Joseph Parker vs. Martin Bakole | PPV - 22 February 2025

Who wins?

Poll ended at 22 Feb 2025, 15:28

Parker - Decision
17
41%
Parker - T/KO
7
17%
DRAW
1
2%
Bakole - T/KO
14
34%
Bakole - Decision
2
5%
 
Total votes: 41

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Re: Joseph Parker vs. Martin Bakole | PPV - 22 February 2025

Post by gregregegg »

gilgamesh wrote: 22 Feb 2025, 20:36
rd350lc wrote: 22 Feb 2025, 19:01 I think Bakole will go down the Andy Ruiz route and never be truly fit again .

Might pull off some lower level wins but I think done anywhere near the top .
Hey if not Bakole vs Zhang. Battle of the Giants

We could do Bakole vs Ruiz. Battle of the Fatsos :lol:
Or bakole vs big baby miller.... a sneaky 600 lber.... (personally I think Bakole vs Zhang is the best option though)...
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Re: Joseph Parker vs. Martin Bakole | PPV - 22 February 2025

Post by Jimmy2025 »

Those fast-ball overhand rights Parker throws are hard to see and very meaty punches from a 120kg man.

Parker vs Kabayal would be an epically good fight.
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Re: Joseph Parker vs. Martin Bakole | PPV - 22 February 2025

Post by The Gratest »

gregregegg wrote: 22 Feb 2025, 20:42
gilgamesh wrote: 22 Feb 2025, 20:36
rd350lc wrote: 22 Feb 2025, 19:01 I think Bakole will go down the Andy Ruiz route and never be truly fit again .

Might pull off some lower level wins but I think done anywhere near the top .
Hey if not Bakole vs Zhang. Battle of the Giants

We could do Bakole vs Ruiz. Battle of the Fatsos :lol:
Or bakole vs big baby miller.... a sneaky 600 lber.... (personally I think Bakole vs Zhang is the best option though)...
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Re: Joseph Parker vs. Martin Bakole | PPV - 22 February 2025

Post by DrDuke »

Nice kayo by Joe and Bakole was too fat to fall normally.
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Re: Joseph Parker vs. Martin Bakole | PPV - 22 February 2025

Post by big lennox »

Felt sorry for Bakole. Hopefully, it was life changing money for him. A good stoppage by Billy Nelson.

I am enjoying this post Fury era already. If it had been Fury scheduled to box Dubois, he would have called Dubois a sh*thouse and a sausage for pulling out and probably said Bakole didn't have enough fans to justify stepping in to box him.

Parker, like Uysk, AJ, Dubois, Zhang and Kabayel will go in with anyone, and carries himself with such grace. It's really refreshing.
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Re: Joseph Parker vs. Martin Bakole | PPV - 22 February 2025

Post by handsofstone »

Billy Nelson should be ashamed of himself, he's spent the last however many years bombarding everyone about how Bakole beats everyone, constantly belittling opponents, bringing up sparring stories, Bakole KO'd Usyk, Fury, Dubois Joshua, the list goes on, nobody can tweet about heavyweight boxing without Nelson piping up Bakole beats them, its relentless , we all seen Bakole take a beating from Hunter and Billy keep on sending him out when he wanted out, since that night Billy has insisted Bakole wasn't right and there were issues going on that nobody understands, he shouldn't have been there blah blah blah, well Billy you've gone and done the same again, it was clear Bakole shouldn't have fought and you knew that hence the reason you pulled him after 1 knockdown, well Billy you've fcked him again and embarrassed yourself the last few years bringing up sparring etc, pipe down
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Re: Joseph Parker vs. Martin Bakole | PPV - 22 February 2025

Post by cormack »

so the beast from africa that the entire HW is avoiding isnt actually all that .

