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Caractacus
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Re: Tyson

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which fight (after he was released from prison)
was considered his best ?
Ambling Alp II
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I always thought it was the Bruno fight.
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Re: Tyson

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Caractacus wrote: 18 Jan 2025, 17:10 which fight (after he was released from prison)
was considered his best ?
In terms of both his performance and historical significance it's easily against Bruno. The biggest events though were his bouts against Holyfield and Lewis.

His career after prison was kinda wild. He was seen as a thug and proved it in the ring with the ear bite vs Holy, trying to hold and break Botha's arms, hitting Norris after the bell, being nuts during the promotion of the Lewis fight.
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Re: Tyson

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yeah, there always seemed to be something wrong with his fights.
Maybe if the ref had not convinced Brian Nielsen to quit the fight
(during the heat of battle)
when he was on his stool, it would have been a better fight
with the rounds left.
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Re: Tyson

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Ambling Alp II wrote: 17 Jan 2025, 10:55 You don't see a lot of stuff that is right in front of you.

You want to talk numbers?

Charles got knocked down more than any heavyweight champion in history.
Usyk has 23 fights in his entire career. Tyson had that many when he was 19 years old.
Jeffries even had less fights than Usyk.

Of course, there is a lot more things to consider besides numbers.
Tyson had a lot of nice wins, none over great fighters near their best.
Yes, he lost to Douglas. That version of Douglas would have beaten almost anyone, including everyone that we have been talking about recently.
Jeffries has some good wins, but not enough to put him above Tyson. He had a lot of trouble against past their primes Corbett and Fitzsimmons.
Charles obviously has good wins and a good performance in a loss to Marciano, and losses to Layne, Valdes, Johnson.

Again, nobody is saying that Tyson is the best of all time. I have him borderline Top 10. Don't think anyone hear is putting him much higher. Jeffries and Charles aren't that far behind, but they are not Top 10.

Stop cherry picking and look at the positives and negatives of everyone, whether you like them or not.
What would be your top 20

I don't think the guys Jeffries or Charles beat were better than the guys Tyson beat just that they were arguably better in their own eras not that they beat better opponents
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Re: Mike Tyson - a big example of great marketing and hype

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Re: Tyson

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DrDuke wrote: 19 Jan 2025, 00:58
Caractacus wrote: 18 Jan 2025, 17:10 which fight (after he was released from prison)
was considered his best ?
In terms of both his performance and historical significance it's easily against Bruno. The biggest events though were his bouts against Holyfield and Lewis.

His career after prison was kinda wild. He was seen as a thug and proved it in the ring with the ear bite vs Holy, trying to hold and break Botha's arms, hitting Norris after the bell, being nuts during the promotion of the Lewis fight.
The great Mike Tyson after coming back from prison was a circus show.

The ONLY big competitive fight he had was the first fight with the great Evander Holyfield in 1996. A fight that should have happened 5 years earlier.
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You ruin threads with this collage of videos bullsh*t.
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