and no doubt he did it all with nowt but hard work, prayers and milk before bedmargaret thatcher wrote: ↑14 Jan 2025, 19:39 he also has a jersey with his name and #1 on it . super star![]()
Fury retires........yawn
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Frostieballs
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If that is 'Total Fitness' I will stick with the cardio!dookus wrote: ↑16 Jan 2025, 10:49and no doubt he did it all with nowt but hard work, prayers and milk before bedmargaret thatcher wrote: ↑14 Jan 2025, 19:39 he also has a jersey with his name and #1 on it . super star![]()
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jamesmcdonnell
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Re: Fury retires........yawn
Nightmare Roy wrote: ↑15 Jan 2025, 16:41 Well according to Uncle Fr@nk he gets to retire as the joint best Heavyweight of this century, yes that's right folks!![]()
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CaptainSpacerod
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If that was a proper leg press I'm Sugar Ray LeonardFrostieballs wrote: ↑16 Jan 2025, 11:55If that is 'Total Fitness' I will stick with the cardio!dookus wrote: ↑16 Jan 2025, 10:49and no doubt he did it all with nowt but hard work, prayers and milk before bedmargaret thatcher wrote: ↑14 Jan 2025, 19:39 he also has a jersey with his name and #1 on it . super star![]()
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What? I thought he’d retired from training years ago?
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Just a slight correction on what I said earlier in this thread.
Tyson hasn't retired 5 times like I said.
I was just reminded about his retirement announcement in 2013 after the David Haye non fight.
So officially Tyson Fury has retired 6 times.

Tyson hasn't retired 5 times like I said.
I was just reminded about his retirement announcement in 2013 after the David Haye non fight.
So officially Tyson Fury has retired 6 times.
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Has Tyson retracted his latest retirement to make the Joshua fight?

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Ruthless-RKO
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Didn’t Sean say that most strongmen are on somethingCaptainSpacerod wrote: ↑16 Jan 2025, 12:41If that was a proper leg press I'm Sugar Ray Leonard
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tigermoth87
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Nightmare Roy wrote: ↑15 Jan 2025, 16:41 Well according to Uncle Fr@nk he gets to retire as the joint best Heavyweight of this century, yes that's right folks!![]()
He's almost right. Athletes get better with every generation. . That's a scientific fact. No heavyweight from the past would be able to beat Fury or Usykk. Usykk is the best heavyweight of all time as he beat Fury. Fury is the second best of all time
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Lennox Lewis destroys him. Younger Wlad beats him too. People will even argue that Joshua can beat him because Fury ducked the fight. Fury's record is not worthy of being the second best of this century either.tigermoth87 wrote: ↑31 Jan 2025, 04:45Nightmare Roy wrote: ↑15 Jan 2025, 16:41 Well according to Uncle Fr@nk he gets to retire as the joint best Heavyweight of this century, yes that's right folks!![]()
He's almost right. Athletes get better with every generation. . That's a scientific fact. No heavyweight from the past would be able to beat Fury or Usykk. Usykk is the best heavyweight of all time as he beat Fury. Fury is the second best of all time
Also, that's not a scientific fact because it cannot be proved you numpty.
