Oleksandr Usyk vs. Tyson Fury II | PPV - 21 December 2024

[keithmoonhangover]

Has he suggested what he might do after? Opetaia, Dubois/Parker or Zhang/Kabayel are the obvious options but did he state a preference?

He mentioned back down to Cruiser and Bareknuckle.

Did he really?

The article was on sky sports. I didn’t read all of it.

Either he, or Alex Krassyuk said it in an interview. I forget which, but it was definitely said.

[Ruthless-RKO]

Rhys Edwards steps in against Peter McGrail

[Ruthless-RKO]

Every heavyweight title rematch in boxing history

1899 – James J Jeffries KO 11 Bob Fitzsimmons
1902 – James J Jeffries KO 8 Bob Fitzsimmons

1906 – Tommy Burns D 20 Rounds Philadelphia Jack O’Brien
1907 – Tommy Burns W PTS 20 Rounds Philadelphia Jack O’Brien

1907 – Tommy Burns KO 1 Bill Squires
1908 – Tommy Burns KO 8 Bill Squires
1908 – Tommy Burns KO 13 Bill Squires

1926 – Gene Tunney W PTS 10 Jack Dempsey
1927 – Gene Tunney W PTS 10 Jack Dempsey

1930 – Max Schmeling DSQ 4 Jack Sharkey
1932 – Jack Sharkey W PTS 15 Max Schmeling

1940 – Joe Louis W PTS 15 Arturo Godoy
1940 – Joe Louis TKO 8 Arturo Godoy

1941 – Joe Louis DSQ 7 Buddy Baer
1942 – Joe Louis KO 1 Buddy Baer

1947 – Joe Louis W PTS 15 Jersey Joe Walcott
1948 – Joe Louis KO 11 Jersey Joe Walcott

1949 – Ezzard Charles W PTS 15 Jersey Joe Walcott NBA
1951 – Ezzard Charles W PTS 15 Jersey Joe Walcott
1951 – Jersey Joe Walcott KO 7 Ezzard Charles
1952 – Jersey Joe Walcott Pts 15 Ezzard Charles

1952 – Rocky Marciano KO 13 Jersey Joe Walcott
1953 – Rocky Marciano KO 1 Jersey Joe Walcott

1954 – Rocky Marciano W PTS 15 Ezzard Charles
1954 – Rocky Marciano KO 8 Ezzard Charles

1959 – Ingemar Johansson TKO 3 Floyd Patterson
1960 – Floyd Patterson KO 5 Ingemar Johansson
1961 – Floyd Patterson KO 6 Ingemar Johansson

1962 – Sonny Liston KO 1 Floyd Patterson
1963 – Sonny Liston KO 1 Floyd Patterson

1964 – Cassius Clay RTD 6 Sonny Liston [Clay changed his name to Muhammad Ali]
1965 – Muhammad Ali KO 1 Sonny Liston WBC

1971 – Joe Frazier W PTS 15 Muhammad Ali
1975 – Muhammad Ali TKO 14 Joe Frazier
(missed trilogy fight)

1978 – Leon Spinks W PTS 15 Muhammad Ali
1978 – Muhammad Ali W PTS 15 Leon Spinks WBA

1982 – Michael Dokes TKO 1 Mike Weaver WBA
1983 – Michael Dokes D 15 Mike Weaver WBA

1985 – Michael Spinks W PPS 15 Larry Holmes IBF
1986 – Michael Spinks W PTS 15 Larry Holmes IBF

1989 – Mike Tyson TKO 5 Frank Bruno
1996 – Mike Tyson TKO 3 Frank Bruno WBC

1992 – Riddick Bowe W PTS 12 Evander Holyfield WBC/WBA/IBF
1993 – Evander Holyfield W PTS 12 Riddick Bowe WBA/IBF

1994 – Oliver McCall TKO 2 Lennox Lewis WBC
1997 – Lennox Lewis TKO 5 Oliver McCall WBC

1996 – Evander Holyfield TKO 11 Mike Tyson WBA
1997 – Evander Holyfield DSQ 3 Mike Tyson WBA

1994 – Michael Moorer W PTS Evander Holyfield WBA/IBF
1997 – Evander Holyfield TKO 8 Michael Moorer WBA/IBF

1999 – Lennox Lewis D 12 Evander Holyfield WBA/IBF/WBC
1999 – Lennox Lewis W PTS 12 Evander Holyfield WBA/IBF/WBC

