Muhammad Ali (Liston 1) vs Tyson Fury (Usyk 1)

[keithmoonhangover]

15 rounds. Who ya got.

[DrDuke]

Ali outboxes Fury similarly to how Usyk did.

[keithmoonhangover]

I await elmer telling me Ali was too small.

[scorpio83]

I await elmer telling me Ali was too small.

Ali would outbox Fury to take a decision and yes, with all due respect elmer would troll Ali by downgrading his iconic heavyweight legacy in bias favor for the overrated modern ex-heavyweight champion.

[elmersalsa]

No no no. Muhammad Ali had the perfect weight (220lbs) and height (6'3") to beat today's heavyweights. So does George Foreman, Lennox Lewis, the Klitschkos Brothers and Larry Holmes. Now, that's talent.

Joe Louis had the talent, but, his chin was his downfall. Plus, he would be too small for today's heavyweights.

Ali had tremendous foot and hand speed. Joe Louis had tremendous combinations, but his foot speed and chin wasn't better than Ali's.

[scorpio83]

No no no. Muhammad Ali had the perfect weight (220lbs) and height (6'3") to beat today's heavyweights. So does George Foreman, Lennox Lewis, the Klitschkos Brothers and Larry Holmes. Now, that's talent.

Joe Louis had the talent, but, his chin was his downfall. Plus, he would be too small for today's heavyweights.

Ali had tremendous foot and hand speed. Joe Louis had tremendous combinations, but his foot speed and chin wasn't better than Ali's.

At least you acknowledged Ali's aura of his heavyweight legacy, but first of all, you should know that Louis weighed in heavier at 210 to 215 lbs at the end of his reign as World Heavyweight Champion the same weight that Ali first won his World Heavyweight Title against Sonny Liston in their first fight. Second, Louis's chin wasn't his downfall that he survived several knockdowns in each fight to retained his title 25 times. Louis was big enough at 210 or over which would be the same weight as Evander Holyfield in his early fights as a heavyweight after unifying the cruiserweight titles. Third, Louis' chin was in the level with Wlad, who also managed to survive the two knockdowns against Samuel Peters in their first fight. We agreed about Ali, but the heavyweight legacy of Joe Louis was another matter we would debate about as he had talent as Ali had and so did other heavyweight champions from the past before this era.

[gilgamesh]

I'd favor Ali by UD over Fury in an interesting fight.

[Ambling Alp II]

It would be interesting because Ali was great to watch. Ali would totally out class him. He would hit be landing combinations Fury over and over. fury would be unable to land much at all. Hard to imagine the fat slob lasting 15 rounds. If he does, it's a very lopsided decision. More like a stoppage.

[gilgamesh]

Can you imagine the insane level of sh*t talking, and pre-fight hype we'd get with these 2 going at it? It'd be one of the most insane buildups in the media ever.