Larry Holmes vs Oleksandr Usyk

[DrDuke]

Could the Undisputed deal with another Lineal?

12 rounds.

[EdwardRevolver1993]

Fascinating match-up.

Wasn't Larry openly admitting, that southpaws are a pain in the ass for him? Or something along the lines.

Usyk won't be the smaller man here. Larry was, perhaps, a tad taller. But Usyk is arguably more fit and athletic. Larry had faster hands, but Usyk is pretty quick with his hands, too.

Stylistically, I can see this fight looking like Usyk-Fury. At least, in part. And it'll end in a competitive decision, I suppose.

I'm not ready to pick Usyk yet, but I like his chances here.

[Noxy]

Holmes for me, he’s got a better CV. Top technical fighter as well with a great jab.
That’s not to put Usyk down though. I’m sure he’d give Larry plenty to think about.

[giacomino]

Holmes, something like 115-113, 116-112

[IRONFIST]

Holmes would've jabbed his head off.

[DrDuke]

Fascinating match-up.

Wasn't Larry openly admitting, that southpaws are a pain in the ass for him? Or something along the lines.

Usyk won't be the smaller man here. Larry was, perhaps, a tad taller. But Usyk is arguably more fit and athletic. Larry had faster hands, but Usyk is pretty quick with his hands, too.

Stylistically, I can see this fight looking like Usyk-Fury. At least, in part. And it'll end in a competitive decision, I suppose.

I'm not ready to pick Usyk yet, but I like his chances here.

Usyk is definitely more athletic. Who had fasrer hands is arguable, but Larry's jab and 1-2 were more polished and much harder for sure. Usyk is a volume puncher, while Larry carried powah in a single shot.

[EdwardRevolver1993]

Fascinating match-up.

Wasn't Larry openly admitting, that southpaws are a pain in the ass for him? Or something along the lines.

Usyk won't be the smaller man here. Larry was, perhaps, a tad taller. But Usyk is arguably more fit and athletic. Larry had faster hands, but Usyk is pretty quick with his hands, too.

Stylistically, I can see this fight looking like Usyk-Fury. At least, in part. And it'll end in a competitive decision, I suppose.

I'm not ready to pick Usyk yet, but I like his chances here.

Usyk is definitely more athletic. Who had fasrer hands is arguable, but Larry's jab and 1-2 were more polished and much harder for sure. Usyk is a volume puncher, while Larry carried powah in a single shot.

That's a good breakdown.

And who're you leaning towards in this match-up?

[DrDuke]

Fascinating match-up.

Wasn't Larry openly admitting, that southpaws are a pain in the ass for him? Or something along the lines.

Usyk won't be the smaller man here. Larry was, perhaps, a tad taller. But Usyk is arguably more fit and athletic. Larry had faster hands, but Usyk is pretty quick with his hands, too.

Stylistically, I can see this fight looking like Usyk-Fury. At least, in part. And it'll end in a competitive decision, I suppose.

I'm not ready to pick Usyk yet, but I like his chances here.

Usyk is definitely more athletic. Who had fasrer hands is arguable, but Larry's jab and 1-2 were more polished and much harder for sure. Usyk is a volume puncher, while Larry carried powah in a single shot.

That's a good breakdown.

And who're you leaning towards in this match-up?

Very tough to pick. It's hard to go against Holmes' reputation. Yet Holmes had some holes. I can't see Holmes dealing with adversity, like he had done vs Shavers, Snipes, Witherspoon, if he had someone like Usyk in front of him instead of those guys with the success, which they had.

[EdwardRevolver1993]

Usyk is definitely more athletic. Who had fasrer hands is arguable, but Larry's jab and 1-2 were more polished and much harder for sure. Usyk is a volume puncher, while Larry carried powah in a single shot.

That's a good breakdown.

And who're you leaning towards in this match-up?

Very tough to pick. It's hard to go against Holmes' reputation. Yet Holmes had some holes. I can't see Holmes dealing with adversity, like he had done vs Shavers, Snipes, Witherspoon, if he had someone like Usyk in front of him instead of those guys with the success, which they had.