Ok give some credit as he was clearly not in any camp but put up almost no resistance .
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Re: Joseph Parker vs. Martin Bakole | PPV - 22 February 2025

Post by Controversial »

I think we all get played with fighters, trainers and promotors. At the end of the day they want money and will often say and do anything to get it. Legacy seems to mean little, as fans I think we read more into it than fighters do. Fury a good example. But can you blame them, it’s a tough sport so they want as much money as possible. Kind of reminds me of footballers, the fans are often fanatical but most footballers would jump ship if they are offered a load of money to play at another club.
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Re: Joseph Parker vs. Martin Bakole | PPV - 22 February 2025

Post by TBA »

Did the fight tell us much other than that fight on the top buzzed Bakole and he was in no shape to go further into the trenches.

He looked decent in the short time otherwise. But you can't be hands down against this type of quality.

Crowd loved the way he shook off that flush shop prior though. Turki will give him another fight off of that and see what he can do at 100%.

Just don't make it Kabayel. Bakole will want none of that body punching. Not many HWs will.
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Re: Joseph Parker vs. Martin Bakole | PPV - 22 February 2025

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As I said before this fight shouldn't have been sanctioned and was just a farce
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Re: Joseph Parker vs. Martin Bakole | PPV - 22 February 2025

Post by golden_labrador »

stevec@france wrote: 23 Feb 2025, 07:05 so the beast from africa that the entire HW is avoiding isnt actually all that .

Ok give some credit as he was clearly not in any camp but put up almost no resistance .
well, it wasn't sparring was it?

being serious though, if he hadn't been clocked on top of his head, how would it have gone?
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Re: Joseph Parker vs. Martin Bakole | PPV - 22 February 2025

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golden_labrador wrote: 23 Feb 2025, 07:47
stevec@france wrote: 23 Feb 2025, 07:05 so the beast from africa that the entire HW is avoiding isnt actually all that .

Ok give some credit as he was clearly not in any camp but put up almost no resistance .
well, it wasn't sparring was it?

being serious though, if he hadn't been clocked on top of his head, how would it have gone?
Doesn't look to have world class punch resistance

It was only the second round

Parker isn't a banger

It's not like he was caught by the DDD punch that took out AJ
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Re: Joseph Parker vs. Martin Bakole | PPV - 22 February 2025

Post by Boxerbeetle »

I'd still like to see Bakole in a big matchup with a full training camp. Don’t think he's amazing by any stretch, but certainly a lot better than he looked last night and with the power to cause an upset, plus he's quite entertaining to watch if you enjoy sluggers, as I do.
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Re: Joseph Parker vs. Martin Bakole | PPV - 22 February 2025

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Coco wrote: 23 Feb 2025, 07:53
golden_labrador wrote: 23 Feb 2025, 07:47
stevec@france wrote: 23 Feb 2025, 07:05 so the beast from africa that the entire HW is avoiding isnt actually all that .

Ok give some credit as he was clearly not in any camp but put up almost no resistance .
well, it wasn't sparring was it?

being serious though, if he hadn't been clocked on top of his head, how would it have gone?
Doesn't look to have world class punch resistance

It was only the second round

Parker isn't a banger

It's not like he was caught by the DDD punch that took out AJ
Which is why we need to see him with a proper camp and preparation.

I'm trying to put myself into his shoes. Just flown 13+ hours UK to Congo a few days ago. Not training in Congo, getting the call for the fight, flying to Saudi via Ethiopia with a layover, only landing on the early hours of fight night.

fornicate that, would be drained as F.

Add to that Parker looked solid as anything. Think juiced Povetkin versus non juiced Povetkin.

Hindsight and all that but was a recipe for disaster.

It's not as if the punch put him out, it's just that it completely scrambled his equilibrium which was probably down to all of the above meshing together. Dissapointing, but good decision to pull him out and realise you made a bad decision.

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About Parker, excellent run but Kabayel has put it in perspective a bit. Parker bobbed in and out to best Wilder and Zhang. Zhang then destroyed Wilder, and then Zhang get's the fight taken to him and destroyed by Kabayel.
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Re: Joseph Parker vs. Martin Bakole | PPV - 22 February 2025

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TBA wrote: 23 Feb 2025, 08:10
Coco wrote: 23 Feb 2025, 07:53
golden_labrador wrote: 23 Feb 2025, 07:47

well, it wasn't sparring was it?

being serious though, if he hadn't been clocked on top of his head, how would it have gone?
Doesn't look to have world class punch resistance

It was only the second round

Parker isn't a banger

It's not like he was caught by the DDD punch that took out AJ
Which is why we need to see him with a proper camp and preparation.

