Oleksandr Usyk vs. Tyson Fury II | PPV - 21 December 2024

[margaret thatcher]

Weirdly.....I am thinking Fury.

do you think he stops him this time, like you did the first time?

281...though obviously that number is a bit inflated with the clothes. wonder if he's gonna try walking usyk down this time, and will he have the tank for it.

[Hagler2002]

There's either gold coins in those pockets or they are going for an early stoppage win which for me isn't a great game plan.

[Bodyshot3]

do you think he stops him this time, like you did the first time?

281...though obviously that number is a bit inflated with the clothes. wonder if he's gonna try walking usyk down this time, and will he have the tank for it.

Weird one to be honest.....and I have had a few Christmas wines tonight I must admit!

I just think Fury gets some first fights wrong-ish - makes mistakes in preparation, underestimates guys - and then sorts himself out and delivers something much better. The Wilder and McDermott fights being a case in point.

There's no science behind my views, just an instinct that Fury will be a whole better this time.

[Boxerbeetle]

What's the point even weighing in wearing heavy clothes and shoes? Pointless.

[Hagler2002]

What's the point even weighing in wearing heavy clothes and shoes? Pointless.

Mind games!

[Miguello]

Plot twist the jacket weights 20lbs and he's in really good shape...

I can't see why else he'd be doing that. There's no point hiding it if he's all fat underneath.

[Alba]

One thing is that we don't seem to have the usual circus with his arsehole of a dad on the scene



Also it does seem the "establishment " backed by some Saudi corruption are desperate to rewrite history and trying to make it out like the first one was a 50/50 and are desperate for Fury to win

[Ruthless-RKO]

Buffer couldlnt believe the 281 his own self

Can't take notice of it though really, fully clothed

Over 20.stone even with a small leather jacket is heavy

Looks like he had layers

[Ruthless-RKO]

Plot twist the jacket weights 20lbs and he's in really good shape...

I can't see why else he'd be doing that. There's no point hiding it if he's all fat underneath.

Remember everyone thought Ruiz was playing these same mind games in the AJ rematch.. but he was just fat.

[keithmoonhangover]

Fury's gonna come out throwing bombs from the opening bell, but he won't be able to maintain the pace. Usyk's gonna chop the belly down.

[Frostieballs]

I think the extra weight plays into Usyk’s hands.

He’s going to look like he’s in The Matrix if he’s sharp.

He doesn’t even need the first few rounds to figure Fury out. He’s already done that.

[forcefraser]

Usyk stops him. Can't wait for this

[stujones]

Eddie Hearn now saying Fury won every round vs Wlad. I Remeber him previously saying how aj did a much better job.

[KiwiRider]

I do hope Usyk wins, on a recent viewing I scored it 9-3 Usyk with a 10-8 round also to be added. In the “good old days” there wouldn’t be any calls really for a rematch

You're not wrong. It was a clear win for Usyk in my eyes and many.

Can't find a way to score it for Fury.

to me, it's one and done.

But it's boxing and the fact they already thinking about trilogy, makes me think that's what they will go.

Agree. I’m seeing some terrible takes from people in the industry.

I’m seeing people make out Fury was cruising to victory until Usyk pulled some miraculous punch from nowhere in the 9th round.

Also suggestions that it was a fight of two halves & that Fury ‘dominated’ the first half of the fight. I remember loads of people including myself having Usyk winning the first 3 rounds.

What they’re telling us happened & what actually happened are worlds apart.

Teddy Atlas saying Fury won the first 7-8 rounds!

[KiwiRider]

There has been a debate about Tyson's beard this week. Does a beard lie that make much of a difference or is it an urban myth?

[Nightmare Roy]

There has been a debate about Tyson's beard this week. Does a beard lie that make much of a difference or is it an urban myth?

You have to love Usyk chilled as fcuk and mad as a box of frogs at the same time.

[Nightmare Roy]

I just don't want to see any controversy, a clear decisive winner and it going to whoever deserves it.

[KiwiRider]

I just don't want to see any controversy, a clear decisive winner and it going to whoever deserves it.

If the Saudis think there is something amiss, well I wouldn't want to be the refere or judge in question. I haven't seen a robbery on a Saudi card yet. But I haven't seen them all.

[tonyevs]

I just don't want to see any controversy, a clear decisive winner and it going to whoever deserves it.

Yes - exactly what I want to see.

I think Fury appears to be the favoured one by the organisers, and I'm sure that would have a more significant affect on a different person facing Fury than Usyk.

Fury looked bigger in the arms in recent pictures so I think he has trained as best he can at this stage of his career. As others have said, he most likely had stuff in his pockets to exaggerate his weight, but I'd expect him to be a little over 19st stepping into the ring for this.

Usyk will be vulnerable of being caught early as he pressures Fury to expend energy with a full 3st weight disadvantage. I'd expect Usyk as the better skilled boxer to have a smarter game plan on how to do this quicker than last time too .. no idea what that will look like yet though.

If Usyk stays safe the first few rounds - after 6-7rnds those heavier arms and skinny legs of Fury are going to be struggling.

May the best man win and no controversy dragging the division down further.

[forcefraser]

Greedy belly looking down the barrell of a shellacking here

[stujones]

I wouldn’t be surprised its mind games attempt and Fury might even quite close to the last weight, until we see his physique properly we cannot tell.

On a side how many belts on the line this time, I thought it would be for all minus the ibf. But Turki has done a social media post, suggesting 3 belts only? Is Pulev the only wba champ?

[Cas]

This fight won't be much different than the first other than Fury coming out trying to take Usyk out early.

Once Fury realizes Usyk isn't going anywhere and he cannot keep with the pace in the latter half, Usyk will be looking to force the stoppage this time as the cards is going to be risky and he knows it.

[samwbr]

Fury is talking a good fight in his interview with Donald Mcrae.

[Ruthless-RKO]

I wouldn’t be surprised its mind games attempt and Fury might even quite close to the last weight, until we see his physique properly we cannot tell.

On a side how many belts on the line this time, I thought it would be for all minus the ibf. But Turki has done a social media post, suggesting 3 belts only? Is Pulev the only wba champ?

3 belts is right. It’s only IBF not on the line.

WBA, WBO and WBC.

They don’t really count ring, lineal and IBO.

[Ruthless-RKO]

Damn!!

It’s fight day!!