the tests were dodgy?
The kid is covered in "hard man" tattoos and got beard transplants. That tells you all you need to know about the mindset.
I'm trying to imagine Riddick Bowe doing that...
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handsofstone
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Amir Khan has proven you should only get caught juicing in your last fight and nobody will care
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TheLeprechaun
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Controversial wrote: ↑15 Dec 2024, 16:43Do many fighters admit to cheating without making an excuse why they failed a test?TheLeprechaun wrote: ↑15 Dec 2024, 16:13 That's because he was raised with such a silver spoon that he couldn't even do what is normally done and make an excuse about it and get a ban and be done with it. He was so petulant that he had to try to "clear his name". Correct me if I'm wrong but he's saying it wasn't even in his system and the tests were dodgy?
The kid is covered in "hard man" tattoos and got beard transplants. That tells you all you need to know about the mindset.
I'm trying to imagine Riddick Bowe doing that...
Thats what I'm saying. He was too petulant and used to the silver spoon life to not have "cleared his name" and now we get some rubbish about how there was no clomifene in any test - I believe thats the party line now although I'm prepared to stand corrected on that. Instead of just blaming it on a supplement or something - like we usually get. Comical and embarrassing stuff.
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Boxerbeetle
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Re: Peter McGrail versus Dennis McCann
The fact he got the shit kicked out of him probably helped too, tbf.handsofstone wrote: ↑15 Dec 2024, 17:17 Amir Khan has proven you should only get caught juicing in your last fight and nobody will care
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I remember DelBoy saying that (I think) Whyte (?) or possibly almost anyone else need to be banned for at least the mandatory 2 (?) years.., "otherwise I might as well start using" !
I wish I could dig up the video, but he defo sounded like he wasn't using, but felt like a mug for not doing so and was seriously consdiering doing so.
The punishments are a joke, so why wouldn't you..?
I wish I could dig up the video, but he defo sounded like he wasn't using, but felt like a mug for not doing so and was seriously consdiering doing so.
The punishments are a joke, so why wouldn't you..?
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TheLeprechaun
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Re: Peter McGrail versus Dennis McCann
Does anyone believe Kell wasn't on gear?handsofstone wrote: ↑15 Dec 2024, 17:17 Amir Khan has proven you should only get caught juicing in your last fight and nobody will care
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If there’s one fighter I’m convinced doped during his prime it’s Khan.handsofstone wrote: ↑15 Dec 2024, 17:17 Amir Khan has proven you should only get caught juicing in your last fight and nobody will care
Khan before & after Ariza is a completely different fighter to the one who worked with Ariza.
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TheLeprechaun
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Re: Peter McGrail versus Dennis McCann
The fact of the matter is, if you aren't on gear you're a mug. This isn't the 1950s.
Re: Peter McGrail versus Dennis McCann
I am a Brook fan so I’m a bit biased but he did pass vada testing for several fights & never really showed a sudden change in performance level like others did.TheLeprechaun wrote: ↑15 Dec 2024, 17:46Does anyone believe Kell wasn't on gear?handsofstone wrote: ↑15 Dec 2024, 17:17 Amir Khan has proven you should only get caught juicing in your last fight and nobody will care
Of course everyone knows about Galahad failing a test out of the same gym so there’s always a guilt by association possibility.
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keithmoonhangover
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PEDs means inflicting more brain damage. You're alright with that?TheLeprechaun wrote: ↑15 Dec 2024, 17:48 The fact of the matter is, if you aren't on gear you're a mug. This isn't the 1950s.