Joe Louis vs Tyson Fury (Peak vs Peak)

keithmoonhangover
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Re: Joe Louis vs Tyson Fury (Peak vs Peak)

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Cojimar 1946 wrote: 30 Mar 2025, 12:32
Ambling Alp II wrote: 29 Mar 2025, 17:51
elmersalsa wrote: 29 Mar 2025, 17:24
:lol: :lol: :lol: this post is laughable. It goes way beyond logic.
Logic really isn't your thing.
Please do tell. Which of these guys hit harder than Galento?
Galento was lacking in technique and unathletic with short arms. I wouldn't expect him to be able to land effectively against a mobile opponent with good defense in the first place.
Have you ever been punched? Have you sparred a lot of people? Have you had a few fist fights?
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Re: Joe Louis vs Tyson Fury (Peak vs Peak)

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scorpio83 wrote: 23 Mar 2025, 12:37 I'm with Ambling Alp II and keithmoonhangover there. I believe Tyson Fury's wins over the aging Wlad and the trilogy fight with Wilder were good, but overrated as he beat an aging Wlad like I said before and Fury faced that Wlad who didn't have Manny Steward who passed away 3 years prior to their bout. Maybe people who think Fury would beat the peak Joe Louis is because they like big men like Fury and saying like size matters this and that, but half of the time size doesn't matter. Look at Fury's two fights with Usyk who outbox and outpunch him as he was the only one who beat Fury twice. What makes them think that the Tyson Fury who lost twice to the smaller Usyk, who was heavy enough would beat a prime Joe Louis? If they say Fury beat Louis when they were at the peak, no problem because if there was the rematch or a trilogy, the peak Joe Louis would win 2-1 against the peak Fury because they forgot that Louis was prepare and deadlier in rematches. I love big men as those guys, but sometimes, I acknowledge that most smaller fighters in the heavyweight champion had more heart to be as good or great in history. Even Holyfield from his early career as a heavyweight was the same size as Louis as they could use their speed and power against bigger man as like Holyfield beat the 42-year old comeback George Foreman (RIP). If Holyfield could beat Foreman (RIP), then Louis would use his speed and power against Furry by slipping through Fury's long arms by landing bombs on the inside and moving away on the outside to slow Fury down until the later rounds that Fury had nothing left and Louis would either keep landing speedy powerpunches to take a decision or stopping him late in 14 or 15 rounds in his era.

Bro he actually won some cards. He was a right there. Using the USYK theory that he can't compete when he's actually winning rounds is really really biased. Hanging everything on a win or lost is rather irrelevant the guy's not getting blown out If your 1B to 1A it's a matter of inches on which punches land. Not miles. If you got any scorecard that close you can beat the other guy. Look at Beterbiev vs bivol. Trying to diminish the fighter's ability because he lost a super close fight only mean's he was better on that night. Don't look any more into it than that. If a guy's getting knocked out then perhaps the power might be too much for some fighter's. That's a bit different. Super close fights history has proven often there's isn't much separating them like Beterbiev vs bivol. Being 1B to 1A doesn't diminish a fighter much when you look at it without bias.

Much more claiming wlad was old is irrelevant we know he could beat him. An option doesn't Triumph over a fact (that he beat him) trying to diminish guy's ability because of a or B or c is trying to pass an option as a fact. He proved he could probably beat him at whatever age you wanna create. I'm sure Wlad could beat him also the fight was close enough. No one is going 5-0 against the other. I seen the wlad was old argument so many times like it's supposed to diminish an actual fact. There's plenty of people who felt once Wlad would face someone of similar size he would have issue's. Wlad was 7 month's removed from his last fight it wasn't exactly Jim Jeffries coming out of retirement. Saying a prime Wlad might win sure. But Saying Fury is incapable of winning is a pure bias over an actual fact.

If anything on the opposite approach it proved Fury can hang with the best of this generation & the previous generation in Wlad.

He can certainly get a win against an old time legend. He's proved enough he can compete in any era.

You'd have to be pretty ignorant to think if they fought 5 times Joe Louis would win all five. Langford was one of the all time greats who ever lived & even he couldn't go 5-0 against other greats.
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When you dealing with any Top 20 Heavyweight they can all upset each other in enough fights. Who wins the first fight isn't necessarily the best fighter he was the best on that night...is how I see it.

Fury would probably win 50% of 6 fights against Joe Louis.
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