Round-by-Round: Derek Chisora vs. Otto Wallin | TNT Sports - 8 February 2025

[mickey1975]

Ironically the bkfc has become a bore fest which is rare, just waiting for Joe Lister to fight the son of our old gym owner IFBB pro Gary Lister. Was a good amateur boxer got a full page in Boxing News couple of years back for his war in the Haringey cup, did an MMA fight and now making his BKFC debut tonight on Dazn in Newcastle

Joe travelled here to box for Legions for a season. I saw him lose a fight of the year to a kid from Bridlington.

that's great Mickey. Joe won first round last night, really good body puncher, suffered a bad eye injury that will keep him out for a while but he was really impressive. I then proceeded to fall asleep half way through the Chisora fight (not because it was boring) so rewatched it this morning.

I watched it. My friend was in the corner.

[cormack]

Chisora is now mandatory for a world title, imagine the odds you could have got on that 2 years ago

I think this was an eliminator for a final eliminator.

There was ‘talks’ of his final fight being against Usyk in Saudi.

ah, that stuff always throws/confuses me. They should just say "next in line(ish/possibly)"

it was all a bit cringey frankly especially del boy beggin the crowd not to leave LOL
And as for the pickem from usyk / aj or dubois for his 50th fight that was total panto

give him someone like whyte or okolie to bow out with

[Ruthless-RKO]

Yh let him
Go out on a win.

[mickey1975]

I think the Wallin performance was so bad people should be asking questions.

[Ruthless-RKO]

I think the Wallin performance was so bad people should be asking questions.

Never rated him.

Thought he’d go on to some decent wins after he beat Granat..

But he just fought lower fringe level guys.

Then lucky he got the Fury fight, which for some reason increased his stock. When in fact, he was outlclassed in that too.

Even after that, he just waited to another big payday.

[mickey1975]

I think the Wallin performance was so bad people should be asking questions.

Never rated him.

Thought he’d go on to some decent wins after he beat Granat..

But he just fought lower fringe level guys.

Then lucky he got the Fury fight, which for some reason increased his stock. When in fact, he was outlclassed in that too.

Even after that, he just waited to another big payday.

I never rated him either but he wasn't even trying last night.

[skanksta]

I think the Wallin performance was so bad people should be asking questions.

Never rated him.

Thought he’d go on to some decent wins after he beat Granat..

But he just fought lower fringe level guys.

Then lucky he got the Fury fight, which for some reason increased his stock. When in fact, he was outlclassed in that too.

Even after that, he just waited to another big payday.

I never rated him either but he wasn't even trying last night.

You chaps suggesting something..?
I agree Wallin was carp, but I'm sure it's just that DelBoy rolled back the years and Wallin was never that good anyway..

[mickey1975]

Never rated him.

Thought he’d go on to some decent wins after he beat Granat..

But he just fought lower fringe level guys.

Then lucky he got the Fury fight, which for some reason increased his stock. When in fact, he was outlclassed in that too.

Even after that, he just waited to another big payday.

I never rated him either but he wasn't even trying last night.

You chaps suggesting something..?
I agree Wallin was carp, but I'm sure it's just that DelBoy rolled back the years and Wallin was never that good anyway..

He didn't, though. Del looked terrible as well. Having those photos ready, the ridiculous commentary etc...

[rd350lc]

I think the Wallin performance was so bad people should be asking questions.

Same against Joshua, absolutely no desire , very odd .
Backing up when Chisora was out on his feet .

[SeanBrennan]

Joe travelled here to box for Legions for a season. I saw him lose a fight of the year to a kid from Bridlington.

that's great Mickey. Joe won first round last night, really good body puncher, suffered a bad eye injury that will keep him out for a while but he was really impressive. I then proceeded to fall asleep half way through the Chisora fight (not because it was boring) so rewatched it this morning.

I watched it. My friend was in the corner.

ah brilliant, do you think Joe can go far?

[SeanBrennan]

I think this was an eliminator for a final eliminator.

There was ‘talks’ of his final fight being against Usyk in Saudi.

ah, that stuff always throws/confuses me. They should just say "next in line(ish/possibly)"

it was all a bit cringey frankly especially del boy beggin the crowd not to leave LOL
And as for the pickem from usyk / aj or dubois for his 50th fight that was total panto

give him someone like whyte or okolie to bow out with

Whyte be better suited for Chisoria I think - I think Okolie will end up a very good HW especially with his Dhalsim/Mr Tickle reach. The random rappers and photo thing was odd I fast forwarded that as it was embarrassing.

[mickey1975]

that's great Mickey. Joe won first round last night, really good body puncher, suffered a bad eye injury that will keep him out for a while but he was really impressive. I then proceeded to fall asleep half way through the Chisora fight (not because it was boring) so rewatched it this morning.

I watched it. My friend was in the corner.

ah brilliant, do you think Joe can go far?

I don't know. I don't really follow it but know a few involved, It's getting bigger. Lister is only young and I'd have liked him to carry on gloved. He was a good open class boxer. God knows what weight he'd be if he stripped down, I'd imagine his dad has had him weight training all his life, Dubois style.

[mickey1975]

I think the Wallin performance was so bad people should be asking questions.

Same against Joshua, absolutely no desire , very odd .
Backing up when Chisora was out on his feet .

And it was a strange choice of opponent. Going into the fight most observers thought Wallin would win comfortably. He was 4/9 with the bookies. Why did he get selected so quickly after Big Baby pulled out?

[THEBUTCH]

Chisora and Wallin were both poor, especially Wallin. Chisora loves a slugging match and can still have his moments but he's squeezing every last drop he can get out of boxing.

What is going on with this talk of Whyte v Chisora again Whyte's beaten him twice and both are deteriorating.

