Solving the 'weight bully' issue is easy

[Coco]

Same day weigh ins increase the likelihood of guys fighting dehydrated and more chance of serious injury.

There isn’t an easy answer to this.

Same day weigh ins is the only answer, as Coco said.

Boxing is not a sport you mess about with and if you choose to fight dehydrated and risk even more injury, then the fighter and their management are the only ones to blame.

A bit ruthless, I know, but how is it fair allowing guys to blow up, several divisions and gain an unfair advantage and put their opponents at even more risk?

Can't do the weight, then move up.

People will always push the boundaries.

Same day weigh ins isn’t the only way but it is a way that will certainly lead to more severe injuries and fatalities in the ring.

Adding in several weigh ins leading up to the fight or doing hydration tests the day before should heavily reduce the chances of guys crashing the weight pre weigh in.

Who pays for all that?
Not a prob for a big fight, but most fighters are at work until the day of the fight.
And the board members are volunteers.
What about for short notice fights?

[maverick23]

Same day weigh ins is the only answer, as Coco said.

Boxing is not a sport you mess about with and if you choose to fight dehydrated and risk even more injury, then the fighter and their management are the only ones to blame.

A bit ruthless, I know, but how is it fair allowing guys to blow up, several divisions and gain an unfair advantage and put their opponents at even more risk?

Can't do the weight, then move up.

People will always push the boundaries.

Same day weigh ins isn’t the only way but it is a way that will certainly lead to more severe injuries and fatalities in the ring.

Adding in several weigh ins leading up to the fight or doing hydration tests the day before should heavily reduce the chances of guys crashing the weight pre weigh in.

Who pays for all that?
Not a prob for a big fight, but most fighters are at work until the day of the fight.
And the board members are volunteers.
What about for short notice fights?

Whoever licenses the fight. I’d suggest it only happens for title fights as it’s not feasible outside that. The board could pass the cost on to the promoter.

The reason same day weigh ins were removed was for fighter safety. Pretty much every recognised sport in the world is looking at ways to reduce the risk to people’s health. There’s no way boxing should or would go back and do same day weigh ins for that reason. It would leave the authorities liable if someone were to die in the ring after being found to be dehydrated following a same day weigh in. You could argue it’s the boxer’s fault for being dehydrated but the sport would be blamed for increasing the chances of that.

[keithmoonhangover]

Unlimited rehydration is madness. One guy weighing 172 and the other at 190 is just plain wrong. This is the reason we have weight divisions.

[Coco]

People will always push the boundaries.

Same day weigh ins isn’t the only way but it is a way that will certainly lead to more severe injuries and fatalities in the ring.

Adding in several weigh ins leading up to the fight or doing hydration tests the day before should heavily reduce the chances of guys crashing the weight pre weigh in.

Who pays for all that?
Not a prob for a big fight, but most fighters are at work until the day of the fight.
And the board members are volunteers.
What about for short notice fights?

Whoever licenses the fight. I’d suggest it only happens for title fights as it’s not feasible outside that. The board could pass the cost on to the promoter.

The reason same day weigh ins were removed was for fighter safety. Pretty much every recognised sport in the world is looking at ways to reduce the risk to people’s health. There’s no way boxing should or would go back and do same day weigh ins for that reason. It would leave the authorities liable if someone were to die in the ring after being found to be dehydrated following a same day weigh in. You could argue it’s the boxer’s fault for being dehydrated but the sport would be blamed for increasing the chances of that.

It can easily be said that the weight disparages are more dangerous

[maverick23]

Who pays for all that?
Not a prob for a big fight, but most fighters are at work until the day of the fight.
And the board members are volunteers.
What about for short notice fights?

Whoever licenses the fight. I’d suggest it only happens for title fights as it’s not feasible outside that. The board could pass the cost on to the promoter.