2000 – Evander Holyfield W PTS 12 John Ruiz WBA
2001 – John Ruiz W PTS 12 Evander Holyfield WBA
2001 - John Ruiz D 12 Evander Holyfield WBA

2001 – Hasim Rachman TKO 5 Lennox Lewis IBF/WBC
2001 - Lennox Lewis KO 4 Hasim Rachman BF/BC

2000 – Wladimir Klitschko W PTS Chris Byrd WBO
2006 – Wladimir Klitschko TKO 7 Chris Byrd IBF

2004 – Lamon Brewster TKO5 Wladimir Klitschko WBO
2007 – Wladimir Klitschko TKO 12 Lamon Brewster IBF

2008 – Wladimir Klitschko TKO 11 Tony Thompson IBF/WBO
2012 – Wladimir Klitschko W TKO6 Tony Thompson WBA/WBO/IBF

2015 – Deontay Wilder W PTS 12 Bermane Stiverne WBC
2017 – Deontay Wilder KO1 Bermane Stiverne WBC

2019 – Andy Ruiz Jr. TKO7 Anthony Joshua IBF/WBA/WBO
2019 – Anthony Joshua W PTS IBF/WBA/WBO

2018 – Deontay Wilder D 12 Tyson Fury WBC
2020 – Tyson Fury KO 7 Deontay Wilder WBC
2021 – Tyson Fury KO 11 Deontay Wilder WBC

2021 – Oleksandr Usyk W PTS Anthony Joshua WBA/IBF/WBO
2022 – Oleksandr Usyk W PTS Anthony Joshua WBA/IBF/WBO

[The Gratest]

Fk. Please not another shitey music show

you think it would have been announced by now

Rumours are it's a surprise performance by the man himself; Turki doing a Stars in Their Eyes version of Freddy Mercury.

[keithmoonhangover]

Every heavyweight title rematch in boxing history

1899 – James J Jeffries KO 11 Bob Fitzsimmons
1902 – James J Jeffries KO 8 Bob Fitzsimmons

1906 – Tommy Burns D 20 Rounds Philadelphia Jack O’Brien
1907 – Tommy Burns W PTS 20 Rounds Philadelphia Jack O’Brien

1907 – Tommy Burns KO 1 Bill Squires
1908 – Tommy Burns KO 8 Bill Squires
1908 – Tommy Burns KO 13 Bill Squires

1926 – Gene Tunney W PTS 10 Jack Dempsey
1927 – Gene Tunney W PTS 10 Jack Dempsey

1930 – Max Schmeling DSQ 4 Jack Sharkey
1932 – Jack Sharkey W PTS 15 Max Schmeling

1940 – Joe Louis W PTS 15 Arturo Godoy
1940 – Joe Louis TKO 8 Arturo Godoy

1941 – Joe Louis DSQ 7 Buddy Baer
1942 – Joe Louis KO 1 Buddy Baer

1947 – Joe Louis W PTS 15 Jersey Joe Walcott
1948 – Joe Louis KO 11 Jersey Joe Walcott

1949 – Ezzard Charles W PTS 15 Jersey Joe Walcott NBA
1951 – Ezzard Charles W PTS 15 Jersey Joe Walcott
1951 – Jersey Joe Walcott KO 7 Ezzard Charles
1952 – Jersey Joe Walcott Pts 15 Ezzard Charles

1952 – Rocky Marciano KO 13 Jersey Joe Walcott
1953 – Rocky Marciano KO 1 Jersey Joe Walcott

1954 – Rocky Marciano W PTS 15 Ezzard Charles
1954 – Rocky Marciano KO 8 Ezzard Charles

1959 – Ingemar Johansson TKO 3 Floyd Patterson
1960 – Floyd Patterson KO 5 Ingemar Johansson
1961 – Floyd Patterson KO 6 Ingemar Johansson

1962 – Sonny Liston KO 1 Floyd Patterson
1963 – Sonny Liston KO 1 Floyd Patterson

1964 – Cassius Clay RTD 6 Sonny Liston [Clay changed his name to Muhammad Ali]
1965 – Muhammad Ali KO 1 Sonny Liston WBC

1971 – Joe Frazier W PTS 15 Muhammad Ali
1975 – Muhammad Ali TKO 14 Joe Frazier
(missed trilogy fight)

