Round-by-Round: Ben Whittaker vs. Liam Cameron II | Sky Sports - 20 April 2025
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Re: Round-by-Round: Ben Whittaker vs. Liam Cameron II | Sky Sports - 20 April 2025
Ben ran over to to stop Ben being stupid.. then Lee comes over like, it’s oryt guy. Sorry about that.
Was very childish
Re: Round-by-Round: Ben Whittaker vs. Liam Cameron II | Sky Sports - 20 April 2025
Can't see Whittaker stepping up much in his next fight, they got away with one last night so a feather fisted TBA billed most likely option.
A good looking card ruined by the referee in 2 of the fights
A good looking card ruined by the referee in 2 of the fights
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Re: Round-by-Round: Ben Whittaker vs. Liam Cameron II | Sky Sports - 20 April 2025
I watched it again this morning, hungover but more or less sober.
It wasn't on the level of the IJL Stoppage of Maccaraneli v McKenzie, but it was without doubt an early Stoppage, British stoppage, home fighter Stoppage whatever you want to call it.
Foster is an experienced ref who does this time and time again. When Cameron went back onto the ropes he could have given a count, not wave it off.
We have so many fights ruined because of the refs in the UK.
Imagine some of the all time classic fights, Bastille v Corralles, Gatti v Ward, Ward v Emma null, Bradley v Provodnikov, Kahn v MAIDANA. Would any of these happened if they were in the UK? We ha e had some great fights in the UK, but far too often we are having the same premature Stoppage discussion
It wasn't on the level of the IJL Stoppage of Maccaraneli v McKenzie, but it was without doubt an early Stoppage, British stoppage, home fighter Stoppage whatever you want to call it.
Foster is an experienced ref who does this time and time again. When Cameron went back onto the ropes he could have given a count, not wave it off.
We have so many fights ruined because of the refs in the UK.
Imagine some of the all time classic fights, Bastille v Corralles, Gatti v Ward, Ward v Emma null, Bradley v Provodnikov, Kahn v MAIDANA. Would any of these happened if they were in the UK? We ha e had some great fights in the UK, but far too often we are having the same premature Stoppage discussion
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Re: Round-by-Round: Ben Whittaker vs. Liam Cameron II | Sky Sports - 20 April 2025
This isn’t true, there isn’t a standing 8 count in pro boxing and a mandatory 8 count is only given if a fighter is dropped.forcefraser wrote: ↑21 Apr 2025, 10:37
When Cameron went back onto the ropes he could have given a count, not wave it off.
Re: Round-by-Round: Ben Whittaker vs. Liam Cameron II | Sky Sports - 20 April 2025
Unless the ref determines that the ropes held the fighter up.Controversial wrote: ↑21 Apr 2025, 10:41This isn’t true, there isn’t a standing 8 count in pro boxing and a mandatory 8 count is only given if a fighter is dropped.forcefraser wrote: ↑21 Apr 2025, 10:37
When Cameron went back onto the ropes he could have given a count, not wave it off.
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Re: Round-by-Round: Ben Whittaker vs. Liam Cameron II | Sky Sports - 20 April 2025
Yeah but that wasn’t the case in this fightJimmy2025 wrote: ↑21 Apr 2025, 10:53Unless the ref determines that the ropes held the fighter up.Controversial wrote: ↑21 Apr 2025, 10:41This isn’t true, there isn’t a standing 8 count in pro boxing and a mandatory 8 count is only given if a fighter is dropped.forcefraser wrote: ↑21 Apr 2025, 10:37
When Cameron went back onto the ropes he could have given a count, not wave it off.
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Re: Round-by-Round: Ben Whittaker vs. Liam Cameron II | Sky Sports - 20 April 2025
Looked like he sat on the middle rope at one point. That’s what prompted him to stop it in the first place.Controversial wrote: ↑21 Apr 2025, 11:01Yeah but that wasn’t the case in this fightJimmy2025 wrote: ↑21 Apr 2025, 10:53Unless the ref determines that the ropes held the fighter up.Controversial wrote: ↑21 Apr 2025, 10:41
This isn’t true, there isn’t a standing 8 count in pro boxing and a mandatory 8 count is only given if a fighter is dropped.