The reason same day weigh ins were removed was for fighter safety. Pretty much every recognised sport in the world is looking at ways to reduce the risk to people’s health. There’s no way boxing should or would go back and do same day weigh ins for that reason. It would leave the authorities liable if someone were to die in the ring after being found to be dehydrated following a same day weigh in. You could argue it’s the boxer’s fault for being dehydrated but the sport would be blamed for increasing the chances of that.

It can easily be said that the weight disparages are more dangerous

Which medical experts are saying that?

[Coco]

Whoever licenses the fight. I’d suggest it only happens for title fights as it’s not feasible outside that. The board could pass the cost on to the promoter.

The reason same day weigh ins were removed was for fighter safety. Pretty much every recognised sport in the world is looking at ways to reduce the risk to people’s health. There’s no way boxing should or would go back and do same day weigh ins for that reason. It would leave the authorities liable if someone were to die in the ring after being found to be dehydrated following a same day weigh in. You could argue it’s the boxer’s fault for being dehydrated but the sport would be blamed for increasing the chances of that.

It can easily be said that the weight disparages are more dangerous

Which medical experts are saying that?

No idea, but I'm willing to stick my neck out in saying that if there is a championship fight where there is a stone or more difference in weight that it is damn dangerous.
It's a dangerous sport at the best of times.

[maverick23]

It can easily be said that the weight disparages are more dangerous

Which medical experts are saying that?

No idea, but I'm willing to stick my neck out in saying that if there is a championship fight where there is a stone or more difference in weight that it is damn dangerous.
It's a dangerous sport at the best of times.

I think it is dangerous having a stone weight discrepancy. That’s why I’d like to see more check weigh ins.

I just don’t think it’s worth changing the official weigh in days to make it more dangerous for all fighters in championship fights by not giving them as much time to rehydrate to justify the change to help the few fighters fighting opponents who have out on a lot of weight post weigh in.

[Cent0089]

10 lbs rehydratation for fighters 130 lbs and lower, 12 lbs for fighters from 130 to 147, 15 lbs for fighters 154lbs and heavier seems fair to me.

[Ezzard]

It's not in the interests of promoters or TV. They want the man they've invested in to have all the advanatges until one day a younger guy comes along and they flush the old guy for the new.

[NazNaci1]

Same day weigh ins increase the likelihood of guys fighting dehydrated and more chance of serious injury.

There isn’t an easy answer to this.

Same day weigh ins is the only answer, as Coco said.

Boxing is not a sport you mess about with and if you choose to fight dehydrated and risk even more injury, then the fighter and their management are the only ones to blame.

A bit ruthless, I know, but how is it fair allowing guys to blow up, several divisions and gain an unfair advantage and put their opponents at even more risk?

Can't do the weight, then move up.

People will always push the boundaries.

Same day weigh ins isn’t the only way but it is a way that will certainly lead to more severe injuries and fatalities in the ring.

Adding in several weigh ins leading up to the fight or doing hydration tests the day before should heavily reduce the chances of guys crashing the weight pre weigh in.

To be honest, having fighters weigh significantly more on fight night, than their opponents is also risky, for the opponent and just unfair.

How many times have we watched weight bullies do this, win and keep doing it until they cannot do it any longer. The opponent is at a heavy, heavy, disadvantage.

The same day weigh ins is probably the fairest way. The only reason this was changed was because fighters (and management) too careless, didn't care, cared too late >insert any number of reasons<. Yes, that was dangerous, too, obviously.

So because some fighters can't work out, judge and discipline themselves correctly, we change the whole process and now have weigh bullies who, come fight night, weight significantly more and could severely hurt the guy they are fighting, as well as having a huge, unfair advantage. This is terrible for boxing, always has been.

Scott Harrison was one.

Gatti - Gamache leaps to mind and yes, they do not all turn out like that but that type outcome can and does happen.

Broner - Eloy Perez is another example, and though Perez was never likely to win, he was severely outweighed, got destroyed, knew he was cheated, went into depression and tragically, was murdered. That loss hit him hard and he never boxed again. So many other fighters have felt this way, so something should be done.