1978 – Leon Spinks W PTS 15 Muhammad Ali
1978 – Muhammad Ali W PTS 15 Leon Spinks WBA

1982 – Michael Dokes TKO 1 Mike Weaver WBA
1983 – Michael Dokes D 15 Mike Weaver WBA

1985 – Michael Spinks W PPS 15 Larry Holmes IBF
1986 – Michael Spinks W PTS 15 Larry Holmes IBF

1989 – Mike Tyson TKO 5 Frank Bruno
1996 – Mike Tyson TKO 3 Frank Bruno WBC

1992 – Riddick Bowe W PTS 12 Evander Holyfield WBC/WBA/IBF
1993 – Evander Holyfield W PTS 12 Riddick Bowe WBA/IBF

1994 – Oliver McCall TKO 2 Lennox Lewis WBC
1997 – Lennox Lewis TKO 5 Oliver McCall WBC

1996 – Evander Holyfield TKO 11 Mike Tyson WBA
1997 – Evander Holyfield DSQ 3 Mike Tyson WBA

1994 – Michael Moorer W PTS Evander Holyfield WBA/IBF
1997 – Evander Holyfield TKO 8 Michael Moorer WBA/IBF

1999 – Lennox Lewis D 12 Evander Holyfield WBA/IBF/WBC
1999 – Lennox Lewis W PTS 12 Evander Holyfield WBA/IBF/WBC

2000 – Evander Holyfield W PTS 12 John Ruiz WBA
2001 – John Ruiz W PTS 12 Evander Holyfield WBA
2001 - John Ruiz D 12 Evander Holyfield WBA

2001 – Hasim Rachman TKO 5 Lennox Lewis IBF/WBC
2001 - Lennox Lewis KO 4 Hasim Rachman BF/BC

2000 – Wladimir Klitschko W PTS Chris Byrd WBO
2006 – Wladimir Klitschko TKO 7 Chris Byrd IBF

2004 – Lamon Brewster TKO5 Wladimir Klitschko WBO
2007 – Wladimir Klitschko TKO 12 Lamon Brewster IBF

2008 – Wladimir Klitschko TKO 11 Tony Thompson IBF/WBO
2012 – Wladimir Klitschko W TKO6 Tony Thompson WBA/WBO/IBF

2015 – Deontay Wilder W PTS 12 Bermane Stiverne WBC
2017 – Deontay Wilder KO1 Bermane Stiverne WBC

2019 – Andy Ruiz Jr. TKO7 Anthony Joshua IBF/WBA/WBO
2019 – Anthony Joshua W PTS IBF/WBA/WBO

2018 – Deontay Wilder D 12 Tyson Fury WBC
2020 – Tyson Fury KO 7 Deontay Wilder WBC
2021 – Tyson Fury KO 11 Deontay Wilder WBC

2021 – Oleksandr Usyk W PTS Anthony Joshua WBA/IBF/WBO
2022 – Oleksandr Usyk W PTS Anthony Joshua WBA/IBF/WBO

John Ruiz vs Valuev?

[ScottDetonator]

We've got 5 or 6 fights at Wednesday's Public Workout as well. The fights aren't listed on Boxrec yet but feature Hamed's lad as well as Chris Kongo.

[KiwiRider]

We've got 5 or 6 fights at Wednesday's Public Workout as well. The fights aren't listed on Boxrec yet but feature Hamed's lad as well as Chris Kongo.

Oh!
Thanks for that. I don't normally watch weigh ins, only the weights interest me. But I'll definitely tune in now

[Ruthless-RKO]

We've got 5 or 6 fights at Wednesday's Public Workout as well. The fights aren't listed on Boxrec yet but feature Hamed's lad as well as Chris Kongo.

Oh!
Thanks for that. I don't normally watch weigh ins, only the weights interest me. But I'll definitely tune in now

It’s Tmoro the media workouts. Not the weigh in

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[margaret thatcher]

well presumably ai still requires biased human input to function ?

[Controversial]

Not sure I’m keen on AI scoring it. Scoring fights is subjective so people will still disagree with decisions.

[KiwiRider]

well presumably ai still requires biased human input to function ?

100% already proven. Who can forget the DEI vikings or black female pope?
Will this AI be pro Saudi regime and judge women's fights as both being losers who should stay at home?