Re: Round-by-Round: Ben Whittaker vs. Liam Cameron II | Sky Sports - 20 April 2025
Felt premature watching it live but seeing the replays ive no issue. Whittakers behavior was pathetic and not for the first time.
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Re: Round-by-Round: Ben Whittaker vs. Liam Cameron II | Sky Sports - 20 April 2025
Yeah but he didn’t fall into the ropes and wasnt only held up by themRuthless-RKO wrote: ↑21 Apr 2025, 11:20Looked like he sat on the middle rope at one point. That’s what prompted him to stop it in the first place.
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Re: Round-by-Round: Ben Whittaker vs. Liam Cameron II | Sky Sports - 20 April 2025
Isn’t that the point? The ropes are holding you up?
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Re: Round-by-Round: Ben Whittaker vs. Liam Cameron II | Sky Sports - 20 April 2025
very taut ropes last night too, keeping everyone inside
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Re: Round-by-Round: Ben Whittaker vs. Liam Cameron II | Sky Sports - 20 April 2025
I meant he wasn’t only held up by them, typo
Re: Round-by-Round: Ben Whittaker vs. Liam Cameron II | Sky Sports - 20 April 2025
Would Clarke or Whittaker have been stopped if the roles were reversed in their fights?
Re: Round-by-Round: Ben Whittaker vs. Liam Cameron II | Sky Sports - 20 April 2025
Dubois v Lerena is a good example
Re: Round-by-Round: Ben Whittaker vs. Liam Cameron II | Sky Sports - 20 April 2025
Most believe it was stopped too early and the Poll that's up & running now will show this.
Picking up on the verdict about how good Whittaker actually is....he ain't especially good and I'd be inclined to get much more excited by anither prospect's performances....Georgio Visioli !
In comparison to Whittaker, Visioli is better skilled, stronger and much more exciting
Picking up on the verdict about how good Whittaker actually is....he ain't especially good and I'd be inclined to get much more excited by anither prospect's performances....Georgio Visioli !
In comparison to Whittaker, Visioli is better skilled, stronger and much more exciting
Re: Round-by-Round: Ben Whittaker vs. Liam Cameron II | Sky Sports - 20 April 2025
Saw him for the first time Saturday, looks a real talent.THEBUTCH wrote: ↑21 Apr 2025, 13:20 Most believe it was stopped too early and the Poll that's up & running now will show this.
Picking up on the verdict about how good Whittaker actually is....he ain't especially good and I'd be inclined to get much more excited by anither prospect's performances....Georgio Visioli !
In comparison to Whittaker, Visioli is better skilled, stronger and much more exciting![]()
Re: Round-by-Round: Ben Whittaker vs. Liam Cameron II | Sky Sports - 20 April 2025
Weird one. Looked very early, but Cameron was clearly out of it when the ref took him back to his corner and didn't complain
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Re: Round-by-Round: Ben Whittaker vs. Liam Cameron II | Sky Sports - 20 April 2025
Do yourself a favor have a gander through all his fights, get aboard the Visioli train, excellent to watchrd350lc wrote: ↑21 Apr 2025, 13:26Saw him for the first time Saturday, looks a real talent.THEBUTCH wrote: ↑21 Apr 2025, 13:20 Most believe it was stopped too early and the Poll that's up & running now will show this.
Picking up on the verdict about how good Whittaker actually is....he ain't especially good and I'd be inclined to get much more excited by anither prospect's performances....Georgio Visioli !
In comparison to Whittaker, Visioli is better skilled, stronger and much more exciting![]()
Re: Round-by-Round: Ben Whittaker vs. Liam Cameron II | Sky Sports - 20 April 2025
handsofstone wrote: ↑21 Apr 2025, 14:51Do yourself a favor have a gander through all his fights, get aboard the Visioli train, excellent to watchrd350lc wrote: ↑21 Apr 2025, 13:26Saw him for the first time Saturday, looks a real talent.THEBUTCH wrote: ↑21 Apr 2025, 13:20 Most believe it was stopped too early and the Poll that's up & running now will show this.
