Daniel Dubois vs. Joseph Parker | PPV - 22 February 2025 (OFF)

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Who wins?

Poll ended at 22 Feb 2025, 04:43

Dubois - Decision
8
13%
Dubois - T/KO
25
40%
DRAW
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2%
Parker - T/KO
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5%
Parker - Decision
26
41%
 
Total votes: 63

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Re: Daniel Dubois vs. Joseph Parker | PPV - 22 February 2025

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jamesmcdonnell wrote: 06 Jan 2025, 15:28
The Gratest wrote: 06 Jan 2025, 07:42
margaret thatcher wrote: 19 Dec 2024, 13:18 how am i going to enjoy the fight without some raw juicy beef though :maybe:
Did the awkward handshake turning to fist bump not get you going? :bag:
Psychological advantage to Dubs there, made Parker adjust to what he wanted to do! (Although Dubs has no actual idea that he did this).

I'm just so undecided with this one. I like both guys a lot, especially after the routes they've taken of late, showing the balls to take on dangerous opponents, not just once but twice and then (in Dub's case) thrice!

Of the opponents they've beaten on their recent comebacks to get to where they are now, I probably rate Dub's wins higher than Parker's, but not taking anything away from Parker's impressive wins.
I just see more flaws in Parker's opponents that he was able to exploit, whereas Dubs answered a few more questions in his wins.

Wilder - he forced him on to the back foot from the start and never gave him any room to land his right hand. Wilder offered nothing in return and Parker made it look relatively simple.
Zhang - a helluva puncher, but a guy who doesn't fight at pace and very economical with his punch output. Parker fought smart and was able to keep Zhang in check at times with his own well picked punches.

After the doubts over his heart with the manner of the stoppages against Joyce and Usyk, Dubois has done a lot to quell those doubts.
The Joyce defeat...I don't know what the pain must be like getting repeatedly smacked by an 18st guy on a shattered eye socket, but it's probably pretty painful. He was still young enough to take that loss and come again rather than risking his eyesight and career.

Against Usyk, he was getting outboxed and peppered with shots. Maybe psychologically, if the opponent is offering you more of an opportunity to actually land some of your own your and feel like your still in a with a chance then you suck it up and carry on. If that feeling of every time you threw, you missed or got blocked and got countered back, then it becomes more sickening. It wasn't a good look at the time though, going down and getting stopped by a jab, and it seemed to spell the end for Dubs at World level.

His comeback has been brilliant though and against Miller and Hrg, he was in against opponents who he could land his own punches and feel them sinking in, having an effect.
The Miller stoppage is probably the most i've cheered for a fighter in a long time. Miller's a handful for anyone. He's massive and, despite his bulk, he does have a decent punch output. A lot of his punches are arm punches, but still carry considerable weight and also make the opponent think that they're getting tagged. Dubs came through some difficult moments and still had the energy to finish of Miller with a salvo near the end.
Against Hrg, he took some massive right crosses, but fired back straight away. It may have been a TKO due to Hrg's facial damage, but he'd taken the best Hrg had to offer and I think had taken the fight out of him as well by then.
He's displayed a neat double jab of late and a bit more head and lateral movement (although did eat a lot of Hrg's rights).
In a way, I rate both these wins higher than the win over Joshua. Mainly because of the weird manner in which Joshua fought. He had his hands down in a similar manner to when he got tagged the first time by Ruiz (contrast that to how tight and cautious he was against Ngannou). I don't know if he didn't see Dubs as a threat, or if the occasion got to him (strange as he's previously been in so many big fights). He was just a sitting target for Dubs to cut down and offered little in response.