[rd350lc]

Fk. Please not another shitey music show

you think it would have been announced by now

Rumours are it's a surprise performance by the man himself; Turki doing a Stars in Their Eyes version of Freddy Mercury.

Bohemian rhapsody methinks.

[tony1234]

Virgin are showing the TNT Box Office version, strange as they've been going with the DAZN PPV for these Saudi shows. This means I'll miss Adam Smith on DAZN

[Ruthless-RKO]

Not sure I’m keen on AI scoring it. Scoring fights is subjective so people will still disagree with decisions.

The ai scorecard won’t matter

[KiwiRider]

Not sure I’m keen on AI scoring it. Scoring fights is subjective so people will still disagree with decisions.

The ai scorecard won’t matter

Mate, I'm not even happy for them to trial it.
Because next thing you know it's whatever this dude says, and everyone hops to it.

[gregregegg]

Now opening myself up to extream levels of ridicule… is Dave Allen looking semi I shape?? Or is it just that he shaved.

Fit Dave Allen is a handful for fisher.

Also is this entire card going slightly under the radar or is it that I have been a bit distracted.

[rd350lc]

Now opening myself up to extream levels of ridicule… is Dave Allen looking semi I shape?? Or is it just that he shaved.

Fit Dave Allen is a handful for fisher.

Also is this entire card going slightly under the radar or is it that I have been a bit distracted.

The undercard is not the usual standard for mr Turkey, but still holds enough interest for die hards.
Casual fans probably won't know anyone on the undercard , perhaps that's why it's gone under the radar a bit.

[margaret thatcher]

Now opening myself up to extream levels of ridicule… is Dave Allen looking semi I shape?? Or is it just that he shaved.

Fit Dave Allen is a handful for fisher.

Also is this entire card going slightly under the radar or is it that I have been a bit distracted.

closing in on the top 15

[joshj909]

Now opening myself up to extream levels of ridicule… is Dave Allen looking semi I shape?? Or is it just that he shaved.

Fit Dave Allen is a handful for fisher.

Also is this entire card going slightly under the radar or is it that I have been a bit distracted.

closing in on the top 15

The shape he was in when he finished former world champ Browne and was a favorite over David 'Wilder' Price?

[forcefraser]

Shirley Allen will be a punching bag for Romford Bullshat and retire on his stool after a 5 round run out?

No way he's coming to win? Hearn (s) needs another cash fight for bosh boy.
Hope he's not made to take another Price style shellacking, that was not nice to watch.

Apart from the main event there is little on this card that interests me, apart from maybe Itauma v McKeen. Dempsey is a lump but he's been inactive since that Hrgovic fight and he didn't look great in that, although durable to an extent. Moses might smash him out early doors

[Taansend]

Dempsey is a lump but he's been inactive since that Hrgovic fight and he didn't look great in that, although durable to an extent. Moses might smash him out early doors

I'm expecting an early stoppage after a Ituama flurry. With Dempsey protesting, of course

[gregregegg]

Dempsey is a lump but he's been inactive since that Hrgovic fight and he didn't look great in that, although durable to an extent. Moses might smash him out early doors

I'm expecting an early stoppage after a Ituama flurry. With Dempsey protesting, of course

He was very tough vs hrg.

I think the refs are going to be very important in this and fish vs Allen.

While on the one hand these are both seemingly mismatches and the ref should save them if they are taking too much unanswered fire, they are also vets up against rookies and if they can survive an over excited flurry then land a counter and push back on a tired opponent it’s probably there best chance at winning…

If the flurries are landing clean on a badly hurt opponent then I’m fine with it being stopped really. But I really really hope they don’t stop it for a flurry that’s 90% on the gloves to an opponent that is still defending themselves.

[Controversial]

Now opening myself up to extream levels of ridicule… is Dave Allen looking semi I shape?? Or is it just that he shaved.

Fit Dave Allen is a handful for fisher.

Also is this entire card going slightly under the radar or is it that I have been a bit distracted.

Listened to him interviewed and said he’s trained for 8 weeks and has been guilty of not training in the past. I can’t say he filled me with confidence as said he doesn’t know if he’s past it until Fisher hits him. I reckon he will stick around for a few rounds and then Fisher will power through him.

[keithmoonhangover]

I've been predicting Uysk to beat Fury (and AJ) since he was at cruiserweight, but today I'm wavering.