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keithmoonhangover
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Give me some scientific proof that Fury is better than Muhammad Ai.tigermoth87 wrote: ↑31 Jan 2025, 04:45Nightmare Roy wrote: ↑15 Jan 2025, 16:41 Well according to Uncle Fr@nk he gets to retire as the joint best Heavyweight of this century, yes that's right folks!![]()
He's almost right. Athletes get better with every generation. . That's a scientific fact. No heavyweight from the past would be able to beat Fury or Usykk. Usykk is the best heavyweight of all time as he beat Fury. Fury is the second best of all time
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LOL Ali would have slaughtered furykeithmoonhangover wrote: ↑31 Jan 2025, 06:19Give me some scientific proof that Fury is better than Muhammad Ai.tigermoth87 wrote: ↑31 Jan 2025, 04:45Nightmare Roy wrote: ↑15 Jan 2025, 16:41 Well according to Uncle Fr@nk he gets to retire as the joint best Heavyweight of this century, yes that's right folks!![]()
He's almost right. Athletes get better with every generation. . That's a scientific fact. No heavyweight from the past would be able to beat Fury or Usykk. Usykk is the best heavyweight of all time as he beat Fury. Fury is the second best of all time
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I'm not quite agreeing with that statement. You have to look at eras and quality. Prime Mike T would have stopped Fury inside 3. Lennox Lewis would have beaten Fury quite easily. Touch and go imo with Bruno, but I go with my gut and say Bruno would have beaten Fury, it's debatable how he would have beaten him.keithmoonhangover wrote: ↑31 Jan 2025, 06:19Give me some scientific proof that Fury is better than Muhammad Ai.tigermoth87 wrote: ↑31 Jan 2025, 04:45Nightmare Roy wrote: ↑15 Jan 2025, 16:41 Well according to Uncle Fr@nk he gets to retire as the joint best Heavyweight of this century, yes that's right folks!![]()
He's almost right. Athletes get better with every generation. . That's a scientific fact. No heavyweight from the past would be able to beat Fury or Usykk. Usykk is the best heavyweight of all time as he beat Fury. Fury is the second best of all time
Ali imo would have danced around Fury and beaten him Richard Dunn fashion.
Tommy Morrison would have sparked Fury, Ray Mercer would have done the same. Big Riddock Bowel would have knocked Fury out.
Prime Herbie Hide would have given Fury problems, though not sure if Hide could have gone 12 rounds.
I think Tim Witherspoon was better than Fury too.
Gary Mason? I need to think about that one.
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Nightmare Roy
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Lennox-Hold my pint.tigermoth87 wrote: ↑31 Jan 2025, 04:45Nightmare Roy wrote: ↑15 Jan 2025, 16:41 Well according to Uncle Fr@nk he gets to retire as the joint best Heavyweight of this century, yes that's right folks!![]()
He's almost right. Athletes get better with every generation. . That's a scientific fact. No heavyweight from the past would be able to beat Fury or Usykk. Usykk is the best heavyweight of all time as he beat Fury. Fury is the second best of all time
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I really cannot see the argument in any way to see Fury ahead of Klitschsko?
1 - Resume and Longeivty - Klitschsko every time.
2 - Ah but Fury beat Klitschsko. Yes in a close fight (hey if FW can say Fury vs Usyk was close) then absolutely Fury vs Klitschsko was razor close, Klitshcsko was over the hill (as shown also in prior performances) and Fury shat out of a rematch.
Now you could, with massive rose tinted glasses, argue that Fury's resume is better than Vitali's - but I would be pretty confident that Vitali would have had Fury for Breakfast in his pomp.
1 - Resume and Longeivty - Klitschsko every time.
2 - Ah but Fury beat Klitschsko. Yes in a close fight (hey if FW can say Fury vs Usyk was close) then absolutely Fury vs Klitschsko was razor close, Klitshcsko was over the hill (as shown also in prior performances) and Fury shat out of a rematch.
Now you could, with massive rose tinted glasses, argue that Fury's resume is better than Vitali's - but I would be pretty confident that Vitali would have had Fury for Breakfast in his pomp.
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The Docker
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Re: Fury retires........yawn
tigermoth87 wrote: ↑31 Jan 2025, 04:45Nightmare Roy wrote: ↑15 Jan 2025, 16:41 Well according to Uncle Fr@nk he gets to retire as the joint best Heavyweight of this century, yes that's right folks!![]()
He's almost right. Athletes get better with every generation. . That's a scientific fact. No heavyweight from the past would be able to beat Fury or Usykk. Usykk is the best heavyweight of all time as he beat Fury. Fury is the second best of all time
Shouldn't this mean EVERY track and field record be bettered cycley every 10 years, about the span of an elite track and fielder.