I'm trying to put myself into his shoes. Just flown 13+ hours UK to Congo a few days ago. Not training in Congo, getting the call for the fight, flying to Saudi via Ethiopia with a layover, only landing on the early hours of fight night.

fornicate that, would be drained as F.

Add to that Parker looked solid as anything. Think juiced Povetkin versus non juiced Povetkin.

Hindsight and all that but was a recipe for disaster.

It's not as if the punch put him out, it's just that it completely scrambled his equilibrium which was probably down to all of the above meshing together.
Obv a short notice job, but it's unfair to suggest that it was a freak punch, for me it demonstrates that Bakole isn't at the top level.
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Re: Joseph Parker vs. Martin Bakole | PPV - 22 February 2025

Post by gregregegg »

Those top of head punches are the weirdest. especialy the glancing ones that are inside out (I don't quite know how to describe this but when the hook is looping right to left and it glances there head left to right... )

They are rare enough that its hard to know, but then they happen it often appears very very odd.... Like bakole too a bomb clean no drama earlier in the fight, but this skimming shot had him in 12 margaritas deep on a wobbly boat.

I don't read too much into these types of KOs, and would not be saying bakole is chinny just yet.... obviously full credit to parker, but there's a lot of luck involved in boxing, even if you do create your own luck...
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Re: Joseph Parker vs. Martin Bakole | PPV - 22 February 2025

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Coco wrote: 23 Feb 2025, 08:13
TBA wrote: 23 Feb 2025, 08:10
Coco wrote: 23 Feb 2025, 07:53

Doesn't look to have world class punch resistance

It was only the second round

Parker isn't a banger

It's not like he was caught by the DDD punch that took out AJ
Which is why we need to see him with a proper camp and preparation.

I'm trying to put myself into his shoes. Just flown 13+ hours UK to Congo a few days ago. Not training in Congo, getting the call for the fight, flying to Saudi via Ethiopia with a layover, only landing on the early hours of fight night.

fornicate that, would be drained as F.

Add to that Parker looked solid as anything. Think juiced Povetkin versus non juiced Povetkin.

Hindsight and all that but was a recipe for disaster.

It's not as if the punch put him out, it's just that it completely scrambled his equilibrium which was probably down to all of the above meshing together.
Obv a short notice job, but it's unfair to suggest that it was a freak punch, for me it demonstrates that Bakole isn't at the top level.
I reckon the flush shot he took 10-20 seconds further had more effect than he let on, and then that blast on the top of the noggin completely racked his senses.

You just can't take those shots untrained, fatigued and under-rested. Fair play to Parker but punch resistance can't be there after the week Bakole has had travel wise. IMO.
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Re: Joseph Parker vs. Martin Bakole | PPV - 22 February 2025

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TBA wrote: 23 Feb 2025, 08:17
Coco wrote: 23 Feb 2025, 08:13
TBA wrote: 23 Feb 2025, 08:10

Which is why we need to see him with a proper camp and preparation.

I'm trying to put myself into his shoes. Just flown 13+ hours UK to Congo a few days ago. Not training in Congo, getting the call for the fight, flying to Saudi via Ethiopia with a layover, only landing on the early hours of fight night.

fornicate that, would be drained as F.

Add to that Parker looked solid as anything. Think juiced Povetkin versus non juiced Povetkin.

Hindsight and all that but was a recipe for disaster.

It's not as if the punch put him out, it's just that it completely scrambled his equilibrium which was probably down to all of the above meshing together.
Obv a short notice job, but it's unfair to suggest that it was a freak punch, for me it demonstrates that Bakole isn't at the top level.
I reckon the flush shot he took 10-20 seconds further had more effect than he let on, and then that blast on the top of the noggin completely racked his senses.