With Wilder and Zhang, Parker had a game plan to exploit their weaknesses and stuck to it. Against Dubs, I think he'll end up reverting back to the Parker style that fought the likes of Whyte and Chisora. I see Dubs as being better than any version of those 2 and, unlike Wilder and Zhang, willing to let his hands go as soon as Parker throws his shots. I can see Dubs taking it on a close points win, Parker edging the earlier rounds by landing first and smothering/moving back, but then getting more involved in the middle rounds and possibly a knockdown late on for Dubs sealing the win.
If Parker gets through the first couple of rounds, when Dubois comes out of the corner like a pitbull with a lit fag stubbed out on it's ringer, I think he can take this.

The blueprint to beat Dubois has been shown, lateral movement, keep yourself out of harms way for the first few rounds, and keep landing the jab, stop dubois getting set, and keep poking away, and break his heart.

Joyce who is hardly wayne sleep footwork wise, was able to do this quite easily, as was Usyk of course.

What you cannot do, is stand winging away big shots standing in front of Dubois, as AJ found out, if he's set and able to throw bombs without having to move, he's extremely dangerous.

I like Parker's chances, provided he doesn't get hurt in the first couple of rounds.

Cue 1st round KO from Dubois.
I originally opted for Parker to do exactly that, beat Dubs to the punch, move, reset and repeat. It wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if he managed to stifle Dubs in each round and build up a lead. I just see him getting involved at some point though and Dubs building on that moment of success.
Fck, I probably will change my mind again before it starts!
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Re: Daniel Dubois vs. Joseph Parker | PPV - 22 February 2025

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The Gratest wrote: 06 Jan 2025, 19:03
jamesmcdonnell wrote: 06 Jan 2025, 15:28
The Gratest wrote: 06 Jan 2025, 07:42

Did the awkward handshake turning to fist bump not get you going? :bag:
Psychological advantage to Dubs there, made Parker adjust to what he wanted to do! (Although Dubs has no actual idea that he did this).

I'm just so undecided with this one. I like both guys a lot, especially after the routes they've taken of late, showing the balls to take on dangerous opponents, not just once but twice and then (in Dub's case) thrice!

Of the opponents they've beaten on their recent comebacks to get to where they are now, I probably rate Dub's wins higher than Parker's, but not taking anything away from Parker's impressive wins.
I just see more flaws in Parker's opponents that he was able to exploit, whereas Dubs answered a few more questions in his wins.

Wilder - he forced him on to the back foot from the start and never gave him any room to land his right hand. Wilder offered nothing in return and Parker made it look relatively simple.
Zhang - a helluva puncher, but a guy who doesn't fight at pace and very economical with his punch output. Parker fought smart and was able to keep Zhang in check at times with his own well picked punches.

After the doubts over his heart with the manner of the stoppages against Joyce and Usyk, Dubois has done a lot to quell those doubts.
The Joyce defeat...I don't know what the pain must be like getting repeatedly smacked by an 18st guy on a shattered eye socket, but it's probably pretty painful. He was still young enough to take that loss and come again rather than risking his eyesight and career.

Against Usyk, he was getting outboxed and peppered with shots. Maybe psychologically, if the opponent is offering you more of an opportunity to actually land some of your own your and feel like your still in a with a chance then you suck it up and carry on. If that feeling of every time you threw, you missed or got blocked and got countered back, then it becomes more sickening. It wasn't a good look at the time though, going down and getting stopped by a jab, and it seemed to spell the end for Dubs at World level.

His comeback has been brilliant though and against Miller and Hrg, he was in against opponents who he could land his own punches and feel them sinking in, having an effect.
The Miller stoppage is probably the most i've cheered for a fighter in a long time. Miller's a handful for anyone. He's massive and, despite his bulk, he does have a decent punch output. A lot of his punches are arm punches, but still carry considerable weight and also make the opponent think that they're getting tagged. Dubs came through some difficult moments and still had the energy to finish of Miller with a salvo near the end.
Against Hrg, he took some massive right crosses, but fired back straight away. It may have been a TKO due to Hrg's facial damage, but he'd taken the best Hrg had to offer and I think had taken the fight out of him as well by then.
He's displayed a neat double jab of late and a bit more head and lateral movement (although did eat a lot of Hrg's rights).
In a way, I rate both these wins higher than the win over Joshua. Mainly because of the weird manner in which Joshua fought. He had his hands down in a similar manner to when he got tagged the first time by Ruiz (contrast that to how tight and cautious he was against Ngannou). I don't know if he didn't see Dubs as a threat, or if the occasion got to him (strange as he's previously been in so many big fights). He was just a sitting target for Dubs to cut down and offered little in response.