Yeah, these mentioned guys were stylistically somewhat suitable for Holmes. The guy like Usyk (skilled, fluid, fast + a southpaw) will be a different preposition.

I also think the fight location could matter (in terms of judges). To fantasize just a little bit - where do you think this fight would've been held?

[DrDuke]

That's a good breakdown.

And who're you leaning towards in this match-up?

Very tough to pick. It's hard to go against Holmes' reputation. Yet Holmes had some holes. I can't see Holmes dealing with adversity, like he had done vs Shavers, Snipes, Witherspoon, if he had someone like Usyk in front of him instead of those guys with the success, which they had.

Yeah, these mentioned guys were stylistically somewhat suitable for Holmes. The guy like Usyk (skilled, fluid, fast + a southpaw) will be a different preposition.

I also think the fight location could matter (in terms of judges). To fantasize just a little bit - where do you think this fight would've been held?

Usyk is a road warrior, he'd go to the States.

[EdwardRevolver1993]

Very tough to pick. It's hard to go against Holmes' reputation. Yet Holmes had some holes. I can't see Holmes dealing with adversity, like he had done vs Shavers, Snipes, Witherspoon, if he had someone like Usyk in front of him instead of those guys with the success, which they had.

Yeah, these mentioned guys were stylistically somewhat suitable for Holmes. The guy like Usyk (skilled, fluid, fast + a southpaw) will be a different preposition.

I also think the fight location could matter (in terms of judges). To fantasize just a little bit - where do you think this fight would've been held?

Usyk is a road warrior, he'd go to the States.

That's what I think, too. I'd say, Vegas would get the assignment.

[EdwardRevolver1993]

Very tough to pick. It's hard to go against Holmes' reputation. Yet Holmes had some holes. I can't see Holmes dealing with adversity, like he had done vs Shavers, Snipes, Witherspoon, if he had someone like Usyk in front of him instead of those guys with the success, which they had.

Yeah, these mentioned guys were stylistically somewhat suitable for Holmes. The guy like Usyk (skilled, fluid, fast + a southpaw) will be a different preposition.

I also think the fight location could matter (in terms of judges). To fantasize just a little bit - where do you think this fight would've been held?

Usyk is a road warrior, he'd go to the States.

And by the way, which versions of both would we take for this match-up? Usyk is 37 now. But I did like his showing in the 2nd Fury fight better than in the 1st. And it's tough to say he isn't prime (even if he isn't).

Holmes at 37 wasn't bad either. He was 37 when he was coming into Spinks fight (fights he arguably won) as an undefeated champion.

What do you think?

[DrDuke]

Yeah, these mentioned guys were stylistically somewhat suitable for Holmes. The guy like Usyk (skilled, fluid, fast + a southpaw) will be a different preposition.

I also think the fight location could matter (in terms of judges). To fantasize just a little bit - where do you think this fight would've been held?

Usyk is a road warrior, he'd go to the States.

And by the way, which versions of both would we take for this match-up? Usyk is 37 now. But I did like his showing in the 2nd Fury fight better than in the 1st. And it's tough to say he isn't prime (even if he isn't).

Holmes at 37 wasn't bad either. He was 37 when he was coming into Spinks fight (fights he arguably won) as an undefeated champion.

What do you think?

I meant best versions. Usyk is probably still in prime. Both at 37 Usyk wins easily.

[keithmoonhangover]

Holmes points for me. It wouldn't be an easy night for him. Usyk would come on strong in the later rounds. Be interesting if it was a 15 rounder.

[Jeff_lacy_ko]

Larry had a great jab. I think usyk is good enough to nullify it

[scorpio83]

Holmes points for me. It wouldn't be an easy night for him. Usyk would come on strong in the later rounds. Be interesting if it was a 15 rounder.

I strongly agreed because Holmes fought 15 rounders in his heavyweight title fights 6 times. Usyk would have his moments using his southpaw jabs, left hands and combinations in the early rounds, but Holmes would prevail by sticking his quick long left jabs, right hands and combinations to his face and dancing around the ring in the later rounds as the Easton Assassin would take a decision.

[Cent0089]

Usyk decision