You just can't take those shots untrained, fatigued and under-rested. Fair play to Parker but punch resistance can't be there after the week Bakole has had travel wise. IMO.
I disagree, chin is chin

Different story if you are knackered! But early on in the fight your chin should hold up

Unless the bulked up Parker is carrying some extra power!!
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Re: Joseph Parker vs. Martin Bakole | PPV - 22 February 2025

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I’d still like to see Bakole-Efe
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Re: Joseph Parker vs. Martin Bakole | PPV - 22 February 2025

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Coco wrote: 23 Feb 2025, 08:13
TBA wrote: 23 Feb 2025, 08:10
Coco wrote: 23 Feb 2025, 07:53

Doesn't look to have world class punch resistance

It was only the second round

Parker isn't a banger

It's not like he was caught by the DDD punch that took out AJ
Which is why we need to see him with a proper camp and preparation.

I'm trying to put myself into his shoes. Just flown 13+ hours UK to Congo a few days ago. Not training in Congo, getting the call for the fight, flying to Saudi via Ethiopia with a layover, only landing on the early hours of fight night.

fornicate that, would be drained as F.

Add to that Parker looked solid as anything. Think juiced Povetkin versus non juiced Povetkin.

Hindsight and all that but was a recipe for disaster.

It's not as if the punch put him out, it's just that it completely scrambled his equilibrium which was probably down to all of the above meshing together.
Obv a short notice job, but it's unfair to suggest that it was a freak punch, for me it demonstrates that Bakole isn't at the top level.
just a thought - was that looping right hand bomb in the game plan for DD but they just gave it to Bakole instead - he seemed to throw it very instinctively .
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Re: Joseph Parker vs. Martin Bakole | PPV - 22 February 2025

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Coco wrote: 23 Feb 2025, 08:32 Unless the bulked up Parker is carrying some extra power!!
I think he will be carrying more grunt. His weight gain is quality size and that right he was throwing was being delivered with plenty of leverage. Parker 2.0 looks a scary dude. Him v Kabayal would be a good scrap. Both make mistakes and get stuck in.
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Re: Joseph Parker vs. Martin Bakole | PPV - 22 February 2025

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it would be difficult for Bakole's stock to fall any more drastically than it did in his showing vs Parker.

he had a bit of momentum on his side, after stopping Anderson. and could have used it. rather than getting out of shape like this.
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Re: Joseph Parker vs. Martin Bakole | PPV - 22 February 2025

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Autobarn wrote: 23 Feb 2025, 10:53 it would be difficult for Bakole's stock to fall any more drastically than it did in his showing vs Parker.

he had a bit of momentum on his side, after stopping Anderson. and could have used it. rather than getting out of shape like this.
The gamble probably went something like "Get a foot in the door, grab the cash and lose a one sided decision, Parker isn't a big hitter, we might even score a KO ourselves"

I don't think anyone at all expected him to be humiliatingly dismantled in the way that he was.

He can rehab with some big KO wins of his own, but damage has still been done. Casual viewers don't know the backstory, all they know is they've just seen a waddling fatman taken out in two rounds.
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Re: Joseph Parker vs. Martin Bakole | PPV - 22 February 2025

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johninmanchester wrote: 23 Feb 2025, 11:16
Autobarn wrote: 23 Feb 2025, 10:53 it would be difficult for Bakole's stock to fall any more drastically than it did in his showing vs Parker.

he had a bit of momentum on his side, after stopping Anderson. and could have used it. rather than getting out of shape like this.
The gamble probably went something like "Get a foot in the door, grab the cash and lose a one sided decision, Parker isn't a big hitter, we might even score a KO ourselves"

I don't think anyone at all expected him to be humiliatingly dismantled in the way that he was.

He can rehab with some big KO wins of his own, but damage has still been done. Casual viewers don't know the backstory, all they know is they've just seen a waddling fatman taken out in two rounds.
Yep. If Turki promised him another fight as a thank you for stepping in late, he could match him up against any of Joshua, Zhang, Pulev, Ajagba, Wardley or Hrgovic. All winnable by KO
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Re: Joseph Parker vs. Martin Bakole | PPV - 22 February 2025

Post by TBA »

You would think guys like Joshua and even Efe will think they can just bomb straight through him now. The aura is gone.

But hey, Parker came back from being swatted by Joyce. All it takes is a few wins.
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