With Wilder and Zhang, Parker had a game plan to exploit their weaknesses and stuck to it. Against Dubs, I think he'll end up reverting back to the Parker style that fought the likes of Whyte and Chisora. I see Dubs as being better than any version of those 2 and, unlike Wilder and Zhang, willing to let his hands go as soon as Parker throws his shots. I can see Dubs taking it on a close points win, Parker edging the earlier rounds by landing first and smothering/moving back, but then getting more involved in the middle rounds and possibly a knockdown late on for Dubs sealing the win.
If Parker gets through the first couple of rounds, when Dubois comes out of the corner like a pitbull with a lit fag stubbed out on it's ringer, I think he can take this.

The blueprint to beat Dubois has been shown, lateral movement, keep yourself out of harms way for the first few rounds, and keep landing the jab, stop dubois getting set, and keep poking away, and break his heart.

Joyce who is hardly wayne sleep footwork wise, was able to do this quite easily, as was Usyk of course.

What you cannot do, is stand winging away big shots standing in front of Dubois, as AJ found out, if he's set and able to throw bombs without having to move, he's extremely dangerous.

I like Parker's chances, provided he doesn't get hurt in the first couple of rounds.

Cue 1st round KO from Dubois.
I originally opted for Parker to do exactly that, beat Dubs to the punch, move, reset and repeat. It wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if he managed to stifle Dubs in each round and build up a lead. I just see him getting involved at some point though and Dubs building on that moment of success.
Fck, I probably will change my mind again before it starts!
Dubois doesn't seem to adjust well when he's being picked off, he's an on top fighter. Hrgovic's conditioning was shocking, he was gassed after 4 rounds of moderate action. Parker has shown to have excellent stamina thus far.

He's shown he can box to a plan, and that might be enough.

It's a great trade fight on paper.
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Re: Daniel Dubois vs. Joseph Parker | PPV - 22 February 2025

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jamesmcdonnell wrote: 06 Jan 2025, 19:41
The Gratest wrote: 06 Jan 2025, 19:03
jamesmcdonnell wrote: 06 Jan 2025, 15:28

If Parker gets through the first couple of rounds, when Dubois comes out of the corner like a pitbull with a lit fag stubbed out on it's ringer, I think he can take this.

The blueprint to beat Dubois has been shown, lateral movement, keep yourself out of harms way for the first few rounds, and keep landing the jab, stop dubois getting set, and keep poking away, and break his heart.

Joyce who is hardly wayne sleep footwork wise, was able to do this quite easily, as was Usyk of course.

What you cannot do, is stand winging away big shots standing in front of Dubois, as AJ found out, if he's set and able to throw bombs without having to move, he's extremely dangerous.

I like Parker's chances, provided he doesn't get hurt in the first couple of rounds.

Cue 1st round KO from Dubois.
I originally opted for Parker to do exactly that, beat Dubs to the punch, move, reset and repeat. It wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if he managed to stifle Dubs in each round and build up a lead. I just see him getting involved at some point though and Dubs building on that moment of success.
Fck, I probably will change my mind again before it starts!
Dubois doesn't seem to adjust well when he's being picked off, he's an on top fighter. Hrgovic's conditioning was shocking, he was gassed after 4 rounds of moderate action. Parker has shown to have excellent stamina thus far.

He's shown he can box to a plan, and that might be enough.

