Fighter you want to see retire in 2025

margaret thatcher
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Post by margaret thatcher »

about 15 years ago that martinez was in his prime, time flies , doesnt feel that long to me
JamesPhilips
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SeanBrennan wrote: 05 Jan 2025, 13:06
Coco wrote: 05 Jan 2025, 13:03
SeanBrennan wrote: 05 Jan 2025, 10:00 Another from me - Sergio Martinez - not fought since 2023 but not sure he’s retired
Martinez is a successful bloke, does some promoting in Spain, if he fights it is because he is bored and will handpick an opponent
Fair enough, seems a very nice bloke done some excellent anti bullying work over the years too. He used to fight in uk quite a lot early on iirc I remember watching him on random cards not sure if he was with Maloney or someone
Martinez beat Adrian Stone and Richard the secret Williams twice
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SeanBrennan wrote: 05 Jan 2025, 13:06
Coco wrote: 05 Jan 2025, 13:03
SeanBrennan wrote: 05 Jan 2025, 10:00 Another from me - Sergio Martinez - not fought since 2023 but not sure he’s retired
Martinez is a successful bloke, does some promoting in Spain, if he fights it is because he is bored and will handpick an opponent
Fair enough, seems a very nice bloke done some excellent anti bullying work over the years too. He used to fight in uk quite a lot early on iirc I remember watching him on random cards not sure if he was with Maloney or someone
Off the top of my head, Hearns brought him in as an opponent for like Richard Williams or Steve Roberts.
From there he had some big paydays in the US, I'll check now
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It was Williams and Stone!

Then went on to have big fights against Pavlik, Paul Williams and Chavez.

The ironic thing is that he was given a lot of the work because they thought he was beatable, but he kept on winning!
margaret thatcher
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Post by margaret thatcher »

had plenty of fights vs brits/irish abroad too

murray in arg

mcgowan and rose in spain

macklin and barker in usa
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margaret thatcher wrote: 05 Jan 2025, 13:23 had plenty of fights vs brits/irish abroad too

murray in arg

mcgowan and rose in spain

macklin and barker in usa
Did you think Murray was robbed?
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Coco wrote: 05 Jan 2025, 13:16 It was Williams and Stone!

Then went on to have big fights against Pavlik, Paul Williams and Chavez.

The ironic thing is that he was given a lot of the work because they thought he was beatable, but he kept on winning!
There was a decent crop of Brits around at that weight at the time and I remember thinking that Williams looked the best of the lot. I was shocked when Martinez beat him, but then he went and took him apart in the rematch. He went on the prove just how good he was though.
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That makes sense he did well as an Opponent 100 per cent
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JamesPhilips wrote: 05 Jan 2025, 13:49
margaret thatcher wrote: 05 Jan 2025, 13:23 had plenty of fights vs brits/irish abroad too

murray in arg

mcgowan and rose in spain

macklin and barker in usa
Did you think Murray was robbed?
its been a while but i think i had it 114-113 martinez, i gave him the first 3 and last 2 and a couple between that. scoring wise i didnt have a problem with him getting it. but i think murray also had a good argument for being creditted with 2 knockdowns rather than just the one, which woulda make it a draw on my card

murray fought really well, but its not a good thing to start slow and end slow, that's a lotta rounds you can give up. i also thought sturm edged murray by a point, so while murray had it unfortunate with some close decisions i dont think he was ever robbed

i did think macklin got hosed vs sturm though
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Re: Fighter you want to see retire in 2025

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JamesPhilips wrote: 03 Jan 2025, 08:51 Boxing is a dangerous game and it saddens me watching older fighters like Riddick Bowe and James Toney talk.

There are several documentaries on Youtube about old fighters with CTE, one very poignant one which includes the Quarry brothers. Also there’s a good book by Tris Dixon on brain injuries in boxing called Damage.

I hate to see fighters go on too long.

Who would you like to see turn it in?

For me:
- Derek Chisora - too many head battles and almost 40
- Usyk - now 37 and has achieved everything. Like to see him leave with his health
- Joe Joyce - has take a lot of punches, is 38. Zhang really rattled him
- Tyson Fury / Joshua - I’d like to see them fight each other then retire
- Sam Egginton - taken a lot of punches. Not sure if he’s still active
- Zhikei Zhang is 41 now would like him to get a title shot then retire this year or retire if Kabayel beats him

Any more?
Connor benn, preferably after getting McLellan'd
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SeanBrennan wrote: 05 Jan 2025, 09:58 Very bizarrely Darren Hamilton former British Champ fought just before new year after a near 10 year lay off (read it on Ben Doughtys page). How bizarre! 4 rounds loss against a British guy managed by Theo Pathitis in Germany. Seems very bonkers
Also saw John Watson the good fighter from liverpool was boxing in europe I thought it must have been a mistype.
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JamesPhilips wrote: 05 Jan 2025, 13:09
SeanBrennan wrote: 05 Jan 2025, 13:06
Coco wrote: 05 Jan 2025, 13:03

Martinez is a successful bloke, does some promoting in Spain, if he fights it is because he is bored and will handpick an opponent
Fair enough, seems a very nice bloke done some excellent anti bullying work over the years too. He used to fight in uk quite a lot early on iirc I remember watching him on random cards not sure if he was with Maloney or someone
Martinez beat Adrian Stone and Richard the secret Williams twice
Finally.

A question to which 'Richard The Secret Williams' is actually the answer.
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Re: Fighter you want to see retire in 2025

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I'm hoping Wilder never fights again.
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Re: Fighter you want to see retire in 2025

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jameswilson wrote: 06 Jan 2025, 18:30
JamesPhilips wrote: 05 Jan 2025, 13:09
SeanBrennan wrote: 05 Jan 2025, 13:06
Fair enough, seems a very nice bloke done some excellent anti bullying work over the years too. He used to fight in uk quite a lot early on iirc I remember watching him on random cards not sure if he was with Maloney or someone
Martinez beat Adrian Stone and Richard the secret Williams twice
Finally.

A question to which 'Richard The Secret Williams' is actually the answer.
:lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Fighter you want to see retire in 2025

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Inoe-Nakatani
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keithmoonhangover wrote: 07 Jan 2025, 12:09 Inoe-Nakatani
Tank-Andy Cruz
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Retire?
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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 07 Jan 2025, 12:10
keithmoonhangover wrote: 07 Jan 2025, 12:09 Inoe-Nakatani
Tank-Andy Cruz
Teraji-Bam
Zurdo-Opetaia
Retire?
Wrong thread. :lol:
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keithmoonhangover wrote: 07 Jan 2025, 12:12
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 07 Jan 2025, 12:10
keithmoonhangover wrote: 07 Jan 2025, 12:09 Inoe-Nakatani
Tank-Andy Cruz
Teraji-Bam
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Retire?
Wrong thread. :lol:
Loser can retire lol
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SeanBrennan wrote: 05 Jan 2025, 09:58 Very bizarrely Darren Hamilton former British Champ fought just before new year after a near 10 year lay off (read it on Ben Doughtys page). How bizarre! 4 rounds loss against a British guy managed by Theo Pathitis in Germany. Seems very bonkers
Just see Darren Hamilton lost in Germany at weekend a 3rd round retirement, seen the highlights Hamilton lost a point for holding , both boxers hardly landed a punch in the 2 completed round and then Hamilton went to knee at end of second round on the bell waving his right glove , looks like a hand injury and that was that.
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