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keithmoonhangover
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OT, but Gary Mason was one of the nicest people I've ever met.MasterG wrote: ↑31 Jan 2025, 10:20I'm not quite agreeing with that statement. You have to look at eras and quality. Prime Mike T would have stopped Fury inside 3. Lennox Lewis would have beaten Fury quite easily. Touch and go imo with Bruno, but I go with my gut and say Bruno would have beaten Fury, it's debatable how he would have beaten him.keithmoonhangover wrote: ↑31 Jan 2025, 06:19Give me some scientific proof that Fury is better than Muhammad Ai.tigermoth87 wrote: ↑31 Jan 2025, 04:45
He's almost right. Athletes get better with every generation. . That's a scientific fact. No heavyweight from the past would be able to beat Fury or Usykk. Usykk is the best heavyweight of all time as he beat Fury. Fury is the second best of all time
Ali imo would have danced around Fury and beaten him Richard Dunn fashion.
Tommy Morrison would have sparked Fury, Ray Mercer would have done the same. Big Riddock Bowel would have knocked Fury out.
Prime Herbie Hide would have given Fury problems, though not sure if Hide could have gone 12 rounds.
I think Tim Witherspoon was better than Fury too.
Gary Mason? I need to think about that one.
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Frostieballs
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I said on here a couple of years ago that I thought Mason would beat Wilder. Didn’t go down too well!
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I saw an interview on Boxing Social where he said he wants to retract his retirement to make the Joshua fight, and that he has been trying to get that made for years
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margaret thatcher
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mason is cool but fought way too many stiffs, how do you even begin to know what his level really was when he goes from pretty much all cans to len lewis? what recognizable names he did beat were past their best too
from an eye test, he looked heavy handed but rather ponderous and basic, a bit like a lesser bruno
from an eye test, he looked heavy handed but rather ponderous and basic, a bit like a lesser bruno
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People on this forum always get caught up in the hype. I myself was ready to throw David Price in with Vitali after he flattened Audley, so I'm hardly in a position to judge. But trying to point out the limitations of the likes of Joshua, Fury and Wilder when they were undefeated was truly an uphill struggle.Frostieballs wrote: ↑31 Jan 2025, 14:10 I said on here a couple of years ago that I thought Mason would beat Wilder. Didn’t go down too well!
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SeanBrennan
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That’s hilarious. Training at Total Fitness and also not even doing a half rep. That man knows nothing about training. He looks like a flabby sausage.dookus wrote: ↑16 Jan 2025, 10:49and no doubt he did it all with nowt but hard work, prayers and milk before bedmargaret thatcher wrote: ↑14 Jan 2025, 19:39 he also has a jersey with his name and #1 on it . super star![]()
If you are going to consult a PED specialist I don’t even think he knows what he’s doing there as so many of his fighters get caught.
If you are in boxing you might as well go to the South Yorkshire trainer who has competed in ‘natural’ bodybuilding which basically means you know how to mask PEDS and use lighter compound anabolic and peptides and sarms. And even that person has popped for Pringles for his fighters.
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Boxerbeetle
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Re: Fury retires........yawn
I'm currently watching the Rumble in the Jungle for probably the hundredth time, as my son suddenly decided he wanted to watch it tonight for the first time. The idea that Fury would have beaten Ali is absolutely fvcking laughable, and always has been.
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gregregegg
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I just don’t see how you can watch that fight a think conclusively Ali would beat fury.Boxerbeetle wrote: ↑31 Jan 2025, 15:52 I'm currently watching the Rumble in the Jungle for probably the hundredth time, as my son suddenly decided he wanted to watch it tonight for the first time. The idea that Fury would have beaten Ali is absolutely fvcking laughable, and always has been.
Ali was 216lb beating Forman who was 220lb..
There is no real way of knowing but to watch him beat a cruiserweight sized bloke best known for his plodding and say it’s conclusive he would have smashed fury seems a stretch.
My question is where does Ali beat fury? I’m not a huge boxing historian, but what I have seen I just don’t really know where Ali beats fury so conclusively that it’s not even a question…