P4P is a pretty subjective type of rating.
I'm wondering If anyone ever considers anything other than weight?
Me personally I pay quite a bit of attention to one's height as far as welterweight/middleweight's go...and height does matter.
Is height a factor for anyone? As pound per pound the statement you would think will directly correlate into power/ability per square inch (height)
What are some factors besides weight you might consider personally.
Does anyone ever count Height in P4P rating?
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Benny The Kid
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margaret thatcher
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Re: Does anyone ever count Height in P4P rating?
i dont consider it, i think height is much more variable than natural weight when it comes to being an advantage. you have to have skills to make a height advantage count, and there are some situations where being shorter can be used effictevely. where as id say being naturally bigger as in weight is pretty much always an advantage (barring some extremes) and doesnt require any particularly skillful approach to make it impact the fight. it is much more of a determining factor.
if you're a 6 foot middleweight contender and your goal is to win, would you rather fight a 6'2 middleweight like andy lee or a 5'10 heavyweight like tyson/tua? actually id say lee and tua werent miles apart on their levels within their divisions, but can anyone say that a head to head would be something other than a tua massacre win if they fought.
if you're a 6 foot middleweight contender and your goal is to win, would you rather fight a 6'2 middleweight like andy lee or a 5'10 heavyweight like tyson/tua? actually id say lee and tua werent miles apart on their levels within their divisions, but can anyone say that a head to head would be something other than a tua massacre win if they fought.
Re: Does anyone ever count Height in P4P rating?
At the weights that Benny mentioned, welter and middle, height is a definite factor and advantage. But, only if the fighter learns how to make use of it. Footwork is a big part of that naturally. I think the tall fighter of course needs a good jab , but needs to be able to throw it moving laterally to either side. Can’t just rely on the jab moving only one direction or just in and out. A taller fighter, say a 6-2 middleweight who can also bang, and it’s amazing how hard guys at that weight can punch, as well as box side to side and you have something to work with. Lot more to it of course…
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Ambling Alp II
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Re: Does anyone ever count Height in P4P rating?
Pretty much agree with that. You can't count height. Just count what the guy actually did.