It's a great trade fight on paper.
Ok OK James!

Parker...points. There.
Ignore my really lengthy meandering post that took forever to type!

Aye, it certainly is. :salut:
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Re: Daniel Dubois vs. Joseph Parker | PPV - 22 February 2025

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The Gratest wrote: 06 Jan 2025, 19:45
jamesmcdonnell wrote: 06 Jan 2025, 19:41
The Gratest wrote: 06 Jan 2025, 19:03
I originally opted for Parker to do exactly that, beat Dubs to the punch, move, reset and repeat. It wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if he managed to stifle Dubs in each round and build up a lead. I just see him getting involved at some point though and Dubs building on that moment of success.
Fck, I probably will change my mind again before it starts!
Dubois doesn't seem to adjust well when he's being picked off, he's an on top fighter. Hrgovic's conditioning was shocking, he was gassed after 4 rounds of moderate action. Parker has shown to have excellent stamina thus far.

He's shown he can box to a plan, and that might be enough.

It's a great trade fight on paper.
Ok OK James!

Parker...points. There.
Ignore my really lengthy meandering post that took forever to type!

Aye, it certainly is. :salut:
I'm looking forward to it, could go any number of ways, which is why it's such a good fight. Parker is a solid opponent and vastly experienced at this stage
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Re: Daniel Dubois vs. Joseph Parker | PPV - 22 February 2025

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Hard to imagine anything other than a Parker win. Love DDD's personality and how he goes about his career. Just don't think he has enough ability to beat Parker. Daniel will have his moments but Parker will win wide on the cards...
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I've gone Parker on points too. Would love to watch Usyk-Parker
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Bad style for Dubois.
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TheLeprechaun wrote: 07 Jan 2025, 07:09 Bad style for Dubois.
I know right? :maybe:
Before this fight was announced there was a possibility of Parker vs Kayabel and Doobie vs Zhang. Both options would be great matches I thought.
But then again Parker has earned his chance at a world title, and I can't really argue with that.
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Re: Daniel Dubois vs. Joseph Parker | PPV - 22 February 2025

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The only positive is that Parker usually goes the distance and focuses on self preservation in the ring. He has a good chin and will be mobile in this fight, fencing when he can. Even if Dubois is winning the fight I still think he will have to ship the few odd punches from Parker here and there as he comes in with punches. I'm not sold on Dubois chin at all. As a general rule, I don't like to pick a guy to beat another fighter who has a far superior chin than him.
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Parker will lose his WBO interim belt when the bell rings. Meaning one less mandatory for Usyk.
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Dubois is now calling out the winner of Fury vs Joshua.
A fight that hasn't even been made :doh:
This after jumping in the ring to piss on Uysk during his big moment, and call him out.
Where is this d*ckhead behavior coming from?
It isn't the quiet, respectful Daniel Dubios I've heard in interviews and in a documentary about his gym at the time.


Of course the elephant in the room is Joe Parker :lol:
A guy on a roll, training hard with a guy who is slowly transforming him into an incrementally better boxer on a fight by fight basis.
I don't know what Andy Lee's plan is, but I bet it is solid. And if you haven't seen pictures of Parker lately, he is bigger across the shoulders, biceps and upper back.
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DDD needs to focus hard on the job at hand. Parker is way too good to be overlooked. Good match.
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KiwiRider wrote: 19 Jan 2025, 16:18 Dubois is now calling out the winner of Fury vs Joshua.
A fight that hasn't even been made :doh:
This after jumping in the ring to piss on Uysk during his big moment, and call him out.
Where is this d*ckhead behavior coming from?
It isn't the quiet, respectful Daniel Dubios I've heard in interviews and in a documentary about his gym at the time.


