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Re: Round-by-Round: Ben Whittaker vs. Liam Cameron II | Sky Sports - 20 April 2025

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hughie is never a nice option
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Re: Round-by-Round: Ben Whittaker vs. Liam Cameron II | Sky Sports - 20 April 2025

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He wasn't in a position to defend himself, that's the rules.
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Re: Round-by-Round: Ben Whittaker vs. Liam Cameron II | Sky Sports - 20 April 2025

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I can guarantee everyone that there won't be an early stoppage in the Benn v Eubank fight
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Re: Round-by-Round: Ben Whittaker vs. Liam Cameron II | Sky Sports - 20 April 2025

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keithmoonhangover wrote: 20 Apr 2025, 20:39 He wasn't in a position to defend himself, that's the rules.
11 unanswered punches over a 9 second period.

His hands were up all through it and was trying to slip shots.

The first punch was the only one that got through flush
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Re: Round-by-Round: Ben Whittaker vs. Liam Cameron II | Sky Sports - 20 April 2025

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Still questions to answer for Ben.

Who does he fight next?

Does he stay at this level for a bit?

Easier touch?
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Re: Round-by-Round: Ben Whittaker vs. Liam Cameron II | Sky Sports - 20 April 2025

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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 20 Apr 2025, 20:46 Still questions to answer for Ben.

Who does he fight next?

Does he stay at this level for a bit?

Easier touch?
Bolotniks…

Then a couple of these

Partridge Cory?
Pitters?
Dan azeez?
Karol ituama?

Then

Craig Richards?
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Re: Round-by-Round: Ben Whittaker vs. Liam Cameron II | Sky Sports - 20 April 2025

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Fair play to Liam, he had no issues with stoppage, just seems happy to be there.
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Re: Round-by-Round: Ben Whittaker vs. Liam Cameron II | Sky Sports - 20 April 2025

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Anyone else notice at the beginning. They went into a clinch . Liam.gave Ben a tap on the head
Ben complained and Foster in like Flynn to warn him not long after another quick word with Liam over a minor infraction . Will say I definitely thought ref's gonna knobble him . Shalom looked pleased but realisticly . What's he gonna do with him . Step him up he.ll get clobbered . Step him down he will.not generate the money he will demand .His big pay day has the pantomime villian has just been and g one talking Eubank coming u p is just shite and I.hope no.one would buy into that
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Re: Round-by-Round: Ben Whittaker vs. Liam Cameron II | Sky Sports - 20 April 2025

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My default position is to think Foster’s fcuked up another fight by being too keen to jump in but maybe I’m not as conversant with the rules as I should be.

Could he not have given him a standing count like Fury against Usyk
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Re: Round-by-Round: Ben Whittaker vs. Liam Cameron II | Sky Sports - 20 April 2025

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There really is a few unanswered question here. Firstly I thought it too early a stoppage . It's a big fight there professionals
Give them a chance . There pro.s not amet eurs boxing for matching egg cups . There's big money and futures involved .

Then there the question why stop it .why not an 8 count

But also and I.m not trying to.be a smart ass after the fact . But WHY did.nt Liam take a knee
Do they not practice it in gyms any more. I know I used to make all my lads amateur and pros has part of there training . Spin around till.dizzy
GO.TO A KNEE and rise at 8 . Has I told them.its not if but when you take a heavy shot you need to know what to do and over the years a couple did exactly that and went on to win . It was always a funny excersice to do with the kids and pros having fun with it has well
I really would of thought Liam would of been experienced enough to take t he knee wondering do any other gyms practice it
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Re: Round-by-Round: Ben Whittaker vs. Liam Cameron II | Sky Sports - 20 April 2025

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The standing 8 count isn’t a thing in pro boxing. If you fall and the ropes hold you up (Fury vs Usyk) then the ref can count
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Re: Round-by-Round: Ben Whittaker vs. Liam Cameron II | Sky Sports - 20 April 2025

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OK standing 8 count wrong language he was still defending a mandatory 8 count could probably should of been used
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coneye wrote: 21 Apr 2025, 01:02 OK standing 8 count wrong language he was still defending a mandatory 8 count could probably should of been used
When Foster jumped in I thought it was to give a count as at one point I thought he was going down if it weren’t for the ropes. However it wasn’t to be and he ended the fight, to me, prematurely.
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Re: Round-by-Round: Ben Whittaker vs. Liam Cameron II | Sky Sports - 20 April 2025

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maverick23 wrote: 21 Apr 2025, 02:12
coneye wrote: 21 Apr 2025, 01:02 OK standing 8 count wrong language he was still defending a mandatory 8 count could probably should of been used
When Foster jumped in I thought it was to give a count as at one point I thought he was going down if it weren’t for the ropes. However it wasn’t to be and he ended the fight, to me, prematurely.
And he seems to have history for it
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Re: Round-by-Round: Ben Whittaker vs. Liam Cameron II | Sky Sports - 20 April 2025

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As a Black Country man myself I really wanted Whittaker to have a great career. But last night he beat a 34 year old Middleweight and jumped around like he'd unfied the 4 belts.

This all suggests that his confidence is really paper thin and his whole act is a mask.
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Re: Round-by-Round: Ben Whittaker vs. Liam Cameron II | Sky Sports - 20 April 2025

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Controversial wrote: 20 Apr 2025, 23:29 The standing 8 count isn’t a thing in pro boxing. If you fall and the ropes hold you up (Fury vs Usyk) then the ref can count
This. And I have never liked the standing 8 count in places they employed it in the pro game, either you're good to fight or you're not.