Picking up on the verdict about how good Whittaker actually is....he ain't especially good and I'd be inclined to get much more excited by anither prospect's performances....Georgio Visioli !
In comparison to Whittaker, Visioli is better skilled, stronger and much more exciting![]()
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Re: Round-by-Round: Ben Whittaker vs. Liam Cameron II | Sky Sports - 20 April 2025
It depends on whether you think the ropes held him up. It looked they wereControversial wrote: ↑21 Apr 2025, 10:41This isn’t true, there isn’t a standing 8 count in pro boxing and a mandatory 8 count is only given if a fighter is dropped.forcefraser wrote: ↑21 Apr 2025, 10:37
When Cameron went back onto the ropes he could have given a count, not wave it off.
Re: Round-by-Round: Ben Whittaker vs. Liam Cameron II | Sky Sports - 20 April 2025
I respectfully disagree, Fury was more out on his feet, I think Cameron had more his wits about him
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Re: Round-by-Round: Ben Whittaker vs. Liam Cameron II | Sky Sports - 20 April 2025
I don’t think they did, his knees dipped for a split second where he appeared to sit and stand up again but the ropes didn’t stop him falling down.forcefraser wrote: ↑21 Apr 2025, 15:51It depends on whether you think the ropes held him up. It looked they wereControversial wrote: ↑21 Apr 2025, 10:41This isn’t true, there isn’t a standing 8 count in pro boxing and a mandatory 8 count is only given if a fighter is dropped.forcefraser wrote: ↑21 Apr 2025, 10:37
When Cameron went back onto the ropes he could have given a count, not wave it off.
Re: Round-by-Round: Ben Whittaker vs. Liam Cameron II | Sky Sports - 20 April 2025
I.lm going to watch againControversial wrote: ↑21 Apr 2025, 07:02They can only give a mandatory 8 count when a fighter is dropped, the only option the ref had was to let it continue or stop it.
But at one point he looked to be leaning on the ropes . Which could be took for being held up . BUT surmising I.m wrong brings me to another post I put up . WHY did.nt he take a knee. Don.t they discuss it practice it in the gym . You get caught
You get hurt don't matter who you are . Fighters pride don't want to.let them go down. But it should be discuss red d in the gym on when and how to use it to your advantage . ESPECIELLY if the plan is to follow him around with your hands up making him work . And punch himself out Which was obviously the case here
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Re: Round-by-Round: Ben Whittaker vs. Liam Cameron II | Sky Sports - 20 April 2025
maybe he wasn't thinking straight because of the first punch that had him wobblyconeye wrote: ↑21 Apr 2025, 19:27I.lm going to watch againControversial wrote: ↑21 Apr 2025, 07:02They can only give a mandatory 8 count when a fighter is dropped, the only option the ref had was to let it continue or stop it.
But at one point he looked to be leaning on the ropes . Which could be took for being held up . BUT surmising I.m wrong brings me to another post I put up . WHY did.nt he take a knee. Don.t they discuss it practice it in the gym . You get caught
You get hurt don't matter who you are . Fighters pride don't want to.let them go down. But it should be discuss red d in the gym on when and how to use it to your advantage . ESPECIELLY if the plan is to follow him around with your hands up making him work . And punch himself out Which was obviously the case here
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Re: Round-by-Round: Ben Whittaker vs. Liam Cameron II | Sky Sports - 20 April 2025
I don’t know if they teach it but I guess things go out the window sometimes even if they do teach it, we see plenty of fighters jump straight up when knocked down instead of taking a longer count and clearing their heads.coneye wrote: ↑21 Apr 2025, 19:27I.lm going to watch againControversial wrote: ↑21 Apr 2025, 07:02They can only give a mandatory 8 count when a fighter is dropped, the only option the ref had was to let it continue or stop it.
But at one point he looked to be leaning on the ropes . Which could be took for being held up . BUT surmising I.m wrong brings me to another post I put up . WHY did.nt he take a knee. Don.t they discuss it practice it in the gym . You get caught
You get hurt don't matter who you are . Fighters pride don't want to.let them go down. But it should be discuss red d in the gym on when and how to use it to your advantage . ESPECIELLY if the plan is to follow him around with your hands up making him work . And punch himself out Which was obviously the case here