Of course the elephant in the room is Joe Parker :lol:
A guy on a roll, training hard with a guy who is slowly transforming him into an incrementally better boxer on a fight by fight basis.
I don't know what Andy Lee's plan is, but I bet it is solid. And if you haven't seen pictures of Parker lately, he is bigger across the shoulders, biceps and upper back.
Parker’s got on a doping program these past couple of years with Doctor Uz. That’s why he’s massive. His upturn in form has coincided with him being named as a client of his.

All allegedly of course.
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This will be broadcast on Sky Sports Box Office
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This has come quite quick

We should be seeing more off this card now over the next weeks
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The undercard to beat all others :box:
Yes, really been looking forward to this fight as well.
Parker said a few days ago that Andy Lee hadn't gone over the game plan yet.
That might seem like leaving it late, but gyms always leak I guess.
Quite interested in how Parker goes about it, Dubois is way more dangerous than the two old blokes he just fought.
Whilst in New Zealand, Parker has been training at quite a hardcore gym, one of those fairly rudimentary sweatbox types with a good reputation for work ethic.
It's a big tin roofed warehouse type building that would have seen maybe 35°-38° maybe more during the last four weeks. It used to be my local a long time ago. So I am betting his conditioning is A1
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I'd be somewhat confident of Parker winning on his bike, but I think Dubois' underrated in the pocket and that seems to be this heavier Parker's preference.
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The High Performance podcast with Dubois is very good.
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DANIEL DUBOIS DOES NOT BELIEVE JOSEPH PARKER WILL BE A TOUGHER FIGHT THAN ANTHONY JOSHUA

Daniel Dubois knows that he has a real fight on his hands.

Becoming a world champion meant everything to him. But instead of milking said title with a tenuous defense, Dubois decided to take on Joseph Parker.

Only a few weeks remain before they officially get it on but Dubois believes he’s more than ready. Part of that stems from his preparation. But, in large part, the run he’s been on has him feeling as confident as ever.

Although wins over Jarrell Miller and Filip Hrgovic pushed him up The Ring’s rankings, grabbing a victory against Anthony Joshua left many believing that he’s the real deal.

Expected to lose, Dubois made it look incredibly easy against the former unified champ, stopping him in the fifth round. Parker, at least on paper, might be a stiffer test according to some but Dubois simply doesn’t believe that’s true.

“No,” said Dubois to Carl Frampton during a face-to-face with Parker when asked if Parker will be a tougher fight than Joshua. “I don’t think so.”

Dubois (22-1, 21 KOs) isn’t the only heavyweight riding an incredible wave at the moment. Parker has been scorching hot lately. Since suffering his first knockout loss against Joe Joyce in 2022, the former heavyweight champ reeled off five wins in a row.

Putting together five consecutive victories was impressive enough but doing so at the expense of Deontay Wilder and Zhilei Zhang has turned heads.

With everything clicking, Parker is convinced that he’s never been better. The goal for him is obvious. Beat Dubois convincingly and attempt to become an undisputed champion by knocking off Ring, WBA, WBC, and WBO champion, Oleksandr Usyk.

Everything that Parker has accomplished is cute but that doesn’t make him dangerous according to Parker. Has his run been impressive? It has. But will it help him on February 22nd? Dubois doesn’t believe so.

“He’s been on form but I think I’ll go through him.”
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The more Dubois talks.. the more I lean towards Parker.

I mean I already want Parker to win anyway and it’s. It gonna be easy.

Dubois doesn’t make himself likable at times.

He’s looked past Parker from day 1.
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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 09 Feb 2025, 16:59 The more Dubois talks.. the more I lean towards Parker.

I mean I already want Parker to win anyway and it’s. It gonna be easy.

Dubois doesn’t make himself likable at times.

He’s looked past Parker from day 1.
I understand what you mean, it's like Lenny from Mice and Men getting confident and cocky.
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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 09 Feb 2025, 16:56 DANIEL DUBOIS DOES NOT BELIEVE JOSEPH PARKER WILL BE A TOUGHER FIGHT THAN ANTHONY JOSHUA

Daniel Dubois knows that he has a real fight on his hands.