And that stoppage last night was early. Not saying he was going to win or even survive the barrage, but most of the follow up shots were on the gloves.

Cameron might have a different opinion on it if he hadn't just been able to pay off his house.
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Re: Round-by-Round: Ben Whittaker vs. Liam Cameron II | Sky Sports - 20 April 2025

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coneye wrote: 20 Apr 2025, 22:45 There really is a few unanswered question here.
True that :salut:
This didn't answer anything about Ben Whittaker.
I actually thought Liam was doing better early than he did in the first fight, blocking a lot.
It's going to be a while before we know any more I think.
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Re: Round-by-Round: Ben Whittaker vs. Liam Cameron II | Sky Sports - 20 April 2025

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Can only say was well and truly disappointed with it last night, just like I was Saturday night .

Infact boxing more often than not leaves me so disappointed nowadays, not sure what's changed so much over 45 years but something definitely has .

Maybe we get too much boxing to watch nowadays and I don't appreciate it when I get to see an evenly matched good fight .
The Cutler - Egginton was quite a good watch to be fair.
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Re: Round-by-Round: Ben Whittaker vs. Liam Cameron II | Sky Sports - 20 April 2025

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coneye wrote: 20 Apr 2025, 22:45 There really is a few unanswered question here. Firstly I thought it too early a stoppage . It's a big fight there professionals
Give them a chance . There pro.s not amet eurs boxing for matching egg cups . There's big money and futures involved .

Then there the question why stop it .why not an 8 count

But also and I.m not trying to.be a smart ass after the fact . But WHY did.nt Liam take a knee
Do they not practice it in gyms any more. I know I used to make all my lads amateur and pros has part of there training . Spin around till.dizzy
GO.TO A KNEE and rise at 8 . Has I told them.its not if but when you take a heavy shot you need to know what to do and over the years a couple did exactly that and went on to win . It was always a funny excersice to do with the kids and pros having fun with it has well
I really would of thought Liam would of been experienced enough to take t he knee wondering do any other gyms practice it
Cameron didn't really know what was going on so taking a knee probably didn't occur to him , it's ok in practice but when you're spaced from a big shot it's not the first thing that comes into your head. Move , grab and tuck up is the usual reaction.
One thing I thought from last night was Cameron looked a bit overwhelmed with the occasion.
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Re: Round-by-Round: Ben Whittaker vs. Liam Cameron II | Sky Sports - 20 April 2025

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At any level you should be given 10 seconds, when you have your hands up and wits about you, to try and slip shots and ride the storm.

He didn't need to take a knee because he wasn't that hurt.

Sky News reported that Whittaker has silenced his doubters one and for all........... Embarrassing

For Cameron, he knows how this game works and was happy with his payday.

It keeps him in the mix at this level

The age old British justification, you never know what the next punch could have done, better to be save than sorry, could have been a fatality...
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GB News described it as a devastating knockout

The BBC was more realistic

The 27-year-old whipped in a flush right to hurt Cameron and then loaded up with several unanswered punches before the fight was, perhaps a little prematurely, called off.
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Re: Round-by-Round: Ben Whittaker vs. Liam Cameron II | Sky Sports - 20 April 2025

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Old bones Ian wrote: 21 Apr 2025, 05:00
coneye wrote: 20 Apr 2025, 22:45 There really is a few unanswered question here. Firstly I thought it too early a stoppage . It's a big fight there professionals
Give them a chance . There pro.s not amet eurs boxing for matching egg cups . There's big money and futures involved .

Then there the question why stop it .why not an 8 count

But also and I.m not trying to.be a smart ass after the fact . But WHY did.nt Liam take a knee
Do they not practice it in gyms any more. I know I used to make all my lads amateur and pros has part of there training . Spin around till.dizzy
GO.TO A KNEE and rise at 8 . Has I told them.its not if but when you take a heavy shot you need to know what to do and over the years a couple did exactly that and went on to win . It was always a funny excersice to do with the kids and pros having fun with it has well
I really would of thought Liam would of been experienced enough to take t he knee wondering do any other gyms practice it
Cameron didn't really know what was going on so taking a knee probably didn't occur to him , it's ok in practice but when you're spaced from a big shot it's not the first thing that comes into your head. Move , grab and tuck up is the usual reaction.
One thing I thought from last night was Cameron looked a bit overwhelmed with the occasion.
did he get bopped on top of the head when Whittaker caught him? those are the punches that can properly put you out of it for a while. a lot of emotion on the forum but I think it was a correct stoppage.
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Re: Round-by-Round: Ben Whittaker vs. Liam Cameron II | Sky Sports - 20 April 2025

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I put some money on the ko. Knew he would suddenly(ahem) get the power to stop him.
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Re: Round-by-Round: Ben Whittaker vs. Liam Cameron II | Sky Sports - 20 April 2025

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coneye wrote: 21 Apr 2025, 01:02 OK standing 8 count wrong language he was still defending a mandatory 8 count could probably should of been used
They can only give a mandatory 8 count when a fighter is dropped, the only option the ref had was to let it continue or stop it.
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Re: Round-by-Round: Ben Whittaker vs. Liam Cameron II | Sky Sports - 20 April 2025

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Coco wrote: 20 Apr 2025, 20:45
keithmoonhangover wrote: 20 Apr 2025, 20:39 He wasn't in a position to defend himself, that's the rules.
11 unanswered punches over a 9 second period.

His hands were up all through it and was trying to slip shots.

The first punch was the only one that got through flush
After the last punch landed, Cameron was a sitting duck IMO. Correct stoppage for me.
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