I've got an even better idea...how about Fury v Chisora 4 We can all waste our time watching Tyson thrash Derek even easier than the last 3 times

[KiwiRider]

Del Boy wins if he fights Whyte again. Whyte can't hold a shot and Chisora is still firing them and can take a shot himself.
I really don't want to see it though.

[CaptainSpacerod]

Chisora and Wallin were both poor, especially Wallin. Chisora loves a slugging match and can still have his moments but he's squeezing every last drop he can get out of boxing.

What is going on with this talk of Whyte v Chisora again Whyte's beaten him twice and both are deteriorating.

I've got an even better idea...how about Fury v Chisora 4 We can all waste our time watching Tyson thrash Derek even easier than the last 3 times

Never underestimate the gullibility of the general public

If Del v Fury or Del v Whyte were made it may well cause groans of dismay from serious boxing fans but both fights would be very popular with casuals, possibly selling out arenas

[TheLeprechaun]

Appalling stuff from Wallin. It's hard to put into words how poor this heavyweight division is, yet its a very overrated era. I'd have Gerry Cooney mauling all of them.

[Ruthless-RKO]

Now he’s saying he might have his 50th in London

[THEBUTCH]

You're absolutely right CaptainSpacerod !

Thank God the Beterbiev v Bivol rematch is coming up A highly anticipated re-run of the highest calibre, not recycled shite like Yarde v Arthur 3

[skanksta]

I'm not so down on Yarde Arthur 3..?
It's 1-1, first two fights were ok.

[rd350lc]

Chisora and Wallin were both poor, especially Wallin. Chisora loves a slugging match and can still have his moments but he's squeezing every last drop he can get out of boxing.

What is going on with this talk of Whyte v Chisora again Whyte's beaten him twice and both are deteriorating.

I've got an even better idea...how about Fury v Chisora 4 We can all waste our time watching Tyson thrash Derek even easier than the last 3 times

Never underestimate the gullibility of the general public

If Del v Fury or Del v Whyte were made it may well cause groans of dismay from serious boxing fans but both fights would be very popular with casuals, possibly selling out arenas

I dunno , think that ship has sailed.
The heavyweight scene desperately needs some good young fresh prospects .

[SeanBrennan]

I watched it. My friend was in the corner.

ah brilliant, do you think Joe can go far?

I don't know. I don't really follow it but know a few involved, It's getting bigger. Lister is only young and I'd have liked him to carry on gloved. He was a good open class boxer. God knows what weight he'd be if he stripped down, I'd imagine his dad has had him weight training all his life, Dubois style.

My thoughts are the same as yours re sticking with boxing, always find it a bit of a waste to switch too early to BK (unless the money is crazy but I've no idea there). He boxed lighter as an am iirc by quite a bit, he's about 30lbs heavier now I think. I don't think Gary was a Dubois-type with his lads, him and Warren his other lad were left to plough their own furrow I think. His Pa Gary owned the gym I trained at in Gainsborough when I started training aged 15 (been training there 25 years now, Gary has long since set up a gym in Harworth). He has some bloody good genetics on him, his Ma Collean was a brilliant bodybuilder too, so he was also going to be thick set. I don't know of any that have moved BK back to boxing and he is so young so I suspect the gloved door is likely closed. He's only 20 though.

[CaptainSpacerod]

I dunno , think that ship has sailed.
The heavyweight scene desperately needs some good young fresh prospects .

We’ve got Itauma, Adeleye, Wardley, Dubois who are young or certainly young by HW standards. I’d rather see hungry young guys like these fight the old has beens like Chisora and Joyce and Whyte

Dubois v Joyce would sell well.

Who wouldn’t wanna see mega talented Itauma box recidivist drug cheat Whyte’s head off

Wardley v Chisora could see Del passing his warrior crown onto a younger version of himself

[stujones]

Why not a rubber trilogy fight with Pulev for a version of the world title - he can sail off into the sunset with a possible chance for a world title. I'm being deadly serious here.

As much as I think Derek is no longer a "gate keeper" after the Parker rematch loss (where he loss handily) - I think "on paper". His run of Pulev, Fury (loss), Washington, Joyce, and Wallin - probably puts him back into the top 10, which says more about the division than it says about his form - its not far off Joshua's run of Franklin, Ngannou and Wallin where people were screaming "he's back" and back a threat to Fury etc - so while I am not going to personally like it, and unlike the 3rd fight with Fury where his run was Decisive Loss (Usyk), Close Loss (Parker), Decisive Loss (Parker 2), Close Win (Pulev) he is probably now more deserving of a title fight.

If Dubios beats Parker - a victory over 41 year old Chisora (on the back of 1 very good and 2 decent wins "on paper") would still be Dubios third best win in his career - so while I don't want to see it, I'm not going to say its ridiculous match making.

I'd don't want to see Chisora in a "blockbuster" with nothing to gain other the finances - so no Joshua, Fury etc. Usyk - no that's not needed....been there and he only won 2 rounds for me and one has improved and the other has deteriorated, so I hope he goes for Pulev for the WBA belt or maybe (but I don't want to see it personally) Dubios for the IBF belt.

Its not a mark of me thinking he has improved or anything, I geniunely now am struggling to have 10 heavyweights ahead of Chisora now - and I don't think I have ever had Chisora in the top 10 before.

Usyk, Dubios, Parker, Zhang, Joshua, Kaybayal - I think are the only heavies that sit comfortably with me as being ahead of Chisora on a pure rankings front. I think Wardley, Itauma, Hunter, Okolie, Hughie Fury, Fraser Clarke and Bakole beat him - but they do not have a W of some of Joyce' standing on the recent resume.

[mickey1975]

I think the Usyk fight makes sense for Derek if only because so many people had the first fight very close.