Becoming a world champion meant everything to him. But instead of milking said title with a tenuous defense, Dubois decided to take on Joseph Parker.

Only a few weeks remain before they officially get it on but Dubois believes he’s more than ready. Part of that stems from his preparation. But, in large part, the run he’s been on has him feeling as confident as ever.

Although wins over Jarrell Miller and Filip Hrgovic pushed him up The Ring’s rankings, grabbing a victory against Anthony Joshua left many believing that he’s the real deal.

Expected to lose, Dubois made it look incredibly easy against the former unified champ, stopping him in the fifth round. Parker, at least on paper, might be a stiffer test according to some but Dubois simply doesn’t believe that’s true.

“No,” said Dubois to Carl Frampton during a face-to-face with Parker when asked if Parker will be a tougher fight than Joshua. “I don’t think so.”

Dubois (22-1, 21 KOs) isn’t the only heavyweight riding an incredible wave at the moment. Parker has been scorching hot lately. Since suffering his first knockout loss against Joe Joyce in 2022, the former heavyweight champ reeled off five wins in a row.

Putting together five consecutive victories was impressive enough but doing so at the expense of Deontay Wilder and Zhilei Zhang has turned heads.

With everything clicking, Parker is convinced that he’s never been better. The goal for him is obvious. Beat Dubois convincingly and attempt to become an undisputed champion by knocking off Ring, WBA, WBC, and WBO champion, Oleksandr Usyk.

Everything that Parker has accomplished is cute but that doesn’t make him dangerous according to Parker. Has his run been impressive? It has. But will it help him on February 22nd? Dubois doesn’t believe so.

“He’s been on form but I think I’ll go through him.”
Dubois is 22-2. Awful journalism.
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Boxerbeetle wrote: 09 Feb 2025, 19:43
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 09 Feb 2025, 16:56 DANIEL DUBOIS DOES NOT BELIEVE JOSEPH PARKER WILL BE A TOUGHER FIGHT THAN ANTHONY JOSHUA

Daniel Dubois knows that he has a real fight on his hands.

Becoming a world champion meant everything to him. But instead of milking said title with a tenuous defense, Dubois decided to take on Joseph Parker.

Only a few weeks remain before they officially get it on but Dubois believes he’s more than ready. Part of that stems from his preparation. But, in large part, the run he’s been on has him feeling as confident as ever.

Although wins over Jarrell Miller and Filip Hrgovic pushed him up The Ring’s rankings, grabbing a victory against Anthony Joshua left many believing that he’s the real deal.

Expected to lose, Dubois made it look incredibly easy against the former unified champ, stopping him in the fifth round. Parker, at least on paper, might be a stiffer test according to some but Dubois simply doesn’t believe that’s true.

“No,” said Dubois to Carl Frampton during a face-to-face with Parker when asked if Parker will be a tougher fight than Joshua. “I don’t think so.”

Dubois (22-1, 21 KOs) isn’t the only heavyweight riding an incredible wave at the moment. Parker has been scorching hot lately. Since suffering his first knockout loss against Joe Joyce in 2022, the former heavyweight champ reeled off five wins in a row.

Putting together five consecutive victories was impressive enough but doing so at the expense of Deontay Wilder and Zhilei Zhang has turned heads.

With everything clicking, Parker is convinced that he’s never been better. The goal for him is obvious. Beat Dubois convincingly and attempt to become an undisputed champion by knocking off Ring, WBA, WBC, and WBO champion, Oleksandr Usyk.

Everything that Parker has accomplished is cute but that doesn’t make him dangerous according to Parker. Has his run been impressive? It has. But will it help him on February 22nd? Dubois doesn’t believe so.

“He’s been on form but I think I’ll go through him.”
Dubois is 22-2. Awful journalism.
Is The Ring journalism, or